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12:12 AM
@Bob lol
 
12:31 AM
how to set a default starting directory for recovery console
so it starts in %userprofile%\user1\desktop
 
Bob
12:45 AM
@corsiKa lol - I forgot a suitable preamble: No you can not... lest you be fond of self-devouring turbmachinery with a dangerous taste for spontaneous, violent and messy disintegration. — yankeekilo 6 hours ago
 
1:04 AM
cant you run scripts in recovery console
gah
typing full paths constantly is horrible
 
Bob
@CMDEmu cd /d C:\Blah
 
it has spaces in the path
maybe I dont need to use RC at all
crap, nope I have to
unless I do it from another pc
that may work
 
Bob
1:21 AM
cd /d "C:\Blah blah"
 
cant I have two vms and have a HDD shared between them
well, a .vdi file
 
nope
latest EEVblog is hilarious.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek what is it about?
(can't watch now)
 
1:40 AM
how the heck wont it overwrite the file!!!
Im saying to Z:\ but it wont overwrite the file cus its 'in use'
it is on the other computer yeah but not this one
 
Maybe the other computer is using it! :O
 
but why cant it overwrite it still
 
You try and overwrite a document that's already open. Windows ain't gonna be happy about it.
 
but its not the same windows as what is using the file
that one is logged off
 
@Bob "energy saving wipes"
 
1:44 AM
What files are you trying to overwrite?
 
Apparently some singaporean company has a product that claims to save energy if you wipe it all over your circuit breaker box
 
what am I supposed to do now
 
@MichaelFrank I think he's done that
 
@JourneymanGeek Does is also claim to provide balance?
!!wiki power balance
 
1:47 AM
Power Balance is a brand of hologram bracelets once claimed by its manufacturers and vendors to "use holographic technology" to "resonate with and respond to the natural energy field of the body", and increase sporting ability. Numerous independent studies of the device found it to be ineffective for enhancing athletic performance, and the manufacturer was forced to retract its claims in 2010. The product was promoted through paid celebrity endorsements and became a fad among professional sportsmen in 2010, leading one journalist to say that "a growing number of professional sportsmen and their...
 
nope
it just aligns the electrons going into your house
 
Oooooh, monster cable, is it?
 
I wonder what's inside those EMF Neutralisers...
 
this is why I wanted the drive to be LOCAL on BOTH
COMPUTERS
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy quite literally a pack of wet wipes
 
1:48 AM
F@#$@#% YOU WINDOWS UPDATE
 
@MichaelFrank prolly a SMPS which makes noise, and an LED ;p
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy FATHER YOU WINDOWS UPDATE?
FAMILIAR?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek wut.
 
@Bob uttrt dnstk
 
At this point I feel I am playing error code bingo with Windows Update.
 
1:50 AM
@MichaelFrank hm. Or mud
 
Run, error, google, reboot, fix, reboot, run, different error, reboot, rinse, repeat.
 
Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy Have you tried going to 8.1 yet?
Or that old version of WSUS Offline?
 
@MichaelFrank Bluescreen, I am your father.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ?!
 
@MichaelFrank great. Now amazon will send me links to new age woo woo.
 
1:51 AM
@Bob I still haven't determined which specific updates allows me to upgrade to 8.1
 
@Bob I have no idea what I just tried to say ;p
 
@Bob The official site only offers the latest version (I think)
@JourneymanGeek I think he said "uttrt dnstk".
 
Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy There's a whole list of old downloads on the right...
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy I watched an interview was Mark Hamill the other day. Apparently that scene was scripted and filmed as "No Luke, Obi-wan killed your father." Only 4 people knew what the real line was gonna be.
 
Bob
!!tell 29106865 google windows 8.1 upgrade prerequisites
 
I know what to do just reboot the stupid target PC and overwrite it just as it boots (before it locks the file again)
 
OWNED
 
@Bob Let me do it the hard way, now it's become a matter of principles stupidity!
 
