Root Access

Sathya

2:04 PM

meta.stackoverflow.com/suggested-edits/2481

suggested edits do bring out the best in people

slhck

that's amazing

> Everyone know SO are maked by idiot (specially who disable the idiot people)

Sathya

:))

Tom Wijsman

I guess in his world only Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook and Twitter exist.

slhck

oh my … this morning we had -16°C :/

don't want to go out

Tom Wijsman

Well, you'll feel warm if you read the temperatures here.

slhck

2:18 PM

Hm, they also have -16 now :P

Tom Wijsman

Flemish late twenty leaves top job at Facebook for his girlfriend.

Simon Sheehan

Hmm, I figured out my router's heat problem

It's processor runs at 300Mhz, but Cisco had overclocked it to 384.

Journeyman Geek

o0

Simon Sheehan

That explains the heat and weird performance at times

Tom Wijsman

slhck

2:33 PM

@TomWijsman hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/…

Tom Wijsman

It's because you are writing for the blog, otherwise I wouldn't mention its mistake.

@slhck Okay, I agree that It's processor runs slow... :)

slhck

@TomWijsman Aaah, stop it!

Tom Wijsman

Or did he mean IT's processor? confuzzled :(

@SimonSheehan Our router reboots once a day, I did a lot of setting changing yesterday to attempt to fix that.

We now have only one network instead of two and the clients automatically pick the right one.

Simon Sheehan

Two networks?

@slhck meta.stackoverflow.com/q/121081/162522 Saw you commented on this... when do high rep users ever learn? sigh

Daniel Beck

@slhck Lame excuses for their own laziness. My browser knows that "maked" is not a word...

Tom Wijsman

2:38 PM

@SimonSheehan Wireless and Wireless N were the names, now it's just Wireless. One was 2.4 GHz, the other 5.2 GHz. Now one combines both.

Simon Sheehan

@TomWijsman Ah... weird. What router is this?

Tom Wijsman

@SimonSheehan Not weird, just DD-WRT's support to host separate networks on separate antennas if you router supports it.

But to answer your question: Linksys WRT610N

Simon Sheehan

Ah oky.

Tom Wijsman

Uptime 21 hours, looks fine, hope it can reach two days instead of doing its daily reboot...

Simon Sheehan

Interfaces Uptime and Traffic Count
LAN Uptime: 616h:12m:13s ,Receiving 1031412443 bytes , Sending 2155869772bytes
WAN Uptime: 112h:08m:15s ,Receiving 166720647 bytes , Sending 1012355663bytes

slhck

2:42 PM

@SimonSheehan Oh.. didn't see they were 12k

but SO is so different when it comes to that

Tom Wijsman

slhck

lots of high-rep users who don't know anything about running the site

Simon Sheehan

@slhck Yeah, their 12k on SO. He's got 200+ questions and 400+ answers, you'd think he would notice things by now.

If you spend that much time on the site, maybe you should take 5 minutes to learn how the place works

It boggles my mind

slhck

On the other hand, we have too few people with vote to delete privileges

Simon Sheehan

Well, SU is a bit smaller.

Daniel Beck

2:45 PM

@SimonSheehan 18 rep per post is pretty bad. Must be a lot of zero score stuff.

Simon Sheehan

@DanielBeck Yeah, It likely is.

Roman

12.9k 1 25 83

He's got a few OK answers, lots of 0 score questions.

slhck

Hm

superuser.com/questions/385121/…

William Hilsum

@tombull89 cool

Tom Wijsman

@slhck Indeed, I wonder why he made a more confusing diagram of it rather than just saying what he wants...

Daniel Beck

@SimonSheehan Studiohack has 17 rep per post on SU. Odd. Let's see if I can find something to vote on.

Simon Sheehan

2:59 PM

@DanielBeck Heh, interesting

Daniel Beck

@SimonSheehan In case you're bored: Data.SE query.

Simon Sheehan

Ill take a look in a minute :p

Tom Wijsman

23 rep per post, hmm, interesting...

