The Ink Spot

man that girl was supposed to meet up with me tonight and is again cancelling on me. I don't have time for this nonsense. I would've gone and taken photos somewhere

johnp

i was mugged at knife point where the assault happened 2 years ago...i wonder if it was the same guy...

Ryan

what? mugged when? today?

and what assault for that matter?

johnp

aw that's ****, Ryan. I'd give up on her after the second time for sure

oh no bout 2 or 3 years ago...sorry just reading a breaking news story from where i used to study

facebook.com/WaterfordNewsandStar

stuff like that wouldnt be that common there...especially among students.

is it hard to meet people where you are? socially, etc

Ryan

1:29 AM

for me it sure seems to be lol

I'm not redneck enough for here where the social things involve mudding, fishing, boating, hunting, and watching football while drinking Bud Light

johnp

haha aw. i have zero social life since i moved back home. it's mainly family and older folk that live round here

haha

'merica

btw that printshop i mentioned posted an ad for a full time designer...i hope it doesn't effect my prospects of work exp...

i dont have enough experience for the advertised role...

Ryan

Sounds like a good opportunity and could learn from it

riflepaperco.com

that place is right by me and hiring but I don't think I want to apply there

johnp

i dunno...it looks like a head designer role and that would destroy me haha. i wouldnt be familiar enough with large format printers, impositioning and all that stuff

Ryan

more interested in either marketing / ad agencies or teaching roles for right now. I don't think I'd grow there any more than I am currently except I'd be working with probably younger people which would be nice

Don't sell yourself short, you'd be amazed how little people know

Just look at the questions we get on GDSE if you need confidence booster

johnp

haha it could boost my activity on the stack!

are there any marketing firms nearby that you'd like?

Ryan

1:36 AM

Nah not really

but I think I'm going to start on a Photoshop Book, actually I think I'm going to do 2 books

Looking at Interactive Book options right now to see if I should go that route instead of traditional

johnp

that would be really cool!

i think interactive would be much better these days

you mean as a sort of app?

Ryan

not sure really. That's what I'm researching

for right now I'm going to make one Photoshop book for adults and one for kids

I think that will be a lot of fun

I've written a textbook before

johnp

yeah?

any link anywhere

Ryan

nope, not even sure the external HD I have it on will load either, I think its on the one that doesn't. I'd have to ask the girl I created it with if she still has it somewhere

we did it while teaching overseas because there were no good computer studies textbooks in the country we were stationed

johnp

lol so nonchallant - "oh yeah just a textbook I wrote, probably on a corrupted HD somewhere, I dunno"

that's very cool

Ryan

1:50 AM

pretty much lol

johnp

dedication!

BESW

Heh. I have almost the exact same thing.

johnp

hey @BESW

Ryan

South Pacific, destroyer of harddrives carrying educational materials! @BESW

BESW

Well, for me it was work for a client and the project lapsed into development hell after the funding that was paying me ran out.

So I've got all the material for almost-a-book on a half-dead hard drive somewhere, and the files have passed out of the client's hands into various committees which discovered he didn't have formal model releases for most of the photos (this is a case where I'm quite happy to say "I told you so").

I've done a number of design-and-layout jobs for books and magazines, but on that particular project I was involved in the copy and content as well.

Ryan

1:55 AM

Oh for our textbook we wrote, illustrated, edited, everything. We made lesson plans and hand outs to go with it too

johnp

yikes, was it anything that could be salvaged or expanded upon for yourself or a lost project?

BESW

@johnp ...I learned a lot and made some good connections.