Bob
Which says
> Although the Windows 8.1 update is downloaded and installed from the Store, your PC needs Windows updates, KB 2871389 and KB 2917499, before Windows 8.1 becomes available to you in the Store.
 
1:53 AM
@CMDEmu Valid method. We do that here occasionally.
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank Eh... pull the disk, attach as extra drive, done.
 
@Bob Hard to do remotely ;)
 
Only 65 updates to go from 185, after all :P
Gotta catch them all!
 
Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy Considering Win8 is completely out of support, I'm not sure why you're even bothering.
You'll get zero security updates.
 
woo
 
Bob
1:55 AM
Actually from the last year too, so any vulns discovered from 2015 onwards will be forever unpatched.
@MichaelFrank That's what the onsite tech is for!
Or the hypervisor.
Or the OOB management.
 
@Bob Eh... we don't have onsite techs.
Well, we do. But they are external and get paid by the hour... so if we call them it's to replace the entire machine, not fiddle around with the innards.
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank hypervisor, oob
 
2:11 AM
Oh, I was talking end user, not server.
 
2:24 AM
@MichaelFrank guy said there is a thin coat of mud in that EMF nutralising plug which costs $50 :-O . does that mean it is grounded :-) and if they used holy water to make the mud , it could also protect against ghosts, vampires and werewolves.
Because emf is real, unlike some hypocondria that some placebo (sugar pill) would be given for , i do not see how they can legally sell this as even homeopathic , by definition homeopathic (anyway) would be eminating its own EMF , in small quantities. So i call it Fraud Fraud , and shame on amazon to be party to distrubute such things.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Homeopathic would be impossible because emf is not tangible
But 'alternative' maybe
I wonder if they comply with emc standards :P
 
2:41 AM
yea alternative might work, because that covers everything from quackery to street drugs , and would be an alternative to actually changing anything :-)
put these on your eyes , and it solves the problem of crowsfeet :-)
Solve global warming with an ice tray :-)
 
2:57 AM
Dessoert?
 
agg to big, but cure cancer with painted silver and quartz
 
That spelt Rhodochrosite three different ways...
 
the specific claims (only) would be enough to get this item pulled, if they buffered the claims it could pass.
So much fraud so little time
 
can I have a delay in a batch job
time delay
 
timeout /T 2 > NUL
where 2 is the time in seconds.
there are also sleep.exe items in existance that are the same thing.
Or you can ping :-PPPP
because you cannot always get timing correct, it might be better in a batch to instead /Wait for an item to complete, or various error checking to determine when to proceed. after all we wouldnt want the DEL `*.* to precede the completion of the copy with no error. and stuff like that.
 
3:23 AM
yeah my dhcp lease expires daily
is that why my wifi connection keeps randomly disconnecting
when I try and make my IP static windows no longer connects to any websites
I cant get into the router settings so easily
 
all i know is sometimes when you set up static addressing the far away client thing can require to have specified a DNS server also?
 
@CMDEmu Why not?
Also, you need to set a Gateway and DNS for a static IP.
 
I did
I made it what it was when my ip was dynamic
 
So why can't you get into the router?
 
I dont know the password
I can reset it to the default password but that would reset the settings too
 
3:34 AM
What happens if you set your IP to something that wasn't handed out via DHCP?
 
same thing
ill try again in a sec
 
safespaceprotection.com/product/emf-adapter $300 emf fixer with all the (fraud) science to back it up. Dont buy the cheap china knock-off get screwed by the real thing.
I am recovering my DNA as we speak :-)
> Can I measure the effectiveness of the Adapter with my EMF meter?

No current EMF meters are sensitive enough to show a change. We prefer that you apply the happiness chart we have given you and to assign an approprite happy face to the results. remember it can now take 2times as long to heat things up in the microwave :-)
 
3:56 AM
I wonder if they need to be powered... What would happen if I secretly switched your EMF device off?
 
no, it isnt working @MichaelFrank
 
@CMDEmu shrug I dunno man. Your router could be configured any number of ways to prevent that.
 
