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12:12 AM

@nitsua60 They had a bundle with all the original adventures that were converted for Yawning Portal. Looks like it was a time-limited thing, because I can't find it any more.

Adeptus

1:35 AM

ugh... trying to sign up for a DnDBeyond / Twitch account, and all my usual usernames are taken

Miniman

@Adeptus Yeah, Twitch has that issue worse than most places, because they never retire accounts and lots of people make multiple accounts.

CTWind

FWIW, it asked me for a new name for the dndbeyond site after logging in with Twitch, so I don't think the site uses the actual Twitch display name.

So if that's what you're having trouble naming you could go with whatever if you don't intend to use the twitch part of the account.

(I signed up within the first like 5 minutes and grabbed a 4 letter name, woo!)

Miniman

Even when I know no-one's going to see it, I still feel weird picking a username I don't normally use.

CTWind

I do like it when people use the system like battle.net does, where you can name yourself whatever and it'll autoappend a 4 digit pin to the end.

Miniman

@CTWind They might not require unique display names - most sites don't.

CTWind

1:41 AM

True, I have no idea if that name needs to be unique. (Though I don't see a way to change it either)

Miniman

@CTWind @Adeptus Well, if you try to set your display name to Miniman, we can find out. But I can't find a way to change it either, so you might be stuck as "Miniman" forever.

CTWind

I'm gonna stick with my 'Wind', I think. :-P

I think they might be unique as they're how you look up member's profiles (I.E.)

Miniman

Ah, right.

Shalvenay

hey there @CTWind and @NautArch

CTWind

Hi!

Shalvenay

1:49 AM

how're things going?

CTWind

Good, getting used to a new mechanical keyboard. (Haven't had one in years)

Shalvenay

ah. OK here.

trogdor

@CTWind yeah I like this too, that way you can pick what you want, and still like, be picked out as an individual by the people who you want to be able to do that (and not so much anyone else XD)

Adeptus

@CTWind Oh yay, it uses gravatar

Miniman

@Adeptus The first time my avatar popped up on a non-stackexchange site, it freaked me out, but I've come to really like gravatar.

Shalvenay

2:17 AM

hey there @Dom

Dom

@Shalvenay Hi what's up?

Shalvenay

not a whole lot, as for you?

(been doing a bit of campaign planning here)

Dom

Eh just hanging out.

Shalvenay

hey there @daze413

daze413

@Shalvenay Heya! How's things?

Shalvenay

2:27 AM

alright here, working up some campaign notes for if I want to parlay my dungeon into a follow-on campaign, as to how they're going over there?

daze413

Just got an answer for my arqade question by asking someone through a PM elsewhere. Apparently, answering it won't give useful information so am thinking of deleting it

Shalvenay

LOL

yeah, just zap it at that point

daze413

because the odds of success vary from server to server. The mods tweak it, as I understand. And in my server they really gimped the odds so it's not a useful answer

I do have a math question I'm really struggling with now that I have my data

Shalvenay

nasty DM thing -- kobolds inventing self-relocking door locks ;P (no magic needed, either, just sneakily placed mechanical parts and stiff spring tension on the core)

daze413

Also wondering if Dice, Camera, Action episode 30+ is still running curse of strahd or some sort of homebrew campaign of Chris Perkins

@Shalvenay so, open it > step through > close > re-locks?

Shalvenay

2:33 AM

kinda

daze413

but then if youre inside, you can just open it right?

Shalvenay

the idea is that if it's unlocked with a key, that allows the lock to turn fully and then it latches in the unlocked position when the key is removed

daze413

nifty. what uses will it get?

Shalvenay

as to inside? delayed exit hardware :P

Kobolds trapping people in their lair ;)

daze413

ah so its for the main entrance? not just every door?

Shalvenay

2:36 AM

main entrances, special trap chambers, that sort of thing

daze413

yeah, ok, but why go through the trouble? to avoid forgetting to lock up after?

