The Ink Spot

johnp

5:37 AM

I see "Filth" instead of "Filtr" everytime I see this ad on spotify...Is it just me, or do you see it too? xD

Zach Saucier

5:59 AM

@johnp I see Filtr

it's cursive

johnp

lol i hope im not the only one. I know it's cursive. i just think the end of the F swash and the long shoulder of the r are misleading at a distance or small scale

@ZachSaucier how you doing anyway, work's going well?

PieBie

8:12 AM

Nigel Farage and the whole Brexit establishment now:

johnp

Brexit has more plot twists and side characters than a Shakespearean tragedy

Vincent

^^

hey gents

johnp

8:28 AM

morning Vincent

Vincent

hey @JohnP

Luciano

9:11 AM

morning ladies and gents

Vincent

hello mr. Edit

Luciano

:)

Vincent

Do you still get rep from your edits, @luciano?

Luciano

checked again, I get +2 per question edited

Vincent

yeah, but at a certain point, that stops

PieBie

9:26 AM

hello @johnp, @Vincent && @Luciano

Vincent

o/

johnp

howdy @PieBie

Luciano

@Vincent I suppose so, but I'm still low rep for now

@PieBie o/

Vincent

@Luciano I'm not complaining. Keep this up for a few more months and I'll have another Steward badge for reviewing them :P

PieBie

lol

Luciano

9:33 AM

:)

I'm about to get a "Strunk & White" - 2 more edits

Vincent

sighs such a politically incorrect badge name :P

Luciano

tell me about it

Vincent

11:03 AM

any iOS css wizards present?

PieBie

@Vincent maybe, depends on the issue...

Vincent

hyphenation in webkit browsers?

...in Dutch

Ok, I got a solution that works. Thanks anyway!

PieBie

okidoki, glad to be of help :p

johnp

11:47 AM

i see Mr & Mrs Eaves are on Typekit now along with lots of other Emigre fonts....yay

ale19

12:01 PM

I'm making a pie chart in illustrator...it shows the legend on the side, for the colors in the pie chart, but it won't show the actual numbers as well. Is there a way to show both the color legend, and the numbers?

Or can you only do one or the other?

Vincent

hello @ale19, welcome to the Ink Spot

ale19

Hi! Sorry, is that the right way to ask a question here?

I guess I should've introduced myself first, sorry!

Vincent

Did you check The Adobe help files and / or Google?

ale19

Yep! I found a question on this site that shows how to get numbers to appear, but it doesn't show how to display the legend as well (graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/57748/…). I have also read all of Illustrator's official documentation, although they don't have a whole lot published about their pie chart tool.

And they just talk about how to format the legend, they don't give any kind of guide for showing the actual numbers.

Vincent

I'd give it a try on the main site

ale19

12:06 PM

I already did, the question has been up for three days...

Vincent

be sure to include a screenshot of what you have, and don't forget to include that link you just gave

ah!

ale19

That's why I came in here...

Vincent

well... chat is only populated by some 12 different people regularly, and it's exceptionally slow today

If you are in need of an answers, you could try to add a bounty to the question

ale19

Ah, okay. Thanks. Guess I'll just leave the question up and hope someone finds it eventually...

I don't have enough rep to do that yet :<

I can do it on StackOverflow but not here...

Vincent

I just gave you 5 :)

ale19

12:09 PM

Hey, thanks :)

Vincent

maybe do things the other way around? Have Ai print the numbers and semi-manually add the legend later?

or is that too much of a hassle as well?

ale19

Yeah, that's kinda my workaround for now. The legend will always be the same for each group of pie charts so I have like five different legends that I can copy/paste as needed. It's still slow as hell, and the numbers don't look great, but it's better than nothing.

Also, the numbers are technically the legend (the trick is to select the "Legends In Wedges" option under "Graph Type"), and for some reason the numbers always appear in size 5, so I have to manually make them bigger as well...

Ah well, I'll figure something out

Vincent

wwell, some of the chat regulars may have an idea. Especially @joojaa

but he doesn't seem to be on

Ryan

12:38 PM

morning

Vincent

hey @Ryan had a good 4th?

Ryan

yep. And its going to be a long 5th as a result haha

Vincent

lol

grab some coffee

Ryan

still dripping. about to be done

how was your weekend?

Vincent

quite okay, actually

had my folks over and we had a nice day in the city center

drank some good beer in the sun. Always good

Ryan

12:50 PM

That's cool. Its too hot here to have a beer outside unless you're in a pool

Vincent

ah, that time of year? nineties?

Ryan

high 90s with 80% humidity

you're basically in a sauna

Vincent

oof

joojaa

I am sleeping

Vincent

so you are sleep-typing, @joojaa?

joojaa

12:55 PM

yes, its a bit hard with the kids jumping up on the bed and you guys pinging

Aaaand it does not count as a sauna untill its 60degrew celsius at minimum...

