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12:11 AM
@BESW This sentence is terrifying.
 
@Grubermensch Have you seen the video yet?
 
@BESW I guesstimated that I don't want to watch it at work.
 
Because, yeah, "Terrifying" is about right. Charles Stross, of The Laundry Files fame, used the hippo leech as case-in-point when making the argument that "Vampires are not sexy. At least, not in the real world."
@Grubermensch Happily, the video itself is not especially graphic. It's a guy talking, and some pictures of his team wading through South African marshes, and a photo of some dissected hippo meat.
Later on in the video he talks about the time he once ate a leech.
 
besides -- I'd think a vampire with half a brain would look for a blood source that'd be more socially acceptable than fellow human beings
/me sends Dracula a tanker truck of chilled pigs' blood
 
Assuming that's an option.
 
12:18 AM
yeah. makes me wonder what would be in human blood that would a) be necessary and b) be in the blood of no other animal
 
Stross's vampires, for example, are humans who have been infected by a multidimensional parasite that feeds on brain activity. Drinking just the smallest amount of blood creates a symbolic link to the victim so the parasite can feed on someone other than the host.
Laundry Files vampires, therefore, drink just a tiny bit of someone's blood... and the victim eventually dies of dementia.
If a vampire is unable to drink someone else's blood, the parasite eats their brain activity instead.
Lower animals, it appears, don't have the sapience needed for the parasite to feed.
(And the blood of a dead human is worthless, as it provides no link to an active brain.)
Thing is, blood is an awful source of nutrients. That's why real-life blood-drinkers are "small, specialized, and horrifyingly adapted: biological syringes with a guidance system and a digestive tract attached."
@Wrathchild Hi!
So when we look at supernatural blood-suckers, we have to assume (as Stross did) that they're getting something other than physical nourishment from their diet.
And once metaphysical nutrients are on the table, it makes a lot more sense that human blood is special.
Older examples: the first published English-language vampire story and one of the most famous pre-Dracula vampire stories both feature vampires for whom blood-drinking is not their primary sustenance: emotional manipulation is what drives and sustains them.
Lord Ruthven thrives on exposing the corruption of the nobility, shattering the good intentions of the needy, and driving the desperate to further depravity; the only time he drinks someone's blood, it's a calculated kill for the purpose of driving the victim's brother mad.
While Carmilla regularly drinks the blood of peasant girls, but it's the abusive quasi-lesbian relationship with a noble woman --leeching her vital energy through love and loyalty, not through physical bodily fluids-- that sustains her.
 
 
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1:34 AM
"All in favor of going back to the surface and getting a sheep we don't like very much?" @UrsulaV's response to finding a rune of death #dnd
 
 
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3:15 AM
Possible ban topics: D&D 5e's Heat Metal spell.
 
Hmm. Four questions in six months.
One is closed as opinion-based, and one just uses heat metal as an example.
 
Yeah, I'm exaggerating. It's just annoying seeing it come up again.
 
3:55 AM
You might be Canadian if you find yourself wondering if you should apologize for probably bothering someone with all your apologies.
 
Sorry in Canada is like aloha in Hawaiʻi: it can mean multiple things, some of them opposites, depending on context.
 
The board game Sorry! is the earliest well-known example of the sorry-not-sorry usage I can think of.
 
@IronHeart I do that a lot...
 
@BESW Oh hey, a new campaign coins kickstarter. \o/
 
@doppelgreener Pretty sure that's not Campaign Coins?
 
4:10 AM
@BESW That's Campaign Coins.
 
Oh, okay.
 
The very same I have, but many of the designs are new.
I recognise the dwarven 1, 5 and 10 coins, and the 100-silver with a book on it.
Same folks who did the Fate tokens, too!
 
Just, um.
This doesn't look like this.
 
 
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6:09 AM
@BESW You linked to both Campaign Coins and Fantasy Coins in there. They both have kickstarters!
 
....oh, I see. You weren't talking about the coin Kickstarter in the Cool Stuff block, you were mentioning a different one without linking to it.
I have a fever, remember. Inferences aren't my strong suit right now.
 
@BESW I was talking about the Campaign Coins Kickstarter that you have linked to right there in the Cool Stuff block.
 