Ryan

Now my external is an SSD I ended up building myself. I know I should go NAS at some point but I don't want to do that just yet

johnp

write the theme tune, sing the theme tune? @Ryan :P (Little Britain quote)

BESW

@johnp Makes me think of Big Wolf On Campus.

johnp

1:57 AM

that's pretty cool, i would so try and find it! employers love that self initiated work

lol thought that was John Travolta epguides.com/BigWolfonCampus/cast.jpg

Ryan

my dad went to high school with John Travolta lol

johnp

haha

what was he like in school

Ryan

I don't know

I went to elementary school with Mandy Moore but couldn't tell you a thing about her either

oh @johnp not sure if you caught this since you weren't on at the time but this is pretty cool sites.google.com/site/marclevoylectures

the applets might even help you on your glass thing

BESW

@johnp The guy in the bottom left corner is the primary co-star, and he also wrote and performed the show's theme song.

johnp

i like his hair do

oh yeah thanks. i bookmarked it earlier

a lot of courses are being posted online lately though i didnt see many design related ones last time i checked

i think MIT uploaded a lot of material

Ryan

2:11 AM

well I started outlining the adult potatochop book I'm going to write. Haven't started on the kids one yet

johnp

lol should make potatochop a tag

that was mean O:/

that's what they said about the powersharing government in Northern Ireland when it started lol

Ryan

Irish Potatochop

johnp

yes

Ryan

Does it go with Irish Whiskey?

johnp

it does if you potatochop out the white background

in FAB colour mode

lol you should just make silly puns for everything in the book

say it helps mnemonics

Ryan

2:21 AM

yo instagram.com/p/BKEymqOAiqa/?taken-by=make_it_rayna why so yellow!?

white balance aint that hard, i can do it from a jpg

johnp

lol was thinking maybe it was a bad callibration but nah

strangely a poster i sent to print looked exactly as my monitor proof, though it was never setup

Ryan

like do they think it looks better yellow? does she think it looks better yellow?

I really don't know. I can't imagine anyone would but maybe I'm wrong :\

johnp

it's like when they make McDonalds burger buns extra yellow for that happy effect

Ryan

I need to get a photo studio. I could be killing it. Makes me sad that people get to have studios with no idea what they're doing

johnp

if i had money (even a little) id plan a huge f-off shoot in a rented studio. they usually provide all equipment for a small fee

make a few days of it, put a kickass portfolio together and try and make a job out of it

Ryan

2:29 AM

yeah there's a few studio rentals around here that have some equipment as well

johnp

if you planned two days really well with a couple of models you could really get a lot out of it

it's something id love to do

Ryan

yeah maybe. I tried the real Sony 90mm Macro in a store the other day and it didn't even excite me a little. Maybe I'll ask to try it again next time and take it out front of the shop for a minute

I think I just prefer using older metal lenses

johnp

is there much to be gained from modern lenses in macro anyway?

no real need for any fancy focusing,etc

Ryan

main thing I thought might be nice is some older Macro lenses extend out to focus where this one doesn't and reviews say its razor sharp

So I had been thinking if I see it for under $800 I'd buy it to use for a few months and then resell it but now I don't think its worth it

I only mention this because using a studio with all that fancy equipment is so far beyond me. I wouldn't know what to do with it. I haven't used anything other than built-in flashes before. I know conceptually how to use them and could probably still pull off better than most but ya I wouldn't rent

johnp

it's not that tricky tbh. ive only used the strobes in the photo studio in uni but there's two dials a flash sync for your hot shoe, they set the rest of the strobes off, straight forward really

in fact i would argue it's easier to work with than flashguns

Ryan

2:44 AM

okay but Sony doesn't use the same type of Hot Shoe as Canon and Nikon if I understand correctly

johnp

is it something like a pc cable or some such; i think all it means is using a different lead

Ryan

I have no idea it all seems complicated to me

johnp

you can get some nice deals on ebay for some strobes if you just wanted to familiarize yourself with em

Ryan

and then realize none of my lenses have any electronic connection to the camera either so its all manual there too

nah its not a priority right now. I'm more interested in getting filters and a new laptop. Was hoping mac would announce laptop today

johnp

your lenses dont have anything to do with it as far as i know...it's just the shutter that sets off the cable

i wonder if CC will move to Chrome OS

aside from the privacy concerns windows 10 seems pretty fine to me

the only thing is - they're going to start charging subscription or something for the enterprise versions

nextshark.com/sarcasm-now-banned-north-korea

the back story to that must be hilarious^

Ryan

2:54 AM

"Oh great one you're so great!"

"That's it! I can't tell if this person is being sarcastic or not! I've had it! No more sarcasm!"

johnp

lol id love it was a cleaner or something

Family Guy - Consuela's best moments

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Ryan

No, superman no home.

