The Comms Room

voretaq7

8:05 PM

@Holocryptic DO NOT FORGET THE COVER SHEETS ON YOUR TPS RIPORT!

Holocryptic

@voretaq7 I don't. It's finding stuff to put behind the cover sheet that's the hard part...

voretaq7

@Holocryptic oh, just make it up like everyone else.

Holocryptic

What do you think I'm doing right now??

voretaq7

writing a random timesheet generator?

Holocryptic

that too, on top of everything else

5 hrs = Serverfault chat

voretaq7

8:08 PM

@Holocryptic 3 hrs = LOLcat meme autogenerator.

Holocryptic

Pretty much. My life is a LOL

voretaq7

@Holocryptic <karen> It's funny 'cuz it's sad! </karen>

Holocryptic

@voretaq7 I bet you cried when that show went off the air

voretaq7

@Holocryptic naw, I didn't really like it.

but I LOVED the Karen soundboard it spawned.

(mostly because I know drunk chicks with waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much money - Just like her!)

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Q: Sharing a switch with both internal and external interfaces

I am wondering if it would be safe to setup my network with a single switch running both internal and external interfaces. Currently I have a 255.255.255.240 block of IPs from the ISP and a 10.10.10.0/24 private network running from the router. The router has one WAN port and is setup with one o...

super-glass-shattering-headdesk

Aaron

I saw that Q

and I was like, well, I could write a long winded answer...... but I don't really care

voretaq7

8:13 PM

►

that's an option

but that's crossing the mean threshold even for me. That's probably like 1.1 TomToms

Aaron

so, not that I want to argue with the mods, but I really do want to get rid of crap questions, too

1

Q: Recommendation for e-mail forwarding

We currently have a provider that we use to primarily forward our e-mails to both a hosted Exchange site and to outside e-mail addresses. We have a large # of forwards set-up (maybe 500). They work fine for us but the bandwidth costs are a getting pretty expensive (approx 80GB in email a month) s...

email hosting

voretaq7

and I try to stay under .5 TomToms most of the time

Aaron

I flagged it as not constructive (shopping question) and it was rejected

voretaq7

@Aaron I voted it OT it as a shopping question.

I guess NC is probably a better reason though...

I even left a nice comment as to why it's a bad fit.

Holocryptic

8:30 PM

blah

voretaq7

Holocryptic

fuck yeah

voretaq7

@Holocryptic Your last day on helpdesk if you decide to quit I want you to answer a call and tell them your name is Mahmed Udi.

1

Q: Managing and configuring syslog-ng for very large logs

I have the logs traditionally kept in /var/log/ piped through syslog-ng. The logs can reach to the terabyte size on a daily basis. In order to make them more manageable. I would like break them out by server and app cluster. Is this the best way to do it? How do I do this with Syslog-ng that...

linux syslog syslog-ng

1TB of logs a day? Jebus.

Holocryptic

@voretaq7 Oh, I'll totally pull a third world helpdesk accent.

Shane Madden

0

Q: How enable FXP (server to server trabsfer) in windows server?

I want use server to server ftp between windows server 2008 and 2003 default ftp service. client is cuteFTP. how can i enable it?

ftp

voretaq7

8:44 PM

@ShaneMadden fxp... wasn't that an Intel ethernet device?

 fxp -- Intel EtherExpress PRO/100 Ethernet device driver

Shane Madden

@voretaq7 That there is some serious logging. One syslog server getting that much log per day is a little insane.

voretaq7

@ShaneMadden UDP FTW.

"Log messages? Never got 'em - AND YOU CAN'T PROVE OTHERWISE!"

Holocryptic

tomax7.com/comedy/numa_numa-1.swf

Shane Madden

That's the problem with UDP jokes.

...

Holocryptic

@ShaneMadden cuz no one gets them?

voretaq7

8:48 PM

@Holocryptic the best thing about UDP jokes is I don't care if anyone gets them.

Shane Madden

@Holocryptic Well, they might. There's no way to know.

Chris S

@voretaq7 Something wrong if you're generating 1TB of "logs" per day...

Shane Madden

@ChrisS -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

voretaq7

@ChrisS yes, but we need to store, sort, print, collate, decollate, staple, burst and recollate the logs in order to find out what's wrong.

Bugs:
This daemon needs a --stfu flag.

Shane Madden

I mean, if you have 20000 nodes, then sure, generate a terabyte. But if you have 20000 nodes, you probably have more than one syslog server.

voretaq7

8:50 PM

@ShaneMadden LOGS MUST BE CENTRALIZED!

AT ANY COST!

I can't imagine generating more than a gig or two of logs - even for netflow data that's a lot.

Shane Madden

@Holocryptic We're gonna need an image re: "All the logs". Get to it.

We had about 5 gigs a day hitting splunk at my last job, but that was all the spammy windows host logs etc.

voretaq7

@ShaneMadden "You're Windows machines. Nobody cares what you do!"

Holocryptic

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voretaq7

@Holocryptic I actually LOLd

Holocryptic

haha

Shane Madden

8:53 PM

@voretaq7 Vegetarian Windows machines, no doubt.