Cool stuff has both, @BESW
 
Oooh. That. That's been up there for weeks, so I didn't think you'd just now have noticed it.
 
I have just now noticed it.
 
6:54 AM
@BESW Also: get well soon!! :(
 
7:06 AM
I feel like there are chipmunks lodged in my sinuses.
 
That sounds pretty bad.
@BESW I just learned about a site full of design courses: Lynda
 
I've seen a couple of their free vids a while back, but the interface was very aggressive about pushing their subscription--to the point that it was getting in the way of watching their free offerings so I could evaluate whether I wanted to give them my money.
 
Wow :(
That's pretty bad.
I got that experience with Warframe. Every part of the free interface was pushing on me all the things I could have if only I gave them money. It was bad enough I stopped playing.
 
So I kinda figured, "If they can't work out how to make me want their graphic design expertise, that speaks poorly to the expertise itself."
 
@BESW that is true
 
7:19 AM
At least, not actively annoy me?
I've got InDesign Secrets on my RSS feed, and it's a good mix of beginner and advanced content with a decent amount of print-specific stuff. And it's affiliated with Lynda, plugging their free videos.
 
Without lynda bugging you about stuff?
 
Nope! They don't box it into the IDS site. IDS just gives a teaser and a link.
[wanders over to see if Lynda has improved any]
Hmm. They seem to have upped their game a bit.
No popups over the video anymore.
 
there were popups over the video before!?
 
[sigh] Before I could watch a free video, I had to decline an offer to subscribe.
Before.
I was unenchanted.
 
[Insert enthusiastic comment about the awesome power of adblock here]
 
7:30 AM
Yes, well, to watch the videos at all I'd already had to disable a sizeable set of my security measures.
I usually run with adblock, flashblock, and some suite of script/java/tracker/etc controls.
 
[Nods approvingly]
 
8:36 AM
NWoD Mirrors sale: drivethrurpg.com/…
 
9:16 AM
Heh, I'm not used to drama in the Savage Worlds community, but Pinnacle have just announced a rules change that is causing a lot of heated debate
 
@acomputingpun Hi!
 
9:32 AM
@BESW Hi. I unfortunately most likely won't be staying long - just attempting to assuage my compulsively-refresh-main-site-after-posting-an-answer cravings.
 
Heh, fair enough.
It looks like a well-considered experience-based answer.
 
Thanks :)
to be honest it feels like it needs some sort of summary or closing argument, but those are my least favorite parts of essays to write and I don't have the energy right now. Maybe I'll try to add one tomorrow morning.
 
It matches my experiences on both sides of the screen across several systems, though I don't have experience with PF in particular.
 
Does it get any easier to write answers as time goes on? Or, well, more accurately, does the process of writing answers become a more dull and dispassionate one?
 
For the first--yes, I think so. For the second--no, and I think it shouldn't.
The best answers for this Stack are, I think, the ones which are about human experience. By its very nature that is not a dispassionate thing.
For me, the increased ease of answering over time comes from learning how to better share my own experience in ways that others can learn from them, and learning not to try sharing the learning detached from the experience.
 
 
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1:05 PM
Good morning
 
o/
how's things with you?
 
Stuffy. I have really bad allergies and currently no medicine for it.
 
ouch
 
i developed a rash on my neck and i have no idea where it came from
i blame spring
 
I have an extreme allergic reaction to chocolate, and the two largest families of antibiotics
both started in the last couple of years :/
so I feel for you
 
1:10 PM
Just gonna put this here again.
 
lol! brilliant
 
2:04 PM
T_T one of our questions is collecting terrible advice
i upvoted a contrary answer... and then realised that was terrible advice too and my vote is stuck
nooooooo
 
What question?
 
@doppelgreener That's always annoying
 
There's a few answers around that I'm like "Please edit so I can remove my upvote..."
 
not 100% sure i should actually say which lest i divert due process from the main site
 
2:08 PM
Could you potentially edit it yourself to remove the upvote? :P
 
@Miniman usually i solve that by doing the editing \o/
except this time I don't think there's anything in it to edit
 
No typos, or anything?
 
@doppelgreener Yeah, I wouldn't be comfortable editing unless I could see another reason.
 