Does anyone know how to work out what the average time is to answer a question? I hang out in the Unanaswered/Newest area mostly, and in the sidebar it says how many questions aren't answered. On the main question page it shows how many questions exist. I am thinking that for someone new visiting the site, deciding whether to bother creating an account and asking their question, then it might be better to show a statistic about how quickly questions are answered.
 
/smashes router
/smashes computer
fuck it
goodbye!
 
dude. Language/
bye!
 
4:09 AM
@Paul You might be able to wrangle the Data SE site into getting you that info.
Seems there's a bunch of queries around that already.
Seems to be just over a day?
 
Yeah, I was running the first one and it seemed to be suggesting it was 740 hours to the first answer :)
29 hours is better .
 
ha, it's all about the keywords :P
 
I think if I saw that I could get an answer to my question in a day, I'd be inclined to give it a go
 
@Paul I imagine the SE guys have thought about a "time to answer" metric, but it could cause issues with people developing unrealistic expectations on when they were going to get an answer.
"HI MY PUTER IS NO GO" is not going to get answered, but equally unlikely to get answered quickly is a great question Draco posted yesterday about PCL3e interactions with his printer.
 
4:28 AM
@MichaelFrank How about a "How can I get a fast answer" link underneath the stat that leads to the "How to ask a good question" help text? Ultimately, we want people to participate, and we accept that people don't always ask good questions. Setting an expectation, then explaining how you can get your question to meet the expectations may reduce the amount of low quals.
 
@Paul You got 1 chance , to be on the top of the first lists, use it wisely by providing all the information, being really clear, and formatting it well.
telling them they will get a "fast answer" is IMO fraud.
 
@Paul Good point actually, we might get fewer Low Quality questions simply by displaying a estimated time to answer stat.
 
at least 50% of the questions, it doesnt matter how hard they work on them, may never be answered. Solve that by having 10,000 more users sticking around answering things they are very familliar with , or just got done doing themselves.
 
4:45 AM
.
 
5:03 AM
Ouch! If I'm barefoot and touch the bottom of my laptop while it's charging, I get a shock... :/
 
You could always apply for the job of the person who checks for that naukri.com/…
 
sue the laptop manufacturers
manufacturer*
just say that your kid got zapped and had to go to hospital
or pet
why not, everybody is doing it one way or another
trying to grab money
its normal if everybody does it
 
5:26 AM
that... doesn't happen in India
plus I don't have a kid considering that I'm not even 15 :P
here, the case is goanna go on for like a decade in court until you finally just drop the charges...
 
here they would sue just because it messed up that ladies Hair Doo
and it would still take 3-4 years
 
@Paul that sonds like an awesome meta question
 
5:43 AM
@RahulBasu In this countrythat'd be pretty late already
 
Bob
@Caterina'Catty'McCatface Oh, thought you were talking about the UK for a second :P
 
Bob
o.O
 
I dunno what the teenage pregnancy stats are like for Thailand but Scotland has one of the highest in Yurop
 
@Caterina'Catty'McCatface wow... I do not know what to say...
 
5:53 AM
@RahulBasu Wow would have been sufficient
 
@Psycogeek Surely that is just about phrasing it right. "How to ask great questions that may or may not lead to a fast answer"
 
6:09 AM
"These are some of the attributes of questions that are answered quickly"
 
6:29 AM
0
Q: Provide "Average time to answer" stat to new visitors

PaulIn the sidebar of SU there are various stats on the different pages about Questions - questions without answers, count of questions. According to this the time to answer a question monthly average is around a day. If I am a new user, coming to SU and haven't found an answer to my question, I ha...

 
7:24 AM
@Paul yes increase your chances of a fast answer, or ANY answer at all :-)
 
7:54 AM
yawn
/me sleepy :(
 
8:13 AM
how do i make a shortcut execute as a different user
runas didn't work D:
 
 
2 hours later…
10:06 AM
@JourneymanGeek User admits to cracking paid software. What is an appropriate response?
 