Shalvenay

to foil lockpickers, partly

basically, its a lock that makes you think you've unlocked it, only to lock back up on you

daze413

hmm... it would surprise you exactly once, I think

when the PCs figure it out, theyll bar the door open with a door stop or something

Shalvenay

well, this is the kind of thing that has to work only once :)

daze413

make it count! haha

Shalvenay

2:40 AM

xD

daze413

but if you could make leaving the door open detrimental or unfavorable, it'd be a minor annoyance

Shalvenay

that's easy -- drafts ;)

daze413

@Shalvenay i dont quite follow.

Shalvenay

@daze413 i.e. making it so that leaving the door open creates a large, unwanted air movement through said door ;)

especially if it's cold air coming in

"Why the heck are you leaving the door open? It's FREEZING in here!"

daze413

@Shalvenay but if the alternative is the possibility of getting trapped inside, I know I'd let it open. At least it's not as frigid as being outside?

Shalvenay

2:43 AM

@daze413 hrm...yeah, you might have a point

daze413

and itll probably be only cold in the first room. As you move in deeper, the cold will disperse

Shalvenay

that is a point, yes

ooh, have them being chased ;)

daze413

from the inside or out?

Shalvenay

from behind

these kobolds have ways to get around ;)

daze413

so... from outside going in?

Shalvenay

2:44 AM

yeah

daze413

oooh, sneaky kobolds and their little tunnels

Shalvenay

got some ideas with stenches and smoke clouds as well

going for a Tuckeresque theme with my kobolds xD

(in more ways than one, too -- particularly cunning Kobold leaders in my world are given the nickname "Tucker" after a famous general who engineered a key victory in what basically was the Kobold equivalent of Stalingrad)

speaking of worldbuilding things -- I need a neutral magic deity (preferably from the FR pantheon) that could reasonably be worshipped by crazy elven witch-hunting cultists

daze413

@Shalvenay Given by whom? humans who have survived them?

Shalvenay

@daze413 hrm...I'll have to think on this :)

daze413

3:03 AM

@Shalvenay because if the kobolds give it among themselves, they'd give the award to any kobold who's not a half-wit because of pride, and a crippling inferiority complex

Shalvenay

@daze413 haha

daze413

@Shalvenay kobolds are a dark mirror to my country, actually. It's sad... Ohp! just got real there for a sec.

Shalvenay

yeah, Kobolds make a good fit for a Southeast Asian type environs

as a "native biome" sort of thing

daze413

@Shalvenay i can totally relate to them and know how they think haha, but ironically have never run kobolds

Shalvenay

yeah -- in this case, the party's encounter with Kobolds is with a merc unit that's off wrapping up a training and civil engineering deployment

daze413

3:06 AM

especially with the insights in Volo's? the kobolds are pretty well-rounded society

Shalvenay

yeah, Volo's did a great job with bugbears and kobolds

really went one-note with gnolls and orcs tho

(speaking of orcs -- that's who hired the Kobolds for that civil engineering job. xD)

right now btw -- I only have three races -- Orcs, Elves, and Kobolds

daze413

@Shalvenay I liked that passage where that researcher delves into the mind of gnoll? really cool. I mean, you cant really get a lot of depth for Chaotic Evils, correct me if I'm wrong

Shalvenay

@daze413 yeah -- I'm used to a more...balanced portrayal of gnolls (actually have a gnoll PC laying around from the meatspace 1e campaign I was in)

daze413

Gnolls in 1e weren't demon lord-spawn?

Shalvenay

@daze413 well, mine was raised from a kit by a local monastery and wound up following St. Cuthbert as a result

daze413

3:13 AM

@Shalvenay did 1e give them the hunger, as described in volo's? or the rage of gruumsh, or the like?

Shalvenay

not sure, haha. our DM was pretty freewheeling in terms of character choices

daze413

I also never got how Gnolls reproduced? How do a handful of survivors of a warband end up replacing the lost numbers in a matter of... months?