Scott Pack

@Holocryptic So, I just yesterday finally got a smart phone. Twitter is still set to sms certain stuff. That reply of @voretaq7's just caused that thing to twiddle like the world was about to end.

voretaq7

Godless Domainless Heathen Windows Admin: "We taught a server to run NT!"
NT Server: *cough* *wheeze*

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 I may or may not have a single system that generates something approaching 100GB/day.

voretaq7

@ScottPack mrr?

@ScottPack fix your buggy code :)

Scott Pack

Hmm....log all teardowns....

Holocryptic

8:56 PM

@ScottPack ha, what's weird is that I don't see your twat to me in my timestream

voretaq7

@ScottPack Log all log writes!

also what smartphone did you get? Steve Jobs Memorial Edition iPhone?

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 Be careful about writing a packet capture to the screen when logged in via ssh :)

Shane Madden

Log full captures of each outbound UDP/514 packet.

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 HTC Inspire.

voretaq7

@ScottPack I've done that. Just gotta grep out traffic to your IP :-)

Scott Pack

8:58 PM

@voretaq7 It's....a bit noisy :)

You're better off to bpf the fuck out of that.

Holocryptic

Oh, there it is. For some reason TD isn't picking it up..

Iain

G'd evenin

voretaq7

@Iain Ohai2YouGoodSir

Scott Pack

Right. Time to change those settings.

Text message notification, new email alert, and TD if it ever decides to work.

voretaq7

@ScottPack I disable texts for twitter. I've got an app to annoy me.

Iain

9:00 PM

@ScottPack how goes the ITS mod election ?

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 Until yesterday I didn't have data services.

@Iain Oh, it ended last week. Of the 8 candidates, 2 were a landslide win, and 3rd place was pretty much a dead heat.

Any one of us could have won, depending on which vote allocation algorithm was used.

Shane Madden

:2119966 2000 threshold

Holocryptic

I think you can edit at 2k

Chris S

Apparently the bar is lower than I had thought; methinks it should be higher...

Scott Pack

Oi, it's late. Have a wonderful evening all!

Chris S

9:03 PM

Time to go home; 3 cold beers waiting in the fridge.

Iain

@ScottPack :(

Holocryptic

9:15 PM

Aaron

that move cpmbackup question, I sense a long, slow, decline into stabbing

Shane Madden

@Aaron Ahh... cpanel.

voretaq7

@Aaron wait.... wut?

Aaron

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Q: Moving a 40Gb file truncates it to 5Gb

I want to move a file called cpmbackup.tar.gz from the folder /home/username to /home/username/public_html (and afterwards change the permission to 644 so it can be downloaded from another server with ssh wget URL.tar.gz). But, after I move this file to public_html, only 5 or 6 gig of the 40Gig ...

linux backup transfer

Shane Madden

no mark , i have use copy button from cpanel

Aaron

9:22 PM

I'm sorry, dave, I only have ssh and cpanel

I give up

Shane Madden

digitaladdictions & Shane Madden yes :) this problem for move use Cpanel , i with ssh mv very very easy & fast transit this file (+40Gig) TanX From All (have Good Time), ...

okay...

Iain

yay ! back over 20K

voretaq7

9:50 PM

"I have SSH and cpanel"
I have old boot and dead rat on string.

Scott Pack

@iain I'm not upset. I ran to give a broader pool, not to beat anyone else. All the candidates were great.

Iain

@ScottPack changing topics entirely - how are your quince ?

@Zoredache hi - how goes ?

Zoredache

@Iain, mostly fine. Puppet is giving me an odd headache. It appears to have a limit to the length you can use for class names... But I can't find it documented anywhere.

Iain

I don't know puppet - it's on my to learn list

Zoredache

As in it errors out when I have a class named 'openvpn::foobar-remote-site-client', but doesn't when I used 'openvpn::foobar-remote-site'...

voretaq7

10:02 PM

@Iain I'm torn between Puppet and Chef to replace radmind

Zoredache

@Iain, no worries. I might ask a question the site if I can't find a solution..

Iain

@voretaq7 jumpstart has been my friend

voretaq7

@Iain I like radmind - it's just very niche - Puppet/Chef both have bigger followings so they get cool new shit faster

Zoredache

Well I am really liking puppet other then the occasional odd quirk here and there.

Shane Madden

10:30 PM

Same, puppet's solid but their language could use a few whacks with the clue-bat. Their variable scoping is so drunken.

Zoredache

10:50 PM

that puppet thing I mentioned was an operator error. I managed to set the filesystem permissions wrong.

Scott Pack

@Iain I'll have to wait until the spring to really find out. It's already pretty much shed all of it's leaves for the winter.

If I were going to do any fertilzation, should I do that now, before winter sets in, or wait until after the winter freezes?

George Edison

11:18 PM

Anyone familiar with IIS rewrite rules? I've created one... but it isn't working.

Does the "Match URL" need to begin with a '/' or not?

George Edison

11:35 PM

Ah, nvm... figured it out.

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