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12:16 PM
@joojaa going all teacher? Oh, that's your job, dang it.
 
12:59 PM
one more day!
 
hey Matt
 
what's new boss?
 
new? my shoes :P
how're you?
 
good.. really busy lately. some reason everyone is calling me this month for work..
 
@Matt boohoo I've got too much business :P
 
1:11 PM
well hello to you too =P
I come back on last night and its like anarchy on the arrow question ;)
no big deal but glad the OP made an edit and it was re-opened back up, now if we can get them all to be that way
 
When I'm President, I'm regulating Password interfaces. Companies by law must, upon a failed login attempt, state what their initial password requirements/restrictions are.
Trying to login to pay my cable bill, can't.
 
time warner?
 
Bleakhouse
 
@Ryan hey! I try not to complain about the lack of sleep, ok? :P
 
just got a request to submit resume again to someone on LinkedIn. Instead of my usual rejection I'm actually asking them for a job description and to know where they have offices.
 
1:45 PM
be careful with those.. some shady peeps
@Vincent sometimes we just got vent!
is there a way in a google doc to make anchors so I can link the page externally?
 
@Matt I think there is, I kinda remember seeing it being done
 
ya just found it..
is it wrong to lmgtfy another person?
 
2:02 PM
depends on the person :)
 
2:13 PM
Hey, I'm helping someone on a simple wordpress site and the theme we chose hides the subheader on mobile devices. Any tips for finding where it would be? I'm not seeing it as <h2> or as .site-description in any of the @media stuff
 
Since I now see that this question I answered is off topic, is it appropriate to delete my answer to the question I thought he was originally asking?
nothing changed about the question, his comments just give the question a different meaning
 
@Ryan can you check the site html and see whether it has inline styling or anything?
 
yeah I can see everything
 
can't say based on that description, Ryan
use inspector to find what's hiding it
 
^^
 
2:16 PM
Trying. What should I click in Inspector?
 
the menu before it goes away on mobile
whatever the most parent element for that area is
 
check the html for the subheader, and then check all the rules that apply to it
 
@Matt Any opinions on my situation asked about above?
 
@Vincent that was the first thing I did
 
I would say yes.. because I would imagine a Mod will close it, as the the OP just stated in the comment section:
I'm looking for ideas/algorithms/papers. Implementation is not an issue. – paul 6 hours ago
 
2:21 PM
kk, I want my upvote on the question back :P
 
cant help you there
 
I know
 
what else do you know =P
 
@Vincent it's weird I found .site-description { display: none; } but its not inside an @media and when I remove it then it stays visible if I make window smaller but still not showing on mobile
 
code?
 
2:23 PM
@Matt me? huh?
 
@Ryan maybe it's also set to height: 0; ?
 
nope don't think so at least
 
or... it could be hidden by inline styling added with js?
 
how would I check that?
 
that, good sir, is a good question
 
2:25 PM
@Ryan search the JS files
is the class applied on larger pages or just smaller ones?
 
uh
if I click on one of the posts it doesn't show the site-description but viewing the source I can still see it. So I guess its there but something's hiding it again
 
I can get on teamviewer with you or something if necessary
 
@Zach during class? :P
 
@Vincent yes :P
@Ryan What disappears?
 
"Fitness, health, nutrition and vanity."
 
2:31 PM
so it's hidden by default
they're using a media query to unhide it for larger screens
 
for me it, does disappear because of a display: none in line 1282
 
@media screen and (min-width: 850px)
.home .site-description { display:block; etc... }
 
ah, I see
line 2136
 
of the generated style sheet, not necessarily where it is in a file depending on if there is preprocessing or not
 
yeah I found that but when I get rid of the "display:none;" on 1285 it doesn't fix it
 
2:32 PM
yea, that is one of the (few imho) pita's with generating stylesheets
and then a cat walked in
hi, @Scott
 
If your'e shooting a movie worth thousands or hundreds of thousands, or millions of dollars... is it really so hard to get the cast together for a photoshoot? Really that intern with Photoshop will do a LOUSY job of pasting them all into the same image....
I laughed so hard.
 
