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12:00 PM
you can really get to know someone's dark side with those games
complain about luck?
 
mostly. I do think Settlers is too much of a luck-based mission
 
yeah
pretends to be strategy, but... meh
 
'd rather play something that is swingy in another way
that's why I like Small World a lot. Just last week, I played my SO, who at the end of one turn, occupied all of the map save three spaces. Yet, I won that game.
 
I need to play it
 
It's great, easily explained and genuinely funny
some of the combinations are zany. Flying Skeletons or Peace-Loving Ghouls can make my day
 
12:06 PM
awwww peace-loving ghouls :)
flying skeletons sound cool
of course said skeleton would need some dry muscle to hold itself together
 
hush
 
or ropes, or silvertape
 
some suspension of disbelief, okay? :)
lol @ silvertape
 
hah
suspension of disbelief, awesome
 
what are you working on atm?
 
12:12 PM
a software dev company, desktop apps for hospitals
but I 'originally' come from web
then got into interfaces, and ended up working for a microsoft partner - for now.
 
uh? but you don't code, I suppose?
 
not code-code, but most things are do are in WPF/XAML
the CSS of windows apps
 
ah, ok
large team?
 
only 1 designer, me
and about... 10 devs
but lots of salespeople, support... hospitals are not easy to deal with
everything needs to be spotless, there is medical risk associated
 
ack, that's quite the unfair disadvantage you have there, up against 10 devs
I understand. High bar.
 
12:16 PM
oh, they are under my command (no, not really)
 
are they... dev-devs or are they understanding devs?
 
very understanding, they trust me, the fools
I revamped a very VERY ugly-looking product
and it got great feedback
it wasn't a difficult job, the program had more than 10 years
do you do any programming?
 
lol
 
@Bakabaka really nice to see you in the running
 
not coding-coding as you call it. Mostly html, css and php
@RandomO'Reilly thanks, and hi there
to get my WordPress sites running
php looks really great to learn, I'm itching to create my own plugins. Just... the time.
 
12:22 PM
yeah... what about javascript or jQuery?
WP is a struggle
hi Bente :)
 
hi there - weird thing? it says I have edited a post 16 min ago, I was not even in the door 16 min ago
 
yeah, one of those is next. I find myself unable to do things I want without either, so I'll guess I'll have to
uh? Is your password secure?
 
(forget it.. but weird; second force refresh sorted it)
 
@RandomO'Reilly it's the other Bente, the one that logs in when you are sleeping. Seriously, it happened again today
 
lol
not worried about it
 
12:24 PM
you avatar here became active. It's like your phone/computer is sending "I'm alive" signals everywhere
 
but I am alive..
:D
hm, i will have to look into it
 
awake* :)
 
Maybe it's boblet. Acting from beyond the nickname grave
 
ohhhh nice theory
 
lol
nice
i think it might have something to do with my new OS
and some oddities in reminders
 
12:27 PM
I go for the boblet thing
must be that
 
hehehe
good thing I am not prone to paranoia
 
yet*
ah, got to show you the books!
 
ooh
right
 
eeh
12
that Line one looks amazing
worth putting on my amazon wishlist?
 
12:31 PM
yes
def
 
@Bakabaka long story, but someone gave me USD500 to spend on amazon
 
the cover design is so beautiful too, I just like to stare at it
 
yes! that was my initial thought too
 
oh wow
indeed
those are... gorgeous.
 
wwwwwaaaa! GBP300!!
 
12:33 PM
please take pics when you get them, please
what the...
 
first one reminds me a lot of old Dutch banknotes
 
woa. I got them from the library
 
hm.
usD200
 
@RandomO'Reilly and have you spent them already?
 
@Bakabaka it is wonderful!
the $500, yes
take a look here, and my geekness (in certain directions) will be established...
 
12:35 PM
I can only see 1 item there
I think it got cleared, or do I need to click somewhere?
 
christ
which one can you see?
 
I thought I was a freak, and then I met Bente
a history of GD
 
hm
hahaha
 
yeah, I only see that one as well
but I guess your preference goes to expensive, good-looking, well-made coffe-table books?
 
stupid; it is not longer on the wishlist - i see them though - because they have been bought
hahaha
no, not really
 
12:37 PM
...on design
 
well, there is a shitload on data visualisation, data handling, big data, visual language, graphic history,
an not the least: visual complexity
i am a bookbinder by first education; i rarely by coffee table books, they hurt far more than paperbacks
 
they... hurt?
 
can I quickly show you something for critique?
 