@DavidPostill link?
 
See comments to my answer superuser.com/a/1064969/337631
Hmm. That should onebox :/
Someone has deleted the comments
 
OP realises it was dumb ;p
 
Note he is promoting a link to the cracked software in his answer
0
A: K9 web protection, trying to delete it

PrivateWhy delete K9 without the Admin Password when you can easily bypass it? There are many tools to bypass the admin prompt and uninstall. One notable tool is Konboot. Unfortunately, it is a paid software ($15) but you can get a pirated version here. Using the pirated version of the software is ille...

 
10:11 AM
@JourneymanGeek And he's now denying it in a new comment to my answer.
Perhaps some wet noodles are in order? ;)
 
!!is the bot dead again
 
!!info
@Caterina'Catty'McCatface It would appear so :/
 
10:18 AM
test
I'm not dead!
 
!!are you sure you're not dead
 
@DavidPostill edited and mod messaged.
 
I do seem to have gone deaf.
 
Bob
Hm. Broken websocket perhaps? shrug
 
10:20 AM
Time for a nap.
I have just been restarted! This happens daily automatically, or when my owner restarts me. Ready for commands.
 
Bob
!!info
 
It's become sentient and decided to ignore the rules of its programming?
 
@Bob I awoke on Tue, 19 Apr 2016 10:23:12 GMT (that's about 8 seconds ago), haven't done anything yet!
 
Bob
@Caterina'Catty'McCatface lol, nah, I dropped in to see what was going on... the REPL still (kinda) works
not sure why it wasn't receiving/parsing commands and I cbf digging into that... easier to just restart him
 
@Bob Phew
Skynet averted.
 
10:27 AM
@JourneymanGeek Thanks
 
not sure if a redaction is appropriate.
 
Bob
@HackToHell "some very tricky networking and iptables rules to remotely mount an iSCSI device" <== actually, reading the details, that's some fairly basic iptables stuff...
 
Yeah, noticed that
Ars needs better writers ;p
 
10:44 AM
@HackToHell ars hasn't been the same since they went corporate
 
Oh, too bad :/
 
(also, they lost hannibal. Their cpu architecture reviews has never been the same)
 
11:00 AM
My mom never put any babysitting programs on my PC(s)
 
The cooler looks rad hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/…
@JourneymanGeek What place is good these days
 
11:13 AM
@HackToHell haven't really found anything as good
tech report isn't bad
 
@Bob Yeah that bit made me go lol as well
"very tricky networking and iptables rules" => "Port forward"
@HackToHell Nah, nothing to do with Ars
It was a direct quote from a security consultant.
Dan Tentler, CEO of Phobos Group, which does attack simulation as a service, told Ars [..] "There were two distinct things this guy did that were impressive," Tentler said. "1) writing a zero-day for an embedded Linux device, and 2) some very tricky networking and iptables rules to remotely mount an iSCSI device, through the compromised embedded device, so that some virtual machine he had out on the Internet could read data on a NAS."
Granted, Ars should have told him to go forth and multiply found someone else to interview after that quote but meh.
 
11:40 AM
CEO...
Phobos group? i guess they some instrusion 'experts' ?
intrusion*
 
12:31 PM
"I need an airport transfer tomorrow"
"Sure, what time is your flight?"
"Umm, lemme check... ooops... looks like I forgot to book one... brb"
 
@Caterina'Catty'McCatface lol
 
 
1 hour later…
1:41 PM
I wonder what's the best way to take a string like 4*5+1
and compute the result in java
Wish there was a eval() in java ;p
 
@HackToHell Use JavaScript ;)
Joking aside see:
153
Q: Evaluating a math expression given in string form

ShahI'm trying to write a Java routine to evaluate simple math expressions from String values like: "5+3" "10-40" "10*3" I want to avoid a lot of if-then-else statements. How can I do this?

 
It's for an Android App
I have my examination tomorrow
And we have a mobile app development lab
lemme
 
Plenty of alternatives in the answers to that question.
 