Vincent

you have done bigger feats :P

I trust it's still hawt :D

joojaa

Though i prefeer 80-90

Ryan

I was watching a little Bob Ross over the weekend. Made me want to try my hand at digital painting again

was looking for Bob Ross brushes and tips and found this amazing speed painting:

RossChallenge20140131

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joojaa

@ale19 i dont think i can do mich for the pie chart tool. But i can make a new one if you wish. Care for some postscript?

ale19

Uh...I'm not totally sure what that is. Is that like an EPS file?

Or is it an actual script?

Vincent

1:02 PM

@Ryan amazed that they don't work in layers :O

ale19

I googled, and I see things that are talking about both scripts and actual files, so I guess I'm a little confused, sorry

Ryan

@Vincent amazed in general! I want to get even a fraction of that good

joojaa

@ale19 ah see the beauty of the thing is that an eps is a script, and a file and keeps getting executed

ale19

Yeah, they used to use EPS files here, and then last year they decided to switch to Illustrator for some reason...

The thing is that I have like fifteen pie charts...so I have a script to update the data in all 15, but it won't update the legend and the numbers as well unless I do a couple of obnoxious workarounds

joojaa

@ale19 these things do not contradict each other. Ai is a good eps editor

johnp

1:10 PM

So much for getting a new wacom....got a letter from the bank today...my student overdraft is finally coming to an end. my life of capitalist excess is no more ;(

ale19

@joojaa If you have something that can make the pie look almost exactly like the image I posted, then that would be great and I would definitely appreciate it :) The EPS files we have now do not seem to be editable in AI, and they don't look anything like that pie chart...

joojaa

@ale19 link?

ale19

Working on one right now, sorry

dropbox.com/s/387j5oqrh9dpmky/alcpie1.eps?dl=0

So I'm not sure if it'd be better to use the old script and edit all the files after the fact (e.g. deleting the 3D parts, changing the color, etc.)...

Or would it be better to make one document of pie charts that look kinda how I want them to look, and then update the data with the new script, and then edit them some more?

joojaa

well ill do something quick qithoutteh 3d transform but tsht easy enough to do,

Ryan

@Vincent speaking of coffee and @Darth_Vader if you're back

If Coffee Commercials Were Honest - Honest Ads

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Vincent

1:30 PM

hehe

I honestly like how it is sarcastic and enlightening without being aggressive and abrasive

ale19

1:48 PM

@joojaa that would be great! sorry for the confusion, I really don't have much experience with this at all...

They hired a graphic design student last year to do all of these things, and now they want me to automate it...

joojaa

life is a box of berries

Vincent

...I thought chocolates. cries

Vincent

2:11 PM

Photoshop Elements? Is that cr*p still being sold?

PieBie

@Vincent that other addictive, unregulated brown stuff!

Vincent

lol

I always call them 'fuels of society' :)

Zach Saucier

2:48 PM

@joojaa I love what I'm doing at work but they don't have enough work to keep me busy. So I've been doing a fair bit of my own stuff at work, which is okay, but I would prefer to work on client stuff because that's what I really came for

Vincent

ah America is waking up @JohnB @Zach

had a good 4th, gents? :)

JohnB

hi! yes! I slept through it! :P

Vincent

lol

how so?

JohnB

two day hiking/climbing expedition on Saturday and Sunday, Monday was recovery day

I would have pictures to share but I left my camera bag at my friend's house. Ooops. But I got to put my new wide angle zoom lens to work, really happy with it

Vincent

that sounds exhausting indeed :)

remember to post some when you get it back.

Encountered any more rattlers?

JohnB

3:00 PM

I sure will

Ryan

Nice! Look forward to seeing them

JohnB

No interesting critters this time, just some chipmunks

Zach Saucier

@JohnB Very similar for me, haha. Though I watched the fireworks from a roof at the place I'm starting

Staying" on mobile

Ryan

I wish I had my camera on me this morning. Was driving home from a friends and saw a really nice landscape, maybe I'll go back over the weekend and hope it has similar lighting conditions

JohnB

it was a flood watch in my area on the 4th so any fireworks displays were cancelled, so I wasn't missing out on much

Vincent

3:02 PM

@Ryan it isn't surgically attached to your hand? :O

Ryan

@Vincent it should be :(

johnp

@Cai you have many problems with Royal Mail? Anytime I use it something goes missing

Cai

@johnp Yes. They are useless. Don't ever trust them

johnp

I didn't even realize the store had shipped with them as the due date was so soon...;(

Cai

I used to sell t-shirts and stuff and used royal mail. Things went missing all the time

and they lost my tax returns once even through i sent it recorded delivery

johnp

3:11 PM

aw that is very lousy! I wonder if I have any hope of another one being sent by the seller

i wonder if people do this all the time....lol. my classmate was sent 2 macbooks as the first was delayed via the mail xD

bizarre really

Vincent

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Q: Identify this font?

http://imgur.com/Jp8SKEz Can you help me idetify the font used in this logo? Closest I could get was "Condor Black".

fonts

'kunthcab', seriously?