Although it's more like "write some posts, hope that one gets 8 upvotes"

Simon Sheehan

splattne, South Tyrol, Italy

6.7k 2 27 56

windows mac osx windows-xp windows-7 windows-vista software-rec

Hes good on that query :p

Daniel Beck

@TomWijsman I think that's how splattne got #1. 5 or so very popular posts, and not that many posts total.

Although he really has a very large percentage of popular answers with 4+ votes.

slhck

3:03 PM

Average is a bad measure anyway

I'd love to see some quantiles

Daniel Beck

@slhck That query about exhausted my SQL-fu. Feel free to improve it.

slhck

@DanielBeck Haha, that was no personal request :) My SQL sucks.

Moshe

Ok, anyone know of a decent laptop for text editing that's not heavy and is under $350 at Best Buy?

(Localized)

Ok, let's take a step back.

slhck

Rank in a specific tag with percentile

DaSilva_Ireland

If varnish is running on a machine in front of my apache machine, will every http request still show up in apache's access log?

Moshe

3:08 PM

A cheap not-too-heavy laptop?

Simon Sheehan

@Moshe A netbook?

Daniel Beck

@slhck Wow. Yeah. Have fun.

Moshe

@SimonSheehan For word-processing?

Simon Sheehan

@Moshe Sure, why not - screens large enough that text will be fine, and its cheap. Word processing doesn't take much more than an atom CPU

Daniel Beck

@slhck Note that reputation has no meaningful percentiles, only scores have. So it's an entirely different thing.

slhck

3:10 PM

@DanielBeck Yeah, it's just a huge query, that's all :)

@DaSilva_Ireland Don't know how it's configured to work with Apache, but if it's a cache, the whole point would be that Apache doesn't have to serve the site again

@DaSilvaIreland If at all, it'd probably show you the IP of Varnish itself, rather than the remote IP.. See here: cd34.com/blog/scalability/varnish-and-apache2

Simon Sheehan

For all you windows experts, my friend just joined SU and has a question about the task-scheduler here..

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Q: Rebooting the machine via shutdown.exe triggers the Shutdown Event Tracker

I have a scheduled task that runs once a week which performs a simple reboot of the machine. The problem is that once the system is rebooted, it thinks that the last shutdown was unexpected and then it asks me to specify a reason for it. This is the command that the Task Scheduler runs: C:\Wind...

windows-server-2008 shutdown task-scheduler

DaSilva_Ireland

@slhck Cheers

HackToHell

Any good free steam games ??

Simon Sheehan

@HackToHell Basically no, besides Team Fortress 2

HackToHell

@SimonSheehan how big is it?

Simon Sheehan

3:21 PM

@HackToHell Well I think its 10GB or so now. 6GB download

HackToHell

6 GB !!! Anyway to download compressed and smaller

Simon Sheehan

Nope.

Steam's downloader is the only way.

HackToHell

gr8, steam sucks :P

Simon Sheehan

No it doesnt :P

Not at all

HackToHell

My internet connection is the one that actually sucks :'( My speed's 64 kbps

Simon Sheehan

3:24 PM

You really can't download any game in reasonable time on that connection

Might wanna upgrade or go to a friends and download

TF2 will need at least a 100kb/s connection to play anyway

Sathya

@HackToHell you mean 64KBps / 512Kbps

HackToHell

@Sathya yep :'(

Sathya

if it's the BSNL 750 plan, it's been upgraded to 1Mb till 6GB, 512k afterwords

and FUUUUUUUUUU VMWare

protip: Don't Download VMWare Player 4.0.2. Can't install VMWare tools on that version

HackToHell

@Sathya They changed the plan !! i did not know that I get 1 Mbps till 6 gb

Sathya

it's as of today

HackToHell

3:30 PM

@Sathya So it will be implemented from the next month ?? cause i do not see a speed increase

slhck

Okay, Word, seriously, why would you suggest me to not put a space behind a comma?

Sathya

@HackToHell you should be seeing it

Daniel Beck

@slhck Haha

slhck

@DanielBeck Have you ever used Word for Mac?

HackToHell

@Sathya i will call up BSNL in the morning and ask, what are you using Airtel ? They do not have decent unlimited plans

Sathya

3:36 PM

which circle are you in?

it's enabled only for limited circles.