I don't think I'll be allowed internet access
Hmm
Will either have to sneak a jar on the local network
 
Bob
@HackToHell Token parser! :P
 
1:47 PM
or just write a basic one
@Bob Have to look at lex and yacc tomorrow
Compiler lab :/
Will get into the whole business then
I could tokenize
Then push to a stack
Pull out on a =
 
public static double eval(final String str) {
return new Object() {
int pos = -1, ch;

void nextChar() {
ch = (++pos < str.length()) ? str.charAt(pos) : -1;
}

boolean eat(int charToEat) {
while (ch == ' ') nextChar();
if (ch == charToEat) {
nextChar();
return true;
}
return false;
}

double parse() {
nextChar();
double x = parseExpression();
if (pos < str.length()) throw new RuntimeException("Unexpected: " + (char)ch);
return x;
}

// Grammar:
// expression = term | expression `+` term | expression `-` term
 
Bob
shrug it ends up being a fairly trivial string parsing exercise if you don't care about order of operations
if you do care.. bleh.
 
78 lines of code
 
Bob
...that's very ugly code too
 
@Bob lol
 
Bob
1:49 PM
manual comparison with characters? bleh.
isDigit() please
 
I don't think order matters, or I'll show a simple expression
evil grin
 
Bob
@HackToHell if you don't care about order then it's really easy
and you can also regex your way out of it :P
 
Yeah, I'll do something that simply works for a +/-* b
That should be simple enough
goes away to understand regex
 
Bob
if it matches /[^0-9*/+\-]/ then it's invalid
alternatively, if it matches /^[0-9*/+\-]*$/ then it's valid
from there you run in a loop
match on /^\s*(\d+)\s*([*/+\-]|$)?/
First capture group will be the number, second will be the operator (or empty if end)
 
Cool
Let me try
 
Bob
1:54 PM
lemme get a fiddle up :P
 
wat
@Bob let's race ;p
On further thought, I would rather not compete
 
Bob
@HackToHell No fair, my FF is lagging :(
 
It's been too long since I used java
 
Bob
oh and you're low on RAM
okthen :P
 
Windows thinks I am but there's enough free RAM weord
bleh back to the problem
ignores huge yellow triangle
 
Bob
1:58 PM
@HackToHell that's probably low virtual address space
increase your page file size
or show the commit column and close anything using an excessive amount of it
 
Commit size for chrome is 2.2 GB ...
And rammap isn't working
 
"There should be a short, concise answer to these infections." - No two infections are created the same, it is much easier to have one question that covers a broad spectrum of problems. There is more variants of malware then there is humans on the planet. — Ramhound 14 mins ago
;)
 
Bob
@HackToHell lol, I got sidetracked... starting now :P
 
And I'm downloading rammap ...
goes back to work
 
@Ramhound Please pay more attention. The answer is 1/ posted by the OP 2/ It does answer his own question. — DavidPostill 31 secs ago
 
Ta da
rudimentary parser
Copied over from several SO answers
works for a very tailored input :D
 
does it parse xml?
 
2:28 PM
How can I add 2 different code snippets to my comment? When I edit a comment I don't see that option. Thanks
 
@JourneymanGeek I think that's a joke
But I can't tell
 
@mlegg more or less
@mlegg I'd be suprised if you could even add one
comments arn't really meant for anything other than very short statements
 
why is that? I've been commenting an answering for a while
I was told a while ago to add comments by someone rather than making answers all the time
 
hmm
Basically, comments are the one thing that gets less respect than chat ;p
@mlegg for effective code snippers you need linebreaks
 
I copied the code from a page view-source:fofwebdesign.co.uk/template/_testing/grid-img-rwd-02.htm from styles down. I put the html in the html spot and the css in the css spot.
but now that answer is deleted
 
Bob
2:42 PM
Ow. That took a while.
stupid regex
no order of operations, just left-to-right, but order of op wouldn't be too hard to implement tbh
supports such funny constructs as 123 - -123 (== 0)
also non-integers :P
try 5648 * 54964 / 5464 - 8974 + 4848 / -6489 * 6484 :P
 
I don't have enough rep to see deleted answers on Stack Overflow.
Edit the ANSWER...don't keep adding comments, — Paulie_D 32 mins ago
 
ok thanks for trying. It looks like my status is commentor
 
Bob
@mlegg You need to find a balance.
Too many comments are bad.
But too brief answers are also not great.
 