Shalvenay

@daze413 prolifically, that much is certain xD

daze413

I mean, if you think about it, Gnolls in 5e probably have the most inefficient kind of reproduction?

Shalvenay

maybe. I know some material for 3.x has done a much more balanced portrayal of Gnolls, that's for sure

daze413

3:16 AM

they need (1) live hyenas- how well do hyenas reproduce?, (2) a slain corpse by Yeenoghu himself? (3) eat the slain corpse, (4) bulge a bit and transform into a gnoll. Unless the transformation yields several gnolls to a hyena, that's not very fast

Shalvenay

yeah, that's a serious O.O

if I was setting up gnolls for my world, they'd be far more...standard in their reproductive means

(if I ever get to play MonsterHearts though -- I think I'll be playing a gnoll for that)

daze413

so maybe yeenoghu can delegate the slaying corpse thing to a Fang or a Flind, they'd still be limited to the amount of hyenas they can put out.

Shalvenay

...yeah

I'm also someone who pretty automatically tosses One-Eye out the window

daze413

Ok, so apparently 8 pups in a birth. And 3 years to mature

Shalvenay

yeah, that's a lotta gnolls

and yikes. I thought it'd be more like 8-10 years to mature!

my gnoll's actually pretty old xD

daze413

3:25 AM

no, I meant the hyenas

Shalvenay

oh. haha.

daze413

the gnolls are 1 hyena = ?? gnolls. They also probably start as adults already

Shalvenay

O.o at the last part

if I may ask...what "monstrous" races do you run @daze413? (the comment about not having run kobolds before has me curious)

daze413

@Shalvenay Yeah, I wanna freak out my players when they witness gnoll birth. And when they see like half a dozen fully-grown gnolls come out of a bloated hyena, thatll prolly freak them out good

Miniman

@daze413 If you have Out of the Abyss, there's a scene you might want to read.

daze413

3:29 AM

@Shalvenay Aside from published adventures, I've run Bullywugs, Lizardfolk, Orcs, and the standard bandits/thugs

oh, I love drow

@Miniman yeah, am planning to use that scene xD

Miniman

@daze413 Nice.

daze413

@Miniman oh wait, no, this is the one in the Labyrinth?

spoilered

Miniman

Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of.

daze413

@Miniman that's canon right? So that's how gnolls reproduce?

It's even more inefficient as I thought! No wonder Yeenoghu can't beat Demogorgon!

Miniman

@daze413 Well, it's also in the Monster Manual, so I assume it's canon.

@daze413 Gnoll fangs can also do it.

daze413

3:35 AM

@Miniman but the issue is they're still constrained to the number of hyenas that are following them

Shalvenay

@daze413 ah. my short-form experience GMing so far has had bandits/thugs, and some more exotic monsters (gremlins, elementals, a tumblespark, an ooze), as well as experiences that were entirely environmental hazards, and some...off-key encounters

daze413

@Shalvenay off-key, how?

Shalvenay

(once had the party run into an Orc family driving a herd of sheep. :P)

daze413

@Shalvenay that is adorable. were they friendly?

Shalvenay

@daze413 more or less neutral

Miniman

3:37 AM

@daze413 You gotta remember, D&D doesn't really care about questions like "How can a gnoll population possibly sustain itself?" - what it cares about is dramatic scenes like that one.

Shalvenay

but yeah -- I've never really tinkered with bullywugs as a DM before

(nor with lizardfolk, but that's primarily because I have a view of lizardfolk that hews far closer to Argonians or the original Saurial than the typical MM lizardfolk writeup)

@daze413 -- also. I wonder what a swine princess to go with your swine prince would be like. :o

daze413

@Shalvenay they're great in swamps- ignore difficult terrain by jumping over them. Hiding in puddles for ambush, they lack a solid ranged option though so I homebrewed a poison dart Bullywug

@Miniman Would be even more dramatic if the hyena bursts 3 or 4 gnolls out of its belly after some time

Shalvenay

@daze413 ah. I don't use swamps much as a terrain type (if I did, it'd probably be more of a rice-paddy type of environment that'd favor lizardfolk due to being hot and muggy all the time)

daze413

also homebrewed a thuggish bullywug, my players aptly named "Swolellywugs"

@Shalvenay wouldnt fit the tone of the game, sorry. It's cool but the lack of a lower body would just disappoint the swine princess

Shalvenay

@daze413 haha, perhaps you can describe it to me?