Consuela is one of my celebrity crushes lol

johnp

my favourite is the resurrection of jesus one

in the tomb lol

should be a question close reason

"No.....no"

Ryan

I recently learned we can get notifications of certain topics in chat. I want to make a meta on it but waiting until the other mods have more time

johnp

as a mesg post or a news feed type alert

Ryan

3:07 AM

we can pick sites and exact tags we want to show up in our chat. From what I understand we can even specify to only show questions with bounties from a specific exchange and tag

johnp

ah righty

Ryan

I want to make a meta post allowing people to name what they'd like to appear and if anything gets probably 4 votes or something we'll implement it

johnp

that'd be a nice idea for some of the interesting qs

i was thinking of a question earlier but it's very vague...not sure it would work though i have nack for narrowing a question's focus for SE lol

something like how can i use wit to make a design/illustration more appealling/effective

Ryan

I think after my last meta rant people have been much less inclined to close vote so you should be good lol

johnp

in semiotics i think one word is synecdoche

it's like a type of substitution of a word to mean something else or for comparison...applies to images too

i hope so lol

still, answers are hard to get. i may have to bounty the glass q

Ryan

3:16 AM

ask and ye shall receive

Featured Questions on Graphic Design

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Q: Prototype Visualization: How can I learn to render glass convincingly?

Rendering design prototypes for many materials can become easy once you learn to predict how the material will behave in given lighting conditions. However highly reflective and transparent materials are much harder to predict – glass, in particular. That said, I notice many marker visuals for p...

johnp

aw you're too kind ^^ thanks for that

Ryan

sure thing. Bounties is what I do

johnp

the bountyhunter

I think I'll try to write up that wit question tomorrow. I know there's a whole book on it but I have splurged on materials too much recently...ever read A Smile in the Mind?

title seems to sum it up really

Ryan

nope

johnp

3:25 AM

i may torment the local library for book loans again

Ryan

ya I've given out way more rep than anyone as bounty

looks like its me then Scott then Vincent then JohnB

when I first became a mod I was asked to stop giving away rep until I at least crossed the 10,000 mark

johnp

haha philanthropy

it would be cool if there was a store for rep on the site

joojaa

10:09 AM

I don't really understand why anybody in their sane mind would upgrade to illustrator CC

Cai

@joojaa the only reason... everyone else has and you start getting files sent to you that you cant open

happening to me more and more

joojaa

@Cai well ok ho the hell do I make the line and ellipse tool NOT show the object selection. I mean drawing lines is a bit annoying if you always have to draw the line from opposing end back

Cai

10:25 AM

@joojaa I have no idea what you're talking about... did they break the line and ellipse tool in CC or something?

joojaa

well yes after you draw a segment or circle it put this Powerpoint type object handles on last drawn element. But off course that means i can not draw a line form the ned of my line or it tries to move that line. Now this breaks my workflow.

Cai

Ah I see... good job Adobe

Think I'll stick with CS6 :)

Does "Hide Edges" help? Guess that's probably still going to be annoying but maybe slightly less

joojaa

@Cai well I thought that breaking the line tool was impossible but apparently not

joojaa

3:54 PM

:P

Ryan

:)

JohnB

@joojaa only workaround I could come up with is to do Object > Shape > Expand Shape on the line segment, it'll remove the PowerPoint-like handles

joojaa

making the final raspberry pi for tomorrows pure data exercise

@JohnB yeah that works but is not really practical as i draw about 30-40 lines per minute

JohnB

binding a keyboard shortcut shouldn't slow you down too much

joojaa

yes but theres a big difference in drawing 30 lines per minute vs 15 lines its the difference between will do and can not be bothered

Remember i use illustrator for its mouse feel with snap enabled so I'm already on net negative use

JohnB

4:01 PM

I'm not defending the change but I don't see how adding a keystroke halves your productivity

joojaa

i don't actually pause between linedraws

to press a key needs me to stop moving mouse for the time that i press the button

JohnB

okey dokey

Ryan

What are you trying to do in the most simple terms Joojaa? Or JohnB if you know

JohnB

just curious, why do they need to be individual lines?

