Creationism vs. ☐

6:35 PM

hmmm

BeatMe

yes?

just trying to get a handle on what was going on in this room

lot of Creationism vs Evolution debate looks like

and it looks like most people in the room would consider just this side of crazy for doubting macro evolution

BeatMe

well, we didn't come to evolution yet, we started with the age of earth

or did we?

Sep 1 at 18:02, by wax eagle

@Sklivvz are there ongoing experiments to try to observe speciation? I know Darwin observed adaptation and Its pretty obvious, but is anyone trying to directly observe speciation?

sounds like it got to evolution

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Sklivvz

9:45 PM

@CRoss scholar.google.co.uk/…

10:20 PM

@Sklivvz I was just using that as an example that the conversation got to Evolution

10:56 PM

@hammar Norways GDP is higher than the US?

@hammar and didn't iceland go bankrupt or something?

why is it creationism vs evolution in a lot of arguments? they don't seem to be mutually exclusive

the differing views seem to be of the proponents, not of the theories themselves

@TylerGillies: Note it says GDP per capita, and yes that's higher in Norway than in the US. Not sure about Iceland, it might be data from before 2008.

Or just the fact that they're only 319,000 people so it's much fewer people to divide by.

@hammar got it. thnx

only 319,000 people? holy crap

i can visually picture that many people in my head

I think you might be able to do the same correlation with HDI

Human Development Index

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Oh, bug in the oneboxing? Screenshotted :)

11:13 PM

why do they average over number of people? to make it more "fair"? if one country has more money than another, that country has the most money regardless of how many people they have

Anyway, the point is that the trend is righer country = better education = accepting evolution, but the US have managed to become an exception to that.

@hammar the exception that proves the rule ;)

Because otherwise it pretty much just becomes a population contest.

well... isn't it?

;)

Well, not really. If the US had the same population, but our GDP they would be quite poor.

But a high population does not equate to high standard of education/living, just compare with India or China.

I'll agree it's not entirely fair to divide by population, since there are bulk advantages, but it's close enough.