@daze413 hahahaha. quite, I'm sure. and if there's anything that's true, it's that pissing off Miss Piggy is a bad plan if you want to be around at the end of the day ;)

hey there @RollingFeles

RollingFeles

3:56 AM

@Shalvenay hi! :)

how're things?

It has been a couple of months since last time I visited this chat.

Shalvenay

alright here, been tinkering with a dungeon lately and even working on a potential follow-on campaign with mercenary Kobolds, courtroom shenanigans, and crazy cultists with pointy ears all rolled into one ;)

RollingFeles

Sounds fun!

Shalvenay

as to how you've been?

it has been -- been playtesting the dungeon lately and it's definitely a different experience, that's for sure

RollingFeles

(as always, when you describe your shenanigans or plans for them :P)

Well, I have 51 hours overtime in this month. But that lead to sucessful product presentation yesterday.

Shalvenay

nice

got a short-form game coming up soon, although the 1e campaign I was in at the FLGS went kablooie when the DM got yoinked by his $workplace

daze413

4:01 AM

@Shalvenay Imagine a bigger bullywug that can tank a few hits and has higher strength for grappling. I made that right about the time I really got into theangrygm's monster building

Shalvenay

@daze413 ah

RollingFeles

Yeah. Also, I bought Nintendo Switch with Zelda and a couple of games. And I'm very happy about it.

@Shalvenay campaign with St. Cuberth kobold ? :)

daze413

@RollingFeles i'm glad theres a positive review about the switch. I keep hearing bad things about it :(

Shalvenay

@RollingFeles s/kobold/gnoll

RollingFeles

@Shalvenay ah, sorry.

@daze413 I think a lot of issues are typical for such launches.

And it's all just hype talk.

Shalvenay

4:03 AM

yeah, all the latest bugs!

the bad news lately was that I had to endure a rather chilly most of a week last week or so

RollingFeles

Freshest! Just right from under programmer's fingers.

Shalvenay

surge fried the furnace control board and partially fried the thermostat

RollingFeles

:o

Shalvenay

they're both replaced now, and the weather's turning the corner to spring, too

but man, that was annoying as heck -- never knew a thermostat could brown out a gas valve like that before

but yeah -- dusting off my dragonborn for the short-form game, and also introducing a couple of players I ran with in the past to a couple folks from here :)

hey there @ben

Ben

Quick question - I need a list of "trap" spells (i.e. spells that can be set off by other people at a later date) that a level 5 Warlock may have access to.

o/

D&D 5e

Miniman

4:11 AM

@Ben There are none.

Ben

@Miniman Dang

Shalvenay

@Miniman none in the 'Lock list, or none whatsoever in 5e?

Miniman

@Shalvenay None that a level 5 Warlock has access to. There are 2 (total) in 5e.

Ben

The Ranger has access to one i can think of

nitsua60

@doppelgreener I'm not tackling this one. Someone else's turn =)

Miniman

4:12 AM

@Ben Oh, I forgot that one. OK, 3.

nitsua60

@Miniman glyph and symbol?

Miniman

@nitsua60 Ayup.

nitsua60

(Always nice to get the answer without looking it up!)

Shalvenay

hey there btw @nitsua60

Ben

@nitsua60 ...that's off-topic is it not?

nitsua60

4:14 AM

@Ben no different from this one...

@Ben It's not off-topic, it's just a crappy question (IMO). The solution is obvious and simple: look through all Dragon Magazines from the timeframe. Just because it's laborious and you don't feel like doing it doesn't mean it requires expertise.

