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4:23 AM
wow @ryan you might get your first gold with that dress question
 
 
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9:07 AM
Ahh the importance of research. Seems Mac OS10.10 Yosemite has issues with external firewire drives being randomly ejected and corrupted. --- that explains my issues with RAIDs since the update.
 
 
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1:26 PM
@Matt I'm trying to! But why'd you protect it making it harder for people to answer???
@Scott 8k :P
 
cv-pls?
 
close vote
I suppose there's not much need to call it out in a small community like GD
we do it on StackOverflow to make sure certain posts don't get tons of crappy answers because they're list questions or simple errors
it also lets people discuss whether or not they think it should be closed, which I'm still not 100% sure of here (I think the question is off topic but I'm not fully sure)
 
I just want it to get 10k views before people move on to something else.
Good Question badge too since I never got one. But that's Silver.
 
at the rate of the views I know you wont have an issue
i think it was featured on my stack app
 
Sad thing is cogsci has similar question but almost no views
 
2:12 PM
people know GD more
icon stands out
 
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Q: What color is this dress? -- And why do some see it as white and gold and others see it as black and blue?

John BerrymanHere's the dress (and keep reading, this is actually a serious question): This question about this image has apparently become quite a rapidly spreading meme on the internet. And after conducting my own little home experiment I can see why! My brother an law looked at this image on the same sc...

yeah CogSci is still trying to get out of Beta
@ZachSaucier I downvoted bu didn't close vote for now. Left a comment instead. If anything I think it should be closed as duplicate to a photo resource question.
Either that or keep open and become a wallpaper resource question, which I don't believe we have already
 
2:29 PM
I thought since it's asking for list type answers (no correct answer - depends fully on the content of the image people are looking for, the style, and is opinion based) that it would be off topic, guess not
 
Its been discussed in Meta and often becomes a Wiki
 
Naty is a repwhore, lol
 
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Q: Where are some good places to find royalty free stock images?

ninjasenseI'm always on the hunt for free stock images to use while I design, what are some good resources for images that are under a a royalty free or creative commons licence?

 
 
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4:13 PM
@Ryan are you able to see deleted posts on your own question?
there are three deleted answers, the main reason for protection is to prevent more like that. I don't know the specific mechanics, but questions sometimes get auto-protected by Community♦ when they have a bunch of deleted answers
here we go. So the only reason this wasn't auto-protected was because one of the deleted answers is by a user who has more than 10 rep
@Scott thanks for leaving the comment on that font id question...made me want to bang my head against the wall. Especially the re-addition of the tag
 
@JohnB no I can't see deleted posts on my own question. But I just got my 10k gold trophy :))
 
ah congrats!!
 
(or should, whenever it registers)
hopefully it gets 3 more upvotes too
 
4:28 PM
I was so tempted Thursday night to post a question about the dress. But it would have been a question I already knew the answer to, and that would have felt like rep whoring haha
your question is much better
 
what would you have asked?
and I'm totally rep whoring the current event
 
more along the lines of the question at CogSci
 
I might end up answering the question myself. I've done a bit of research and found some more scientific backing into how its done which may shed more light on how it can be reproduced. Ultimately though I'm led to believe it will be almost impossible to reproduce
 
Are you on team blue-black or team white-gold?
 
I saw white and gold originally. Neither team is wrong though or has anything wrong with their vision
 
4:37 PM
ahh, consider yourself lucky for having seen both
 
wish I could get more people interested in the "Tennis." Think its funny that Vincent and Matt are all for these community building activities but when someone actually starts one they're too busy to even comment
 
so is yours with the Golden Gate Bridge a derivative of joojaa's?
 
yeah but to try and get someone else involved we ended up back tracking
im going to do one off of cockypups right now during my lunch
 
cool
 
unless you want to jump in
 
4:45 PM
no go ahead, I'll see if I can jump in after you
or maybe after joojaa, since he spoke up
 
not sure if I'm not explaining well or if cockypup is a beginner but can really go a lot further than him and Joojaa did
 
5:16 PM
I am not a beginner. I tried not to modify much the previous step, though, because I thought it would be cool if most of the previous step is still there but the next step is just a variation of it.
 