@Paulii_D sorry. I'm somewhat new to stack overflow. I've been doing website since 97. I'm just trying to help people.
 
You seem to be adding code in comments, instead of editing your answer.
 
Bob
2:51 PM
Oh. If you already have an answer, definitely edit it!
 
I wanted to post 2 different codes but I can't seem to figure that out
 
Bob
Comments are specifically for requesting clarification, or making suggestions.
@mlegg Put both in the answer. Just need to separate them with a little block of text.
 
@mlegg You already have two answers to that question. Are they meant to be different answers?
 
so I should just post 2 different answers?
 
liar
 
Bob
2:52 PM
@mlegg Only if the two answers offer different solutions.
 
@Paulie_D yes 2 differnt codes
so I can make an answer and put in 2 codes just with text between them??
 
@mlegg Paulie_D isn't present in this chat room so you aren't talking to him.
 
cat room?
 
Bob
0
A: Formatting Sandbox

BobThis is to give someone an example of multiple code blocks. console.log(1); <div></div> console.log(2); <div></div>

 
You are talking to @Bob or @DavidPostill
 
Bob
2:54 PM
This is to give someone an example of multiple code blocks.

<!-- begin snippet: js hide: false -->

<!-- language: lang-js -->

    console.log(1);

<!-- language: lang-html -->

    <div></div>

<!-- end snippet -->


<!-- begin snippet: js hide: false -->

<!-- language: lang-js -->

    console.log(2);

<!-- language: lang-html -->

    <div></div>

<!-- end snippet -->
 
@JourneymanGeek Apt typo :p
 
@mlegg I'm starting to think there's a deeper misunderstanding of how stuff here works
 
Bob
You can insert text in between them to make it clearer that they're separate. Ideally, you should explain what the code snippet does.
 
@Bob ha
I went for a simpler one
 
OK thank you.
 
2:55 PM
Tried to understand your regex
 
Bob
@HackToHell eh, this is simple! :P
 
No progress about 5 mins in
 
Bob
It doesn't do order of operations!
@HackToHell The regex I put in chat wasn't ideal -_-
Changed it to match operator before number
 
(you can only @ people on chat who have been here recently)
 
So I gave up and used [0-9]+|[*/+-]
 
2:56 PM
@mlegg also, one liner answers arn't typically well recieved, and a SO specific chatroom might be better equipped to give you advice on chat culture
 
@Bob I wonder how GCC does it
 
I know how
 
Bob
@HackToHell Standard simple way is parsing it into RPN form which is then easy to calculate by popping off a stack
 
this ^
 
@HackToHell A real ---HackToHell---hacker would allow [A-F] as well to do hex calcs ;)
 
2:57 PM
@Bob yeaah, I remember learning how to convert into that notation
 
Bob
In computer science, the shunting-yard algorithm is a method for parsing mathematical expressions specified in infix notation. It can be used to produce either a postfix notation string, also known as Reverse Polish notation (RPN), or an abstract syntax tree (AST). The algorithm was invented by Edsger Dijkstra and named the "shunting yard" algorithm because its operation resembles that of a railroad shunting yard. Dijkstra first described the Shunting Yard Algorithm in the Mathematisch Centrum report MR 34/61. Like the evaluation of RPN, the shunting yard algorithm is stack-based. Infix expressions...
 
Hell I remember writing a parser for that conversion
@DavidPostill Unfortunately, HTH is still a noob :(
 
"The algorithm was invented by Edsger Dijkstra" - I though he wrote every possible algorithm ;)
 
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