CTWind

@Miniman For non damaging ones, Alarm (limited to 8 hours) and Magic Mouth (until dispelled) might count, but yeah I wouldn't necessarily put them in 'trap' category. And I guess Mirage Arcane can hide traps? Possibly some other illusion spells too.

Miniman

@nitsua60 Yeah, this.

Ben

Ah

Miniman

@CTWind There are a few other niche ones like Guards and Wards, too.

I should have said there are only 2 useful trap spells.

Shalvenay

@Miniman -- it depends on what function you want the trap to perform :P

20

Q: My DM insists on rolling a single save for groups affected by AoE save spells. How does this affect my odds of successfully affecting the enemy?

As the title question, my DM rolls a single d20 save for groups affected by my area of effect spells that require a save, in order to save time. I can't help but feel like I'm being ripped off by this as a wizard with primarily AoE save-or-suck spells. I don't know if this is just a feeling or ...

btw @nitsua60 -- I take it you saw ^^ already?

nitsua60

4:18 AM

9 hours ago, by nitsua60

@LegendaryDude I'm one section away from finishing, just saved an update. Unfortunately I'll not be getting it done today, but here's a sneak preview:

Miniman

@Shalvenay @Ben If you come up with anything, this question could use some more answers.

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 gotcha, cool

nitsua60

At first I wasn't interested, but then I remembered a really nice trick that the GM could be using. (Look a few messages down from the one I quoted.)

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 ah, I see :D

that is clever

I've been working on the campaign notes for a follow-on for the dungeon I've been putting together, btw

nitsua60

@Miniman [remembers getting into a pretty deep and drawn-out fight with someone about this a few months back... this is why I'm moving toward your camp:

Mar 15 at 2:26, by Miniman

Ah, yeah. I used to try to comment every time I downvoted, but I got sick of arguing with people.

Shalvenay

4:22 AM

got some world background and about 5-6 story threads so far

Ben

@Miniman For the most part you've got it pretty well covered. My only other addition is make friends with Kobolds haha

The only other things I can think of, but probably don't really match the quota are reaction spells.

nitsua60

@Ben Trap construction: "hey, Fizban: just sit in this hallway and fireball anything you see coming!"

Miniman

Luckily that question included criteria that rule out that sort of thing :P

daze413

Animate Dead can be traps. Animate zombies and leave them there. Kinda. Warlock doesn't have access to it, though, Im pretty sure

Ben

4:37 AM

@nitsua60 Well, yes - but I was thinking Counterspell or Hellish Rebuke, etc.

nitsua60

@Ben don't forget: any readied spell is cast as a reaction. Or cast as usual and released as a reaction? Or slot consumed but not yet cast, then cast, costing your reaction?

daze413

@nitsua60 b and c

nitsua60

It gets weird in my mind, because of targeting.

19

Q: Can a spell be readied to trigger when its intended target comes into view?

Can I ready witch bolt, for instance, with the condition of attacking "the first goblin to come out of the cave" if I cannot see the goblin at the time of my (Ready) action? To be perfectly clear: at the time of the Ready action, the goblin is around a corner, in darkness: not targetable by witch...

dnd-5e spells readied-action

trogdor

I would assume that is the point of most ready actions isn't it?

"wait to do a thing I can't, or shouldn't, do right now"

if it didn't work that way I would question it even existing as a mechanic

nitsua60

@trogdor Oh, absolutely. I just think they were a little clunky in wording it all, so that I get a tiny headache every time I come across the situation.

trogdor

4:45 AM

ah

like 3.5 grappling

nitsua60

@trogdor Yeah. How're you supposed to grapple 3.5 opponents with only two hands?

trogdor

lol

CTWind

@nitsua60 As a commenter on this answer to another question points out, there's some amount of conflict between the sage advice cited by each (though I think the written one is the more official of the two).

nitsua60

Some days I wish Jeremy would study Greenspan's and Bernanke's public speaking styles: "say as little as possible, as precisely as possible."