I understand why that restriction is in place, but it frustrates me a lot.
I feel like I need to do a bunch of research before upvoting, when I'd much rather feel comfortable upvoting based on just the answer.
I can't count the number of times that I've upvoted an answer, done more research on the issue, and found out that the answer I upvoted was wrong.
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ah well....Came to share my glee...one of my players last session got his character drunk and claimed to be singing a kobold nursery rhyme, so I challenged him to write it outside of the session...and he did :P
 
2:10 PM
@DavidWilkins Post it!
 
Bits, and bops and shiny things
Slimy toes and furry wings

Things to eat and things to see
Drink too much and have to pee

Kurtulmak is the one
He will rule and we’ll have fun

Bits and bops and shiny things
Slimy toes and furry wings
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@DavidWilkins oh cool x)
that's a pretty good rhyme, haha
 
@DavidWilkins Awesome
I'm choosing to believe that that's a lullaby, which ties in neatly with it being midnight!
 
Nite all
 
2:12 PM
nite @Miniman !
 
That's amazing.
 
 
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3:23 PM
trying to figure out how to build my arcane trickster (in pathfinder)
debating whether or not to take a bunch of levels in AT
if i get rogue up to 10 i could start stealing weapons with mage hand
 
 
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4:46 PM
http://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/60621/what-is-a-good-modern-fantasy-system

List-based, yeah? Also, hullo everyone.
@waxeagle beat me to that comment by 15 seconds
 
5:03 PM
oh boy that question
i can think of 4 different systems to do what they need
 
hence it being on hold
 
sounds like he wants trail of cthulhu though
 
some type of cthulhu at any rate.
 
nowhere near enough detail yet
 
i think it's pretty clear
he wants an investigative system that he can introduce supernatural elements into
he wants the players to be out of place in the world of magic
he wants the magic to be actually arcane and difficult to perform
sounds like trail
 
5:06 PM
could do it with a fair few systems
 
It's back open now
 
DELTA GREEEEEEEENNNN
and many other systems, some of which are much better at what he's asking for
 
haven't played it, but gumshoe might have something too
 
Savage Worlds with either Realms of Cthulhu or the Horror Companion would too
@waxeagle that's what Trail of Cthulhu uses
 
ah, thought it might be, but wasn't sure
 
5:11 PM
it is a good fit, but there are others - depends on what types of system they like. Given the ones they've mentioned in the question they seem to be familiar with more traditional ones
 
I know we don't like "adding my two cents" answers. What's the protocol on whether or not a game recommendation answer is up to snuff? Must it be the best possible answer? Or simply one that meets the criteria of the question?
 
one that meets the criteria
 
@sillyputty meets criteria, preferably speaks from personal experience playing kinds of games described with it
 
would be interested to know how much combat they are planning
if much at all then I'd steer clear of Gumshoe from personal experience. I (and a fair few others) find the way it works in that system unsatisfying
 
@Wibbs that's a good clarifying questin
 
5:14 PM
@waxeagle already commented :)
 
great :)
 
 
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9:01 PM
is this offline too?
 
nope
 
chat resides on different servers, and is often up when the rest of the network is down
 
I wonder how much world wide software development productivity drops when SO is down
 
:)
 
 
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10:22 PM
Grahhh. I know we have a question about how to get people to respond to game organization emails better, but I can't look it up since the site is down.
And so I can't send out my game organization email.
 
The site's back up.
Wait, no, it went down again?
[sigh]
 
It was up for a minute, but I didn't think of it when I saw that.
 
You can always search Google for email site:rpg.stackexchange.com/questions and look at the cache.
 
@Tritium21 90%
At least. ;)
People first need to reconfigure their minds to go back to reading API lists instead of just googling everything. ;)
@BESW They just postponed the startup another 30 min, because there were still problems
 
10:37 PM
/me tickles @IgneusJotunn
 
10:53 PM
 
TVRO?
What is that?
 
I mean VTRO.
Guess I'm still in the fever zone.
 
IDKTA.
 
Vote to re-open.
 
Aha.
 
10:57 PM
I think that it's reached the point where, while a lot of systems are close to the querent's needs, the criteria are sufficient to identify better and worse suggestions meaningfully.
 
11:37 PM
Voted to reopen. Also upvoted the Gumshoe/Cthulhu answer. It sounds like it ticks most/all of the querent's boxes.
 
Yes indeedy.
 

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