I like that idea
 
ah okay. Didn't mean to offend you if I did was mostly wondering if I was explaining it properly @cockypup
 
5:28 PM
@Ryan: No sweat, I did not get offended at all : ) You explained it perfectly. I was explaining why I did not changed it much.
 
6:00 PM
I hate that buggy review counter.
 
@JohnB what's buggy about it?
 
How do you tell a client "I'm not IT support for web services" politely :)
 
by giving them other options at the same time?
 
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Q: Notification for reviews shows way too much

MołotSince a recent change in notifications, I see more than I should: I see no reason to see 134 posts are awaiting review, when there is literally nothing I can do about them. I think it is a bug, because notification is meant as something that will make me act. When I know I usually can't, obvio...

@Scott feign ignorance? Pretend the issue is beyond your IT capabilities
 
I see
 
6:10 PM
Like??/ They are coming to me because I'm the closest they know. I built a general "squeeze" site for them using their code form Infusionsoft. Now they have issues with Infusionsoft and are asking me to fix them. I'm not an Infusionsoft expert and it's not really my wheelhouse to fix Infusionsoft issues
Despite that Meta post.. something DID change though @JohnB I used to only see a number for the posts I could review... now I see how long things sit in the Mod queue :) Or maybe the mods were jsut on top if it more during beta and early stages of the site :)
Doesn't really bother me though
I jsut realize how lazy our mods are :) nudge, nudge, wink, wink :)
 
@Scott right now I see 3 in the badge but 0 are available when I click on it
 
I see 3.. and 1 is available
 
we charge extra for speedy flag service
 
I just want my gold badge already :(
 
I handled that 1.. now it's gone :)
 
6:13 PM
ok yeah now there's no 3 for me
 
@Ryan after 4pm Pacific probably
(next day for golds based on views/user input)
 
what do you mean based on user input?
 
I think those badges are a cron script that runs on date rollover. They aren't like the badges you get becuase you yourself did something
At the end of the day.. the views are calculated and badges awarded
Badges which rely on other users doing something (like viewing your post) aren't immediately awarded.
It's only been a few badges I've had to wait a day to get, but I think the golds are most common in this aspect
... and they tend to kill the chat :)
 
sounds right to me
 
Think that'll be my last bounty for a while. I should cross that 10k mark for mod privs I suppose
 
6:31 PM
@Scott thats because I quit being on GD so much and working more on my projects ;)
 
Good for you :)
 
and this weekend I worked on sanding my butcher desk.. I hate sanding pipe.
need to find someone with a sand blaster
 
@Ryan I think you're a hundred views short though, it says 9,880 for me
rounded up to 10k when it's in list view
 
wow he already almost hit 10k.. wow
 
ah didn't know it rounded up. That's dumb, it should round down if its going to be tied to badges
 
6:33 PM
you'll be at 10k in no time
 
itll get there tonight or tomorrow hopefully
 
tonight I'd expect. If not, it'll be included in the newsletter which goes out on Tuesdays
so the 3 people who subscribe to that will get to see it then
 
are we going to have your first fold badge party?
 
Yes! Of course!
 
9,900 now. I think it'll be 10k within an hour.
 
6:39 PM
Heck we can all click it repeatedly and get the 100 :)
Anyone watch Laste Week Tonight with John Oliver? The dress was on last night :)
 
haha I think there is some sort of restriction there, IP based or maybe account based I'm not sure
nope, I don't get HBO
 
@Scott doesnt work that way
@JohnB yes its IP based
so if you wanted to access on every device it would work
 
I know I know. I think there's like a 4hr or 8hr delay before same IP views are counted
 
@iKlsR hello
 
Hi
@JohnB Sorry, you pinged me like days ago. I forgot to respond. Can you share the post again.
 
6:45 PM
@iKlsR Blender came up in a meta discussion meta.graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/q/2438/8708
I was hoping you could weigh in on what it is you'd like us to send over
I can never get over how silly it seems that bank transactions have a "pending" state (or at least that it can last a few days)
 
to make certain you aren't overdrafting the account... and to give the bank those few days to use your money.
 
the second reason seems more believable
 
and more probable :)
 
and more profitable* fixed
 
It would be reasonable for an external transfer transaction to take a few days in like 1980. I feel like there's no reason for it not to be almost instantaneous now, and they're taking advantage of the fact that it's what people are expecting so there's no need to improve it
of course I don't know anything about bank system architecture and it's more pleasing to assume they're being greedy than to give the benefit of the doubt :)
 
6:57 PM
@JohnB If it's Blender send it obviously ;). General cg might be iffy, use your best judgement, no harm done as these can be easily removed or closed, if you have the time can always feel free to ask someone in our chat.
 