Daniel Beck

@slhck Installed it to get the fonts. Does that count?

Sathya

I'm using BSNL, Airtel doesn't provide in this area @HackToHell

HackToHell

@Sathya Tamil Nadu

slhck

@DanielBeck Haha … no :) But I can see why you wouldn't want to go through the pains of actually workng with it.

Daniel Beck

@slhck It breaks keyboard shortcut reassignments and (AFAIK) services. So it's just crap software without proper platform integration. No thanks.

HackToHell

3:38 PM

@Sathya Are you using the 1350 ULD plan ?

slhck

@DanielBeck It's really the most horrible piece of software I've ever seen on OS X. If it were an unknown developer without resources, I'd understand the lack of platform integration. But on Office for Mac, everything's seriously beyond broken.

Not even the basic text input shortcuts work.

Daniel Beck

@slhck Why should they? NIH.

Journeyman Geek

@slhck: invariably, software written for other OSes by OS makers suck

slhck

My favorite policy.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Daniel Beck

3:39 PM

@slhck Let me guess, the emacs keybindings don't work either?

Journeyman Geek

o0

slhck

@DanielBeck Haha, what's "emacs"? This …… UNIX thing?

Daniel Beck

@JourneymanGeek I rather like Safari on Windows. Better than IE, at least.

Journeyman Geek

why would office have emacs keybindings?

slhck

No, they even break default Command / Option mappings for text movements

Daniel Beck

3:40 PM

@JourneymanGeek Every native text input field on OS X has emacs keybindings.

Journeyman Geek

@DanielBeck: the current one isn't bad. I'm a chrome/FF man myself

Daniel Beck

For movement, editing, etc.

slhck

It's actually the most productive thing I've ever used, and I miss it so bad on other OSes

Daniel Beck

@JourneymanGeek Chrome and FF have absolutely horrible OS integration (again) on OS X. So I'm stuck with Safari.

@slhck They broke Opt-Left etc?

Sathya

@HackToHell yes

slhck

3:42 PM

@DanielBeck These work in Word, but in Excel, opt-left does nothing at all. Cmd-left leaves the editing mode, et cetera.

and of course, no emacs bindings

Daniel Beck

@slhck Well, Pages breaks Opt-Left/Right as well in tables...

slhck

so when I want to go to the beginning of the cell, I have to use left to get back :)

no wait, that doesn't work either

I have to click, actually. Don't know of anything better :P

@DanielBeck Yeah, but at least the emacs bindings work there.

Sathya

:| get a BSOD whenever I try to copy a huge file to my external HDD

HackToHell

Amazon launched in India as Junglee ... it's funny junglee.com

Daniel Beck

@HackToHell We're in Beta

Who wants to buy something from a store in beta?

HackToHell

3:57 PM

lol

@DanielBeck It's highly undependable because amazon itself does not ship!

Tom Wijsman

@Sathya Feel free to upload the MEMORY.DMP or a minidump and I can look for you.

HackToHell

but smaller merchants...

Daniel Beck

1.2 crore products... that's 12 million, right?

HackToHell

yep

Sathya

@TomWijsman it's a huge file, ~670 MB uncompressed

it's not a store here

it's just a listing place

they don't sell yet

Daniel Beck

4:00 PM

@Sathya like eBay without auctions?

HackToHell

Like ebay

Sathya

@DanielBeck yes, that's how ebay is in India

On Thu 02-02-2012 15:42:36 GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\memory.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntkrnlmp.exe (nt!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x20F)
Bugcheck code: 0x7A (0xFFFFF6FC4000B960, 0xFFFFFFFFC000009D, 0x12EFB5860, 0xFFFFF8800172C944)
Error: KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR
Bug check description: This bug check indicates that the requested page of kernel data from the paging file could not be read into memory.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver which cannot be identified at this time.

@TomWijsman ^^ whocrashed output

Tom Wijsman

Seems like it locks somewhere, and that's what I need the file for. :D

Sathya

well, 7zipped it's 87 Mb :\

Tom Wijsman

Or alternatively do it over TeamViewer on your computer.