(Yelen, of course, seems to be an iota more talkative.)

Oh, dear... Comey's testimony today went over 5 hours. This is going to take a while...
Night, all!

Miniman

@nitsua60 Cya!

Ben

4:52 AM

\o

Adeptus

@nitsua60 Especially that half opponent... unless they've been cauterised, they'll be slippery from all the bleeding

Ben

@Adeptus Halflings

Adeptus

@Ben That's still one opponent, just a small one

Ben

Well, it's in the name :P

Skyler

Hey guys, I hav e aquestiong probably mainly @Miniman and @Shalvenay since they have heard about my shades, if I have a super hard hitting deadly encounter with the fighting equivalent of 3 PC clones as enemies vs 6 PCs, whats a good opening distance. Druid Fighter Wizard 2xPaladins and Rogue, vs. Druid Wizard and Paladin

everybody's opinions are welcome though

Miniman

5:04 AM

It advantages the party to be closer, since they have melee-only characters.

So it's a question of how much easier or more difficult you want to make it.

Skyler

Thats what I was thinking too, but I wanted to start at a very long distance and give them a chance to close the distance fast, Im planning on the shade druid and paladin closing in really fast as he'll ride the druid as a giant eagle

The Wizard and his shade have spell sniper btw

The closing the distance fast is the part I'm not sure about

The central battlefield is going to be striped with shadows in the full moon, and I want to make it so the shades can jump into shadows but they are stuck only in the shadows that overlap

ill require that they dive into the shadow on the floor

doppelgreener

10:35 AM

trogdor

XD

eimyr

@doppelgreener you up for madness?

(as in check email)

doppelgreener

11:04 AM

@eimyr i shall check & get back to it this afternoon, busy cramming on project work (and doing things like making a topical meme in spare moments, apparently)

eimyr

@doppelgreener NOOO, you're free! You can do this!

come on, over a month of failure...

eimyr

11:18 AM

Folks! I have a playtesting request! Could I ask you to do the following:
Pick up a random novel in historical/fantasy/whimsical genre. Fairy tales are OK.
Roll a d4, d100 and d20. The d4 shows the hundreds digit – if your book is too thin, roll 1d4-1 or 1d3-1 instead. d100 shows the tens and units digits, with "00" being "00" and not "100". Open the book and turn to the page rolled, and then find a line shown by the d20.
Post the contents of the line to http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/55732/eimyrs-book-gibberish-room . Do it 6 times if you want to be super-helpful.

2

Pretty please.

Also, if you happen to not have any of such books (really?) get any other one, but let me know what the genre was.

If you want to get playtesting credit, let me know.

Skyler

hey guys, to calculate the CR of a treasure hoard are you taking the CR of everything the party defeated to get there (5e)

I just ask because if thats so when I tally up the hoard I need to make for the dungeon the PCs are finishing I'm at about 120 CR...

compared to seeing charts talking about CR 17+ and stuff...

Miniman

d4 d100 d20

The Oracle

1

Q: What should you do if a question already asked doesn't provide a satisfactory answer?

I asked How are Animated Objects created? and it was suggested that it was a duplicate of What are the rules for making constructs other than golems?. I can see that they are indeed very similar but I was not happy with the answer on the original question so believe it is right to ask a separate ...

discussion

eimyr

11:40 AM

@Skyler I can't answer your question, sorry. All I could do is to whinge about why on earth you'd like to give treasure based on CR and not on perceived other criteria

Skyler

@eimyr im definitely doing perceived other criteria, just trying to figure out if my criteria is batshit crazy

Miniman

> When determing the contents of a hoard belonging to a single creature, use the table that corresponds to that creature's challenge rating. When rolling to determine a treasure hoard belonging to a large group of monsters, use the challenge rating of the monster that leads the group.