Well.. that's like voting John :) There's no reason we need a single day and ballot boxes. The internet could handle voting in real time without the electoral college.. but....
 
@iKlsR ok, will do thanks
 
@JohnB Any particular tags, let me have a look around.
 
most in the Blender tag are too old to migrate
 
Feel free to cancel that tag and direct persons our way. ;)
3d seems too vague for the most part, so those are the ones worth asking before but don't hesitate to migrate blender ones.
 
7:10 PM
@iKlsR what about the 3DS max ones?
 
@JohnB why'd you hammer the Sketch question?
 
Really Ryan? It's open-ended and shopping list :)
 
@Ryan which one?
 
Yes but in the past we've allowed those and just make them into community wiki
gold badge just appeared :)
 
7:20 PM
congrats!
 
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Q: How should we deal with "Good sources for ..." or "Where I can find ..." type of questions?

koiyuThere are already quite a few question asking for resources, which basically ask for links: Where are some good places to find free stock images? What are good sources for Open-Source fonts? Where can I find good filigree? Where can I find tutorials for Gimp? Where can I find tutorials for Inks...

 
 
Congrats! And it appears I was wrong..that's not one of those "wait till rollover" badges :)
 
congrats, now we can invite you into the gold room
@Scott you're wrong O_O
 
Realize that's a meta post from beta days Ryan :)
 
7:22 PM
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Q: How can we have a close vote that specifies resource gathering as off-topic, yet have a resource-recommendation tag?

DomI think the title says it all really. The resource-recommendations tag is very broad, and could really include anything. We have more specific tags for areas where we're happy to recommend things, but should we really have such an ambiguous tag inviting all kinds of off-topic content? Doesn't ...

@Scott sure but JohnB hammered it. Its not like the community made a new meta to decide that resource questions are no longer permitted, or collectively voted to close. I think it should be especially for a relatively new non-adobe software where resources are a lot more difficult to find
 
what question are we talking about here?
 
possibly. To be honest.. I'm growing more and more fond of the software support questions being closed.
 
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Q: Best sources/tutorials/books to learn Sketch

AlessandroWhat are the best videos/book/sources to learn Sketch 3?

 
I think a book on Typography has a much more limited scope than any and all resources on Sketch 3
 
ya plus he is asking for videos books and sources so that question will never have a right answer
 
7:25 PM
Which is why I said it could be a community wiki like the Stock Resource Questions
 
you will always have to provide an edit for the question to be valuable and there will never be a right answer
 
regarding the community wiki thing: there's no point anymore. That's an outdated mechanism. If there's another post like this one where we want to encourage people to add to one answer, then it's appropriate
 
plus I think with a new re-design coming arent they going to address wiki disposal?
 
I don't know about that. CW was relevant when there was no such thing as suggested edits. It was implemented to allow people with not enough rep or anonymous users to make edits to posts
suggested edits killed the need for that
Posts also used to automatically be converted to CW after a certain number of edits were made, they killed that functionality too
we just get a mod flag instead now
I'm more comfortable with book recommendation questions because books aren't subjected to link rot. The book may become outdated, but at least it'll (probably) still exist
 
I guess Im just in favor especially when its Sketch or Affinity or anything else not-adobe. But then I didn't know the Wiki changed entirely
 
7:32 PM
And stack sites are supposed to be more expert oriented. "How to learn" isn't really an expert-level question. Not that I wish the site to be elitist at all. But it's impossible really to tell someone how to learn. Everyone is different. I like seeing other software than Adobe... but I'm becoming less a fan of software questions in general.
 