12:42 PM
be blunt
 
first issue: alignment
should war be smaller, more to the right?
the D needs to go
 
think maybe i would have tried more to the right
but then, i like asymmetry
 
art bigger?
well, they could be assymetric, top going up, middle straigt, down going down
 
i like the squigglyness of it, and the fact that it is not "deeply constructed"
 
12:44 PM
ah nice
 
How will it be displayed? Is the rotation part of it or was the paper a little crooked when you took the photo?
 
i would have cut off - or altered - the swoosh on the N in design
 
wait, Ii'll take a real pic
 
there's imbalance indeed, and it bugs me a little that the swashes on both the terminal N and R are mostly indentical
 
originally the t also went all the way to the right
it bothers me too now
 
12:47 PM
but I do like it :D
 
@Ryan no idea, i'm just playing with it
(it's for my blog artdesignwar.com)
(so it will probably be floating on the left)
so h has to go, redo D and check alignment
 
ah, gotta excuse myself... bike is ready
 
 
see y
'all later!
 
see ya!
 
12:52 PM
this is what bothers me. Those green ones should be closer to the same angle IMO
 
ahh I see I see
 
the blue isn't as bad except maybe the s in design could be a little shorter or the i and g a bit bigger
I like the lettering though, they're really nice.
 
i am not bothered about baseline
 
Calligraphy Quill?
 
no, sharpie
 
12:56 PM
personally, i like squiggleiness, contrast, juxtaposition
 
new version soon
 
the swoosh on the n in design is for me a little too much on the nose, thought the shape is very good. There is something a bit more alive about that, than the swoosh on the D. this because of the slight bend on the N. be good to have something like that on the D. calligraphy-ish
i have no problem with wobbly baselines; i think it is a requirement for something like this, it is an art form to get words to fit each other. war a little to the right, as it gets a little contrived fitting the W
 
uploading!
 
but i think it is class anyway. there is a "makers mark" there, it is hand made, and no meaning in making it too streamlined. a digital font could do that.
 
(it looks a little better live)
alignment all off again
I see it once I take the pic, but not before
 
1:02 PM
hehe
 
design is supposed to be flat, dammit
what do you think of this D?
 
i see no reason why the first loop on the W could not go over the bottom of the D, and likewise with r and g
 
ahh nice yes
 
personally, the D is too close to a standard calligraphy font
that it is leaning left i think is good, you could make the D lean left and the G lean right - gives "drama" and almost perspective
disclaimer: you do not need to take me seriously
 
i think its time for my coffee to be ready! thats what I think!
 
1:04 PM
:D
 
haha
modifying as we talk
 
hehe
Miss Random; the queen of SquiggleLand :D
 
haha
 
...or, of WobblyLand...
 
new version coming up
(last one and I set you free)
not as flashy, but more balanced I think
 
1:09 PM
ah, nice
 
thing in the n should be smaller, right?
 
I for one like that more as far as the baseline angles go. The W loop is really big now though
like my brain first processes it as an L before realizing its a W
 
ahh I see
 
(you could experiment by doing a loop on the N, and drive it down through the g, like the energy in the g), and I would not mind wobblyness in baselines
:D
 
1:12 PM
ahhaah
 
guys, this turning into a wiki-post? getting more useful by the hour graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/30083/…
 
haha yes
ok, last one, inked
enough for tonight, will continue tomorrow, but thanks for the critique, all excellent
(I like the deformed top r in this one, I need to re-do the "war")
 
that's way more balanced, @Yisela
 
there's too much space between design and war, and the a and r in war are awwwwful
but I can hardly keep my eyes open so I'll call it a day
 
g'nite
 
1:23 PM
nite!! thanks again!!
 
1:37 PM
aaaaarrrrrgh - the oatmeal is right, printers are sent from hell to drive us mad
 
printers and copiers are the bane of existence
 
2:21 PM
@Yisela The Pvar? :-) I'd say the loop seems to be there based on the concept that the A, D, and W overlap. It looks nice but I'd question if the overlapping is strictly necessary...and if it is, whether the loop on the W should be more pronounced than the one on the A.
As Art overaps on the D only, you could nudge war so it doesn't overlap the g, raise it a bit, weaken the loop and make it counterbalance Art a bit by being more to the left
Another possibility would be to drop the W overlap with the D and only overlap the G, then make the W kind of tail to the left as a clockwise analog to the Art's T loop curling counter-clockwise, and let the War's r end more succinctly
 
2:38 PM
Hack job to sort of show that direction:
(One could also tweak it around so it doesn't overlap at all of course, but presumably the style is supposed to convey some organic-ness by having some...)
I guess that's still curling counter-clockwise.
 

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