> If the hoard belongs to no one, use the challenge rating of the monster that presides over the dungeon or lair you are stocking. If the hoard is a gift from a benefactor, use the challenge rating equal to the party's average level.

doppelgreener

@eimyr well, not to check my email right this instant, but i'll be free tomorrow evening for the game

eimyr

@doppelgreener sounds of sighs, weights hitting the floor, pressure escaping through emergency vents, reactors stabilising

trogdor

lol

Aaron

12:10 PM

Morning

eimyr

hi!

doppelgreener

ahoy!

Miniman

@doppelgreener Where? I don't see any hoys!

eimyr

... in my language, that's a very rude joke you made there

I'm sure @Magician will also see the above.

So I'm seeing lots of new faces around here. Good! Has there been an outreach campaign or what?

Miniman

@eimyr Sorry.

eimyr

12:19 PM

Just kidding. No offence caused.

It's like the UK vehicle license plates. DVLA (car authority) says they are not issuing ones with letters forming obscenities even in foreign languages, but they can't eradicate all of them, so from time to time you see one

Magician

...not quite the correct spelling

Miniman

@eimyr That seems like an impossible task, especially when you consider 13375p34k.

eimyr

not quite, but recognisable, eh?

in Polish this is exactly a form of a well-known maritime joke. "Ahoy! - A hoy do you want?"

I'll stop now.

SPavel

I woke up this morning to a 37-upvote post, which wouldn't be impressive on RPG.se but this is on a beta site that's not even doing that well, and the answer just sources Wikipedia

Craaaazy

eimyr

@Skyler That gold-to-XP problem is one of the reasons I quit D&D

SPavel

12:32 PM

@eimyr Do you know about the dangerous Polish driver wanted all over the UK?

eimyr

@Spavel Not me!

...I hope...

SPavel

Polish Driving License - QI Highlight - BBC One

►

(my laptop is having trouble playing video this morning, I hope that's the right one)

Miniman

@SevenSidedDie For interest's sake, that article both of us were trying to remember a while back about classifying player behaviour as various animals was eimyr's.

eimyr

LOL, I love the fake Prawo Jazdy on the screen which is nothing like the real thing

SPavel

It might be a thing about not being allowed to copy documents

There's a similar law for US currency, I think

eimyr

12:37 PM

but there are document example facsimiles available

SPavel

Maybe the British respect Poles that little

Also, nobody looks that good in a driver's license photo

In mine, I look like an axe murderer

eimyr

Yeah, I look like a screenshot from Papers, Please

SPavel

eimyr

awww, Jorji

nitsua60

@eimyr are those genre-listings OR- or AND-joined? I.e. are you just interested in Terry Pratchett-like works, or would Jean Auel (historical) OR Robert Jordan (fantasy) OR David Lodge (whimsy) work?

Anne Aunyme

1:05 PM

@eimyr: most of my books are not in English (and I guess that would be a problem for your experiment), I will try your thing later (then i should have access to English books) if you still need it.

eimyr

@nitsua60 or joined

nitsua60

Ty.

When I get back home (~12 h) I'll drop a few entries in there.

Aaron

I wonder if I could convince my GM to let me have profession (Businessman) Be INT based...

eimyr

@AnneAunyme it can come from a book in a foreign language, but unfortunately I need to see it in a language I can understand, so English or Polish - otherwise, a translation would be necessary

Aaron

Cause I mean lets be honest when's the last time you saw a wise businessman

Especially in a tabletop game

eimyr

1:11 PM

@nitsua60 Thanks!

Anne Aunyme

@Aaron a clever one is pretty rare too :)

NautArch

hey, i'm a businessman!

Anne Aunyme

it should be on Charisma, it's a con job after all

nitsua60

@NautArch are you in a tabletop game? =D

Anne Aunyme

even a representation

Representation: Businessman, that sounds great

nitsua60

1:14 PM

I don't get the "not remembering" part of this question. I mean, I'd totally get forgetting to even make the roll in the first place, or never thinking of anything more interesting than "you see tracks of... uh... some animals you can't identify."