@Vincent not a big deal if you do it right though. My stylesheets are formatted to find things easily
 
Hi @Vincent
 
@Scott I think I could do that :D
 
@Scott ugh. quite.
 
2:35 PM
Apparently Maggie Grace has an arm growing out of her neck@
 
@ZachSaucier could it have something to do with .hide-for-mobile on 1909?
 
@ZachSaucier I try to keep mine tidy as well
 
and the dog.. the dog cracks me up!
 
@Ryan I don't think so. It should just be line 1285 (of the rendered stylesheet I'm looking at)
only things showing up on the inspector are applied
 
@ZachSaucier so if I change that to display:block; it should work?
 
2:37 PM
or remove it
using inspector it shows it for mobile if I remove it, should be the same
 
anyway.. I thought that was funny and had to share it. Back later :)
 
make sure it actually changed using inspector
my guess is the cache didn't refresh
 
just refreshed a few more times and it didnt
did it*
 
but that's what I did last night, and it worked on desktop but not phone unless phone needed to refresh more too
 
2:39 PM
caching sucks sometimes
you can force a reload by adding a ? at the end of a file name after change it
 
yep, damn so got it right the first time and just needed to keep mashing refresh
 
498
Q: What is an elegant way to force browsers to reload cached CSS/JS files?

KipI have noticed that some browsers (in particular, Firefox and Opera) are very zealous in using cached copies of .css and .js files, even between browser sessions. This leads to a problem when you update one of these files but the user's browser keeps on using the cached copy. The question is: w...

particularly the third and fifth answer
 
2:52 PM
I think we need a meme battle today...
 
Did you see the Meme Door??
Forget where it was, think Germany. It was a few weeks ago now
 
@Matt methinks we have a dual-account poster
I'll flag
 
question?
 
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Q: Why are the edges on these images so different?

Emily SkipperI am currently making some web images and am getting very riggid lines. Exhisting images on the website seem to differ (these images are pre me so I do not know how they created them so differently). Does anybody know why they are so different? The image on the left has very smooth edges, whils...

Emily Skipper (OP) vs. Skipper_111 ('answer'er)
 
yes it is
 
3:02 PM
then do your mod mojo, I'd say :)
 
looking for the contact solution now
not really much reason to mod it, just going to tell the OP to contact SE to have her accounts merged
 
works for me :)
 
needs more tags
 
eh. your [contact] link doesn't seem to work
 
ya working on it, updating a meta post
 
3:08 PM
thumbs up
 
morning : )
 
@cockypup morning
 
@Ryan hehe, saw that one, was hilarious
 
@Vincent Did you see the GenCon news?
 
I added it to snippets on meta
 
3:15 PM
@Ryan Ha! Hilarious.
 
@Ryan aye :)
 
blasted.. I lost that question, vincent!
 
@Matt the one with the double account?
 
ya found it
 
@Matt seems that they even have a chance getting out of their contract with the location, that would run up to 2020
 
3:17 PM
Hi [user], welcome to GDSE! It would appear you have accidentally created multiple accounts unfortunately Stack Exchange only allows one account per user on a site. Please go to our Help section and contact SE to have this issue fixed.
 
ah, great!
ah ok
I'm dumb
 
I know we are supposed to try and leave a comment on questions but sometimes I really want to comment how lazy they are..
 
@Matt hydra-users
 
if thats the case I drop my thor hammer
 
haha
 
3:22 PM
'help vampires'
161
Q: The Help Vampire problem

Barry KellyWhat is Stack Overflow's long-term solution for the Help Vampire problem? Quote from article follows: Identifying Help Vampires can be tricky, because they look like any ordinary person (or Internet user, whichever is lesser). But by closely observing an individual's behavior using this hand...