Well, the Sketch question is a LMGTFY question. Google will do a much better job at indexing the latest and relevant tutorials for Sketch
 
yeah. that's kind of what I mean.... Google always answers "How to learn" better.
 
not exactly accurate
 
I don't blame the user for not knowing, but any question asking for "the best" is probably not a good fit or needs to be re-worded. Being the best is likely something that is opinion based
 
Every question is looking for the best even if its not stated and merely implied.
 
7:42 PM
well, sometimes I add answers that are not "the best" way
recent example that comes to mind: graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/a/46665/8708
I prefer the Blend option but added my answer just to show another way it could be done
the outcomes are not the same, who knows which style the user would prefer. One is not necessarily better than the other
 
Eh we're just arguing semantics at this point but everyone hopes for the best solution. Not a crappy one. There can be multiple equal solutions, but that's still better than some garbage one.
 
true
 
I mean even in the real non-software questions. "How do I handle my boss who doesn't like my designs?" --- shoot him. Sure shooting him works. But its pretty far from a decent answer
 
haha
I appreciate you asking, but I stand by my hammering the sketch question. Though if it gets re-opened through the review queue, I certainly wouldn't go against the community's decision and re-close it
 
potentially NSFW, woman in bikini http://i.stack.imgur.com/LKsfM.jpg
Orginal Photo ^ (not great resolution)
potentially NSFW, woman in bikini http://i.stack.imgur.com/X7ti9.jpg
Retouched in Affinity Photo beta and color adjusted as the model requested to give it a softer look
potentially NSFW, woman in bikini http://i.stack.imgur.com/xDa9f.jpg
Then a litle more playing in Affinity since it was my first time using it. Pretty slick on hair selection and I added two light sources which was a lot better interface and performance than photoshop
 
7:56 PM
I'm personally not concerned, but it might be a good idea to force those to be links instead of embedded images for anyone who may be at a less tolerant workplace
 
I'd have never opened a "chat" at any job :)
 
uh... not sure how to do that
 
not sure if there's a special trick but you could just add extra text before or after the link
 
ah didn't know that - and now its too late for me to edit. If you think its necessary though feel free to edit it
More interested in spreading the word of Affinity. I'm pretty happy with it so far
 
@Ryan how's it work in conjunction with Adobe tools.. can you round trip files?
 
8:00 PM
I've seen less concerning images get flagged is all, just being proactive
 
@Scott not sure what you mean by "round trip files?" - It has .psd import and saving and export and all of that stuff but haven't tried it. I can try it tonight and let you know
 
yeah.. can you take files from Afinity to Photoshop, then back to affininty... or to Illustrator and back etc.
 
weren't you on Windows, Ryan? Recent switch or am I remembering incorrectly?
 
I believe so, supposed to be able to do at least in final. Think that's in the beta. I'll try it tonight and see how well it actually works
Windows at work, Mac at home.
 
ahh ok
Macs seem to get all the cool new "indie" graphics programs
 
8:03 PM
I've considered looking into it, just haven't had the time. My comp'd cc subscription will be up soon and I'll be faced with the monthly fee, sticking to CS6 (most likely), or finding others.
 
I thought you tried their Illustrator app though? Affinity Design
 
Downloaded it.. but just no time to really explore at the time. then I forget :) I did that with Sketch.. and now I'm locked out of a "trial" :)
So I don't want to install until I know. And really if files can't be round tripped then I may not look at all.
 
Well at least for now Affinity Photo is unlimited until its out of beta. 10 day trial won't start until then. I'll have a look tonight at how the integration works. I imagine more advanced things might have issues if you're using channels, displacement maps, lighting, 3D but never know. Maybe it'll work perfectly, maybe it won't.
 
well it helps to know there's no expiration. THanks
I can't even try Sketch now.. and I'm not paying for it to find out it won't work for me :)
Okay... I should get some work done. See y'all later!
 
8:23 PM
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Q: Best Method to Vectorize Logo

Adam ParishI'm a pretty decent graphic designer but I'm not quite sure what the best method would be to make it a vector image. I'm going to try and make it with the pen tool and gradient fills. This was is an edited logo from a stock logo site and is only a large png. I've tried using various live traci...

I know that's duplicate but can't find the original
 
but I don't think either are the right one
 
I was almost sure we have something closer to the two you found but in illustrator
 
9:06 PM
@Matt *QA site for people who use Blender. :P
 

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