Sathya

4:04 PM

sounds good

Tom Wijsman

Yeah, some parts of memory are repetitive.

slhck

it gets better and better

superuser.com/questions/385121/…

Daniel Beck

@slhck Well, at least you tried. Some are a lost cause.

slhck

I really believe this site needs some sort of … test for people before they can post here :/

any experienced Windows user who understands that answer?

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A: Install Windows XP on a removable hard drive

Use VMware for installing the Operating System. So that it can be movable easily. VMware Player The Easiest Way to Run a Virtual Machine

Simon Sheehan

@slhck Honestly, it doesn't answer the question very well

slhck

4:12 PM

Why would I need to run VMware Player (and where?!) if I wanted to install Windows on an external HD?

Simon Sheehan

You don't - this guys confused

I really don't like the whole Virtual machine thing lately

slhck

Obviously, yeah

Simon Sheehan

Because every other answer is becoming "DO IT IN A VM BLAH BLAH BLAH"

HackToHell

@SimonSheehan It's fun

slhck

@HackToHell It's no fun :(

Simon Sheehan

4:13 PM

@HackToHell Not if you want good performance.

HackToHell

@slhck Common guys .. running Linux from Windows 7 is really time saving @SimonSheehan

slhck

@HackToHell Running an operating system with a Unix foundation is time saving :P

Okay, enough with the trolling.

Simon Sheehan

Running Linux from Windows 7 is the worst for me :/

HackToHell

@slhck :P @SimonSheehan why ?? 0_O

Simon Sheehan

@HackToHell I find Windows 7 uses a ridiculous amount of RAM, and then the VM uses more than it's supposed to. In the end, I just get annoyed.

HackToHell

4:17 PM

@SimonSheehan 7 runs under 500 mb of RAM and VM usually uses up 1~1.5 gigs of RAM ... that's not bad

Simon Sheehan

@HackToHell Not for me - Fresh install, and it uses 700+ MB of RAM.

I wish we hadn't left Windows XP :(

HackToHell

@SimonSheehan Don't ya worry according to Steven Sinofsky, 8 uses less memory @TomWijsman you use 8 right ? How much mem does it use?

Simon Sheehan

By the time Windows 8 comes out, I will have left Windows.

Tom Wijsman

Well, more than they showed.

But I believe they showed the DP --> Beta memory, not the DP memory.

2.2 GB now, let me see how it's divided.

Simon Sheehan

In a year and a half or so, I move to Mac.

HackToHell

4:21 PM

2.2 gigs ### ! @SimonSheehan Run to Linux

Daniel Beck

@SimonSheehan Reinforcements for osx \o/

Simon Sheehan

@DanielBeck Haha yeah - I'm slowly moving in! :P

Since I spend a lot of school time on (my) iMac, its giving me some more experience

HackToHell

Never used a Mac b4

Simon Sheehan

When I go to college, they actually REQUIRE you to get a Macbook for the course im going into

Daniel Beck

@SimonSheehan What course is it?

Tom Wijsman

4:23 PM

HackToHell

@SimonSheehan Tie up with apple ? :P

Simon Sheehan

@DanielBeck Multimedia Design. One sec.

@DanielBeck durhamcollege.ca/programs/multimedia-design

Daniel Beck

@SimonSheehan OK, makes some sense, if they use software only available for OS X etc.

HackToHell

like Final Cut ??

Daniel Beck

@SimonSheehan "You will also work extensively in our mobile and MAC labs" omg

Simon Sheehan

4:24 PM

@DanielBeck Well all the adobe products are transitioning to 64-Bit only, and it apparently performs better on Mac. The course uses mostly adobe products

Tom Wijsman

Simon Sheehan

@DanielBeck Haha I saw that.