 
Im still unsure what our consensus is on entry level questions.. Ive just been closing them as too broad till we decide what else to do.
 
i meant the ones with more than one account, hydra users with more than one head. my mind image of them is very disturbing haha
 
I tried going into the SO Android Developer chatroom and they denied me for fear of being a help vampire. I hate SO so much
 
why?
 
@Ryan just need to explain your problems with more detail including what you tried
it also helps to actually chat some before you drop a question bomb, generally speaking
 
3:25 PM
@ZachSaucier nope. Its a blocked room I never said a single word to them
 
@cockypup cut off one fang...
 
@cockypup whats new!
 
@Matt enrolled on a class of ink drawing. man, traditional media is tough. the lack of ctr-alt-del kills me.
 
@cockypup I... suppose you mean Cmd-Z?
 
3:33 PM
@Vincent true! I guess some ink got into my brain
 
lol
 
it did make it to my face
at least with pencil, there is the trusty eraser. with ink, none, your horribly misjudged attempts of limbs are there perpetrated for the model to have nightmares forever
maybe digital arts breeds insecurity, because you can always go back
 
uh... don't you start out with pencil, only to ink when you're happy with the sketch?
digital art breeds inhuman perfectionism
 
nope, the teacher encourages ONLY ink
 
:O
 
3:38 PM
she keeps saying: "ink is expressive, let it flow, use your whole arm"... well, the result is QUITE expresive
 
I can't move my arm :(
 
how so?
 
I'm with you, I am used to the micro movements of the mouse. have to say, it is quite interesting and humbling to draw with ink. it is like a reality check: yup, this is what you can draw, don't fool yourself
 
No, I just mean my arm is sore from working out. Hurts to move at the moment.
 
ah haha
 
3:55 PM
I actually went and read about classic Chinese ink drawing, just to feel better, and the article was explaining that it is not a realistic drawing form of art, but a symbolic one, which makes a lot of sense
 
I never tried actual drawing with ink beyond handlettering
I do think that drawing realistically is unrealistically hard
handlettering, otoh, is way easier in my book
 
I agree. I love the challenge though
the subjects were: a gnarly piece of wood, a gorgeous portable TV from the 80's, a skull and a model
the ink worked great with the wood, because it is actually a flowing shape
the TV was interesting, but I would not finish it. I learn't I am slow. It felt like the wrong media for something so tech, which was cool
the skull ended up being patchy, I started missing ctrl-z
the model, I finished and hid in my bag immediately haha
he did not need to see that and have scars forever
 
4:13 PM
hehe
sounds like a nice assignemnt
 
yes, and she is so encouraging!
I am used to knuckle hitting teachers, so it was refreshing : )
I also get to get away from my office, which is great for me and for my bf. we both work from home so we start developing a serious case of cabin fever with folie a deux if we are not careful
 
ah, you work from home? I couldn't do that anymore
especially since we got our cats--those tend to eat up a lot of attention
 
ha! yes, distractions are hard
I have a bird feeder in the backyard so the squirrels and birds keep luring me to the deck window... they are sometimes way more fascinating than CSS : )
 
the annoying thing is that often, my laundry seems more fascinating that css :/
 
4:28 PM
hahahaha I am with you
 
4:38 PM
gotta call it a day. see ya chaps 'round
 
5:00 PM
hey @Matt are we able to have alert box on the main page?
 
huh?
 
alert("We are not an Adobe Usergroup, please RTFM before asking your question");
 
ah nah, dont think thats possible.
 
its really getting out of hand. Got rid of the Font ID questions only to be bombarded with entry level Adobe questions instead
 
just apart of a site really.
we'll solve that and have to work on something else
I think I would get in trouble if I said what I really wanted to... The amount of time some people put into asking an entry level question they could have easily googled it and found tutorials
 
5:10 PM
hm hm hmmm, I think it's time for a new NAS
 
@JohnB huh? I only know the rapper, what are you referring to?
 
heh, Network Attached Storage
tiny computer to store all of my data. 30% remaining free space on my current NAS
I could just replace the drives in that one for larger capacity, but I think it might by a good idea to keep it as an added backup for the important stuff.
@Scott what level RAID do you run? 5?
 