NautArch

@nitsua60 in my head :)

@nitsua60 I don't get it, either. that's a bizarre question.

Anne Aunyme

wtf with this question?

Aaron

@AnneAunyme I suppose arguments could be made for both. The way I play my character though it's more of both.

Anne Aunyme

@Aaron: I played a campaign of a home-made rpg where bureaucracy was in the "arts" section, and that wasn't even the weirdest thing

Aaron

Arts? Uhhh.

Interesting but confusing

eimyr

1:27 PM

@Aaron Bureaucracy is an art.

How else could you create something so vile and soul-sucking and yet self-sustaining in its dysfunction?

Anne Aunyme

There was also "religion" under the "science" section

Aaron

Well that I could see if you were playing tabletop. Most deities are actual beings so you could technically measure their feats and such scientifically.

Anne Aunyme

Yes, it made sense in-universe

as the virus which made people change into gears mad sense

but in the absolute, it's still weird

Aaron

Yea, in a world with magic that could easily be scientifically explained. Magic is just another form of science in such worlds

Anne Aunyme

There was this dragon born with a prosthetic arm

Aaron

1:38 PM

Like born with it already attached?

Anne Aunyme

yup

a mechanic prosthetic arm

Adam

how does that happen?

Anne Aunyme

magic

it was an allegory or something

Aaron

i.imgur.com/YsbKHg1.gif .

Anne Aunyme

if i remember well, the dragon symbolised hope

but i couldn't explain how it yielded to this

Aaron

1:40 PM

I have a character that is literally hope

She is the emotion elemental of hope.

Anne Aunyme

what does she look like?

a hopper?

i know a character which is the elemental of cuteness, but it is on a silly campaign

Aaron

@AnneAunyme profiles.rphaven.com/Hope%20of%20Morning

DForck42

mornin

Anne Aunyme

@DForck42 Hope of mornin to be more precise :)

Aaron

In the world they are in elementals are formed via phenomenon similar to mini black holes. They suck in an element and the first one they absorb of a certain amount is what they are. If there is enough emotion energy in the air rarely an emotion elemental will be formed

Hope was formed after a BBG was slain and the people were celebrating

Adam

1:47 PM

That's adorable!

Anne Aunyme

awww

the dragon was named Spera (hope in latin)

Aaron

I thought about trying to use hope in another language but decided against it. Hope was hope, no reason to try to get fancy :D

Though Spera is certainly a nice name.

Anne Aunyme

Hope is not that a rare name

you have for example one in xenoblade X

and i'm pretty sure that's not the only one character named Hope

Aaron

Right, that is another reason I didn't see to make it fancy. Hope named herself after all :D

Anne Aunyme

but "Espoir" (hope in French) seems way weirder

Aaron

1:52 PM

At the time she woke up it was moringtime. She knew what she was and that she had awoken in the morning. So "Hope of Morning"

Also she is simi-based on the song Hope of Morning

Adam

Do opposing emotional elementals consider themselves siblings? Like, if there was a despair elemental, would it be, all creepy "Hello sister..." if they met?

Anne Aunyme

can there be two hope elementals or can it be only one of them?

Aaron

Yup. There are four others right now in the world. Rage, Sorrow, and Love

Only one of a certain emotion

They absorb too much of that energy type for more to exist.

Oh, yea they 'eat' the ambient emotion energy people give off.

Anne Aunyme

are they all PCs?

Aaron

Yea.

doppelgreener

1:58 PM

Fun things in IT Security happened today. Earlier this year, Firefox started displaying warnings on login forms that weren't HTTPS. Someone with an insecure HTTP login form on their site complained to the Firefox bug board.

They said the warning was unwelcome and making their customers worry and business suffer, and that their login system was perfectly secure and had never been breached in 15 years so the warning was totally unnecessary anyway. Within hours the entire database had been hacked and dumped via SQL injection and deleted.

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