I think that parts a bit old

Daniel Beck

@SimonSheehan Isn't it nice, you have media access control labs :)

Simon Sheehan

@DanielBeck :P

HackToHell

@TomWijsman I too run F.Lux

Tom Wijsman

4:25 PM

Simon Sheehan

@DanielBeck here are the laptop requirements

Apple Macintosh laptop (Apple MacBook Pro 15-inch base configuration) with:

Intel Core i7 2.0 GHz or faster;
4 GB of memory minimum;
500 GB hard drive or larger;
15-inch display or larger;
Radeon HD 6490 M graphics with 256MB GDDR5 or better; and
AppleCare protection Plan for MacBook Pro is highly recommended (auto-enrol).

Daniel Beck

@SimonSheehan Still, they're available on Windows. I don't see the need.

Simon Sheehan

"Apple Macintosh" kinda made me laugh.

Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell Yeah, first times I didn't get used to it. Now it runs fluently without me getting bothered.

Simon Sheehan

@DanielBeck There's a reason behind it, I can't remember why. I know it's definitely something to do with the Adobe master collection though (which they give to you for free)

Daniel Beck

4:27 PM

@SimonSheehan This is insane. What possible reason could there be to get a 15" instead of a 13"...

@SimonSheehan OK, maybe only licensed for Macs. Would make sense.

Simon Sheehan

@DanielBeck Pixels. Graphics work sucks on a small screen :P

HackToHell

@TomWijsman My mom insists on running it ... do not know where she read abt it.

Daniel Beck

@SimonSheehan Get a 27" screen then.

Or are you working on your own machine in some lab there?

Simon Sheehan

@DanielBeck Haha. Honestly, I'm not going to argue with it - I do want a Mac :p

Ivo Flipse

Do SU a favor and upvote this piece of crap: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3543318

Simon Sheehan

4:29 PM

@DanielBeck Honestly, no idea - I don't go to the school for another year or two

brb, lunch\

Ivo Flipse

@DanielBeck I would love a 27 inch Mac screen, but the price tag is rather painful and its not really compatible with Windows

Daniel Beck

@IvoFlipse Get a Dell. Problem solved.

Ivo Flipse

@DanielBeck I didn't expect that out of your mouth ;P

Daniel Beck

@IvoFlipse Why? Dell make good, cheap(er) screens.

Ivo Flipse

I know, I'm looking at one right now. Though my cheap ass Acer seems better (might be calibration though)

HackToHell

4:32 PM

:P

Daniel Beck

I'm pretty happy with mine.

Ivo Flipse

It seems most 27 inch screens are LED, wonder if it matters

ah crap, that Dell. That's the same MF as the Mac screens, only slightly cheaper

Tom Wijsman

@IvoFlipse I forgot my password. o_O

Daniel Beck

@IvoFlipse ?

Ivo Flipse

@TomWijsman I couldn't get my openid set up there either

I thought it was a 1080p screen, but the 2560 x 1440 ones are more than twice as expensive

Daniel Beck

4:36 PM

@IvoFlipse Still much cheaper than Apple's

523€ vs. 891€ in Germany.

Ivo Flipse

that Dell 523?

its 832 euro on the Dutch dell site

if it were 523, I'd seriously consider it

Daniel Beck

@IvoFlipse geizhals.de/505885 ... 523€ + shipping

And as you can see, not just one store.

Iszi

Pardon me here...

Ivo Flipse

holy crap

Iszi

How do I summon Clippy?

Ivo Flipse

4:39 PM

That aught to do it :P

Iszi

Damnit, @IvoFlipse. You got in the picture!

Daniel Beck

@IvoFlipse I paid 544€ on Amazon mid december.

@IvoFlipse Getting a new screen?

Ivo Flipse

I want a 3rd screen

I'm sick of alt tabbing all day long

Tom Wijsman

My second screen is rather small (uses it to watch chat.SE when not in his browser)

Ivo Flipse

I have 2 x 22 inch screens

Daniel Beck

4:43 PM

@IvoFlipse 1680x1050?

Ivo Flipse

yeah

but I'm not planning on sticking with these smaller ones

still that high res screen is perhaps a bit too overpriced, given that I also need to buy a second GPU (stupid Nvidia doesn't power more than 2 screens)

Daniel Beck

@IvoFlipse Get 24" 1920x1200 then. They're also quite nice and might have more value for the money.