Ryan

I'm not sure I understand correctly but if I do I'm pretty sure there's a setting for it

joojaa

4:03 PM

because I'm doing final rendering and connecting corners

@Ryan according to adobe forums there is not

Ryan

what are you trying to do in the most simple terms?

joojaa

Using pen would only start deleting pieces magically

disable the live object handles for line tool objects

in fact i would like to disable entire feature I don't actually need handles for scale and rotation

I mean handles for something complex like a elbow in a text label would be fine

Ryan

yeah this is why you ask me not adobe :P

click on the icon next to Shape

that's what you were after right?

joojaa

wait i have to change computer

I'm currently on Raspberry pi

JohnB

wait why does the Pen tool delete things?

joojaa

4:14 PM

@Ryan can't find such icon

@JohnB because if you urn in on yourself clicking on a existing point will turn to delete

im not blocking shapes I'm really drawing boundaries so i have t junctions and so on.

ill make a video once i get home

JohnB

@joojaa I think you can hold shift to not delete the point on the line you're editing

Ryan

joojaa

Yeah but line tool is less work

Ryan

@joojaa that is bad

that is what you want I believe

click to switch

joojaa

Hmm maybe but i haventy got the newest CC apparently i don't see that icon anywhere

Ryan

4:20 PM

2015.3?

joojaa

dunno i left that computer and I'm packing for home

My main concern is what use is there to have 3 handles for a line?

Ryan

joojaa

i mean if your going to be live atlas let me type dimensions on screen

Ryan

if not you might just need to make sure its ticked off on that menu

joojaa

oh ok

But still totally wasteful feature

if i wanted to draw in powerpoint i would

But I'm using illustrator for a reason

but yeah thank for your help I'm sure that is it

JohnB

4:24 PM

oooh nice Ryan, you're right

I didn't know about that either

joojaa

Aand this is why I asked here

Ryan

I'm not just a pretty face for Photoshop questions ;)

ebay.com/itm/391540196888

I want to buy that so badly

joojaa

Yes you are... cute as hell.

Ryan

here have a flower Joojaa, it matches your new gravatar

meanwhile my sunflowers have now been viewed 17,600 times on Unsplash and downloaded 93 times in less than 48 hours

definitely need to start selling something, maybe my soul.

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

7:12 PM

sup

Ryan

heyo

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

it feels like a wednesday but Im glad its friday.. taking a day off has thrown my week off

johnp

hey room. nice pic @Ryan

it looks like it's glowing

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

7:27 PM

this room has been wild lately..

johnp

uncontrollably wild @DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ ? :P

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

lol

johnp

I post a lot of crap, I admit

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

ha I have the record for being the biggest mouth here, you could say, I scared everyone

Ryan

Joojaa's new job, you've been busy, Vincents away, and think I scared everyone else off

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

7:30 PM

vincent on vacation

Ive been reading, waiting for my desk that I should have gotten last month, then I'll really be busy, lol

Ryan

ive been real busy actually too and itll be worse before better. Next week Ill be away so nobody will be here to keep JohnP company

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

I will try

johnp

haha aw no

my hermit lifestyle has been laid bare

I suppose I should try leaving the house more, talk to humans and stuff

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

you could also go on an edit spree.. it would raise you rep

johnp

I have a few questions in mind I may post...they're broad so I would have to narrow the scope like with that prototyping one

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

7:38 PM

didnt mean ask a question. You're under 2k rep so if you make an edit to improve a question or answer it is a +2 if it gets approved

holy cow, that is a lot of rep for a question: stackoverflow.com/questions/9329446/…

johnp

i may give it a go again. I'm a little anxious about editing as an OP told me off in the past for doing so

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

@johnp who and where?

johnp

oh I can't remember, sorry. It was a while ago. To be fair some posters aren't very clear at all in what they're asking

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

@johnp you dont say, lol

johnp

haha biggest understatement of the century

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

7:52 PM

anyone else watching mr robot

johnp

nay, last thing I watched was the Returned, the french version

Ryan

no idea what Mr Robot is

johnp

11:53 PM

Pug vs Rubber Chicken

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