PieBie

wut?

Vincent

either someone has a real bad sense of what is a good brand name or this is a troll.

@PieBie that's what I said

johnp

i love the emphasis on the special K

PieBie

apparently it's an Indian cable company

joojaa

3:16 PM

@ZachSaucier huh

Vincent

country matters.

Ryan

>:( the poll I made on Massdrop someone added another monitor to and that one is now, as I expected, in the lead

I deliberately left it off because its missing a key feature I want :(

joojaa

3:31 PM

@ale19 pastie.org/10899505

just edit the lines:

/vals [10 20 120 27 ] def
/names [(Redheads) (Blondes) (Brunettes) (Other) ] def

and see it update in illustrator when placed

Cai

Are you trying to say you like blondes @joojaa?

joojaa

yes

Cai

@johnp That's incredible! why does that stuff never happen to me?

joojaa

i like them all

Cai

lol

johnp

3:34 PM

i know, right?! the worst thing is she sent back the extra one ;( as if apple would miss it

joojaa

argh i have a indexing problem

Cai

She should have sent it to me :)

johnp

that's what I told her!

ale19

@joojaa: oh wow, that's fantastic! I had no idea EPS was an option for this but I think that'll work much better. I think all we would need to do would be to write a script to update the /vals line and the /names line....

@joojaa: How did you write this? Did you use Ghostscript or something else?

ale19

4:05 PM

I guess the only downside is that none of us here at work know much about PS/EPS, and I'm not sure I'll have time to learn and teach it to people.

Ryan

hmm was it @PieBie with Affinity Designer? Did you ever get around to trying it?

PieBie

yes it was I. And no, I haven't gotten around to it, it's deadline galore at the job atm

Ryan

4:19 PM

aww show next year I've been looking forward to as an opportunity to see San Francisco was moved and is in San Jose instead.

joojaa

@ale19 then because linked files update in illustrator once i save the canges the results update in illustrator so by paging back and forth i can see it updare

@ale19 you on windows or mac?

@ale19 an yes i worte the eps manually

on windows you can make a different extension so if you then edit the linked ifle it opens a dialog

ale19

@joojaa I'm on Windows. At the moment I have it set up so that it opens by default in AI. I also have it open in Notepad++ so I can make changes/play around with it and then reopen it in AI

joojaa

the extension of ths placed wfile dont have to be eps

if you put it as txt then it will open in whatever your default editor is

So you can have programs that embed themselves in a eps/pdf file wih different extension and therefore open in a different software but still be placeable in illustrator

ale19

@joojaa I know. I just left it as EPS because I didn't feel like changing it. I was looking for a way to change the colors of the individual pie slices, by messing around with line 38 (the loop that draws the lines of the pie, I think?) and using the 'fill' command

joojaa

and photoshop of indesign

if you want to fill and stroke then use something like

gsave
fill
grestore
stroke

ale19

4:34 PM

but the colors need to be different for each slice...wouldn't that make the whole pie the same color?

assuming you do something like gsave 1 0 0 0 fill grestore stroke

e.g. i.stack.imgur.com/BCwjV.png

joojaa

yeah im refactoring the code so that the input would look like

[
120 (humans)
300 (monkeys)
]

joojaa

7:23 PM

@ale19 updated script found here pastie.org/10899667

can now draw colors, is beter refactored so all but configs are local so you can now print more than one pie per file. (remove last drawcall to do so)

ale19

That's fantastic. I stand in awe...

joojaa

demo

ale19

We're getting towards the end of the workday in my location, but I might message you later about it, if that's okay, once I've had time to really dig into it and learn more about PostScript...

joojaa

edit the list with color definitions to change your color palette

now i have to go back and clean

ale19

It definitely looks really promising, thank you for your work!

joojaa

7:26 PM

ill leave you to design a good palette

also i think input is easier now

ale19

:) Fortunately I have several already created!

joojaa

good luck

ale19

Thanks!!

joojaa

variatin on theme change pie drawcalls to:

  %~ 0 0 moveto
  0 0 inner s e arc
  0 0 inner 20 sub e s arcn

and you get

possibilities are endless

ale19

Damn, this is really useful

I wish I had known about this sooner!

joojaa

7:43 PM

one can even do pies in pies

ale19

7:54 PM

Thanks for your help. I have to head home but I appreciate your time!

joojaa

NP

I am at home all day all summer

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