@slhck The user accepted my Automator workflow answer!

Ivo Flipse

My first thought was a 27 inch with that resolution, but it given that I don't get more pixels, it might be a good idea not to (won't gain any pixels anyway)

Tom Wijsman

pastebin.com/JdjqViGq

Hmm, have any of these values changed between the upper and lower half?

Dunno how to do check that quickly.

Is there a text editor or something where I can paste in the left and right parts and compare? :D

Oh... diffnow.com

Awesome!

No differences, seems my algorithm is somehow not executing. :D

How do I
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|__██♔██__██__██
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?

Daniel Beck

@IvoFlipse I never saw the point of bigger pixels. I can see good enough to handle the smaller screens with a particular resolution.

Tom Wijsman

4:54 PM

5

Multi line Clippy <3. :)

Daniel Beck

@slhck Another one.

Ivo Flipse

@DanielBeck exactly, besides it only takes up more space, give me cramps in my neck and all :P

Tom Wijsman

@DanielBeck Well, he did partially fix it; I fixed it some more so it could be considered to be reopened...

We collided into each other edits though, the revision history is kinda weird. superuser.com/posts/385239/revisions :D

Daniel Beck

5:10 PM

@TomWijsman Just a few more and it's CW ;)

Tom Wijsman

Yeah, he went back to my revision which I didn't saw, I thought he want back to an earlier revision of him so that was kinda confusing so I just went back to mine and edited in his title change.

Daniel Beck

@JourneymanGeek Congrats on finally getting an answer to your 500 bounty question!

studiohack

@DanielBeck @SimonSheehan interesting stat... I don't know a whole lot, so many of my answers aren't that great or are pretty low zero score stuff

Simon Sheehan

@studiohack I'm MADE of 0 score answers ;)

studiohack

@SimonSheehan wow really? my fastest rep gain ever on SE is now outdoors... 1K rep in 8 days. shatters anything else I've done

Daniel Beck

5:21 PM

@studiohack Isn't it always like this in the early days of a site?

Simon Sheehan

@studiohack Haha, nice! I think my rep grows fastest on MSO

Daniel Beck

I mean when you check out the topics on SU from '09, the votes are ridiculous...

studiohack

@DanielBeck you're right, because all the easy questions are there

I get tons of votes asking if iodine water purification tabs are okay and only a few on a lengthy post about identifying bears (with pictures, bullets and the whole shebang)

Daniel Beck

@studiohack Check the sidebar. 21h ago by slhck.

studiohack

@DanielBeck I know, I read that a number of times

sadly, it's very true

Daniel Beck

5:30 PM

@studiohack Well, what's your solution?

studiohack

@DanielBeck frankly, I don't have one. on the q&a level, I'm just another user, like the rest of ya

Daniel Beck

Maybe we could do something like "Question of the Week", but focusing on good answers. Just a (CW?) Meta topic with links to interesting, detailed answers that actually explain stuff instead of linking to a downloads page or only containing an unexplained code snippet.

The Wall of Text Awareness Topic!

sidran32

Hi

Tom Wijsman

Well, it's what is explained in this:

Stack Overflow Blog: The Trouble With Popularity

Posted by Jeff Atwood on January 31st, 2012

Way back in 2008, we had Alexis Ohanian and Steve Huffman, the founders and co-creators of Reddit, on the Stack Overflow podcast. We chatted about a bunch of stuff, but one of the things they said that always stuck with me was that Reddit always took an explicitly hands-off, no moderation approach to their content from the very beginning.

I found that a bit shocking, since I’ve… never seen that work. Certainly on Stack Overflow and Stack Exchange we are very much pro-moderation — and more so with every passing year. We have literally hundreds of community moderators. We spend …

sidran32

Do we think that anything needs to be done for this question (regarding moving/editing/etc)?

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Q: Does the command-line copy command work in 64-bit Windows?

I am automating a script which includes: copy \\192.168.0.200\exportfiles\customersbysalesperson.csv %USERPROFILE%\Documents The customer responded to me saying: The PCO session A command prompt screen comes up. It says "The syntax of the command is incorrect. Press any key to return." I ...