5:34 PM
@JohnB freeNAS!!!!
 
considering it
 
I want a mini rack mount but cant justify 300 for a new 12U when I bought a 55U for 125
 
heh, I have a couple server racks that I don't use, I would if I had a place to put them
I was considering cutting one in half to make a mini rack
 
always wondered if studio racks would work with IT racks
 
6:01 PM
@Ryan ever have this kinda workout?
 
uh making fun of the face or really asking me about shotput? Cause yes I have tried throwing before.
 
doesnt that hurt though?
 
not really, its like anything else. Start with a weight you can manage and warm up properly to protect the joints
 
6:34 PM
@JohnB RAID 5
one drive fails, no problem, 2 drives fail, I'm toast.
 
7:27 PM
@matt I was tempted to say, "because of laziness" but I channeled you and didn't. Be proud! graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/50247/…
 
7:51 PM
pretty big UX issue when I have no idea how to search for someone in the new Google Contacts. Or I'm just a dummy
 
8:02 PM
can it be both? =P
 
likely
the search bar at the top searches anyone using Google Plus
I do not care about anyone using Google plus, I still don't know how to search for non-G Plus contacts
 
this on phone or computer?
 
computer
I'd just Ctrl + F to find it, but they hijack the browser find feature and place your cursor in that search box -___-
 
hmm on my phone I have Google Contacts nd if I type in my moms name she comes right up. She's not on Google+
 
ah, this helped hah. ghacks.net/2015/03/05/…
showed me how to turn off the new UI
the annoying part is how difficult it is to search for that problem. Any results I saw were referring to the old UI
 
8:07 PM
its bad when I want to go play miniature golf in FL
@JohnB google blocking the searches, lol
 
@Matt did you see the beer I posted yesterday?? You come down, I'll buy you one.
 
@Ryan wont be till summer
already looking at possibly booking a boat to go fishing for the day but they want about a grand
 
I'm so hungry. I need to start making my own nut mix or something to bring to work :(
anyone have food to share?
 
ugh 2 more questions to make for the exam
 
hate ugh
 
8:21 PM
yeah
hi
 
@joojaa or @BESW or anyone else really --- am I the only one that's never heard of a stroke referred to as a Halo?
To me a Halo would be a glow :\
 
I haven't heard of it, but I can see how it might be.
"Halo = glow" is very culture-specific.
Halos in religious iconography have been visually interpreted as solid disks, thin lines, even horns.
 
@Ryan No
yeah halos in the sky are cool
 
8:36 PM
@BESW circles and disks I've heard of - never heard of horns before. Have a reference or painting in mind? I could see if he wanted a circle behind an arrow that you might call that a Halo. Regardless it certainly doesn't sound like a "Standard Term"
 
dont get hooked up on technicalities, language aint so precise :)
anyway scott is worng the sharp boundaries can be done with a effect
;P
@Ryan how do you propose i send my nut mix to you so it arrives before the heat heath of the universe?
 
The "horns" thing is a good example of language's impreciseness: the Latin Vulgate version of the Bible features an interesting translation choice. It seems that the translator felt only Christ should be depicted with "rays of light" coming from his head.
The Bible used the Hebrew word karan for this, which had multiple possible meanings, and he chose a different Latin word depending on whether it was applied to Christ or other figures. The word he used for Moses's glorification in Exodus was cornuta, which literally means "horned."
 
huh? heat heath? @Joojaa
 
At first it was understood as metaphorical, but eventually you get this:
 
@Ryan heat death
 
8:43 PM
And this:
 
cool
 
There's also an artistic tradition wherein halos are rendered as flat disks resting on the figure's head, rather than floating behind also perfectly parallel to the viewer:
 

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