Root Access

Rahul2001

12:01 AM

_.-:':-._

12:12 AM

@BenN @Burgi Don't use 8.3 names. Use UNC paths.

\\?\C:\some\long\path

Michael Frank

What if it's already a UNC?

Bob

IIRC you might need to toggle an option to get .NET to recognise longer ones.

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Rahul2001 without the screenshots

Bad pic, but one device doing another ain't too good

Rahul2001

@GypsySpellweaver Looks good!

@GypsySpellweaver heh, don't matter

Okay, deleting this in 4 seconds:

Gypsy Spellweaver

Good enough to see the "padding" you get for free from the phone's case.

Bob

12:16 AM

@GypsySpellweaver Don't rely on bezels.

See: S6 Edge, S7 Edge, S8

Rahul2001

@GypsySpellweaver got that?

Gypsy Spellweaver

:37579613 I'm too slow for this online stuff,

got it

Ben N

@Bob I think .NET might enforce the 260 character limit itself

I know .NET Core no longer does, but I don't know about the main .NET Framework

Bob

@BenN Yea, it's part of the app config. 4.6.2 should be able to.

oh wait, is that still win10 only? :S

Ben N

Yep

But at least it is true

Very good; I did not know about that before!

Bob

12:20 AM

@BenN Nope. Should work on Win7 blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/jeremykuhne/2016/06/21/…

    <AppContextSwitchOverrides value="Switch.System.IO.UseLegacyPathHandling=false;Switch.System.IO.BlockLongPaths=false" />

Ben N

Woah, I stand corrected. Neat!

Bob

Look at long path changes.

In CoreFX they automatically prepend \\?\ for you.

In 4.6.2 you still have to do it manually, but at least it works now.

Ben N

There is a bit of a problem yet for @MichaelFrank in that Windows 7's PowerShell is not 4.6.2 :/

Installing/building the dev version of PS would get around that

Bob

Hm. I only have 4.6.1 installed...

Odd.

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Rahul2001 Is the lack of input box intentional there?

Rahul2001

12:23 AM

@GypsySpellweaver where? on the edit file?

Gypsy Spellweaver

On gossipmonger. Both in firefox and on phone

Got it now. On phone only.

Ben N

@Bob Huh, what's up with that config snippet at the bottom? Did they backport the feature but make it off by default?

Bob

@BenN Yea. Well, no. It's on by default if you create a default app.config, but existing projects keep their current.

Ben N

Ah, so perhaps whacking the EXE a bit would make older PS opt in

Bob

@BenN Any idea how I can tell if I have 4.6.2 on Win7? :S

VS2017 has the target, but everything else I check suggests I only have 4.6.1...

Ben N

12:26 AM

Try building a 4.6.2 thing in VS and running it

Bob

lol

@BenN blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dotnet/2016/08/02/…

> You can opt applications that target an earlier version of the .NET Framework into using this functionality by setting an AppContext switch, as demonstrated in the following configuration file. The switch will only be honored when an application in running on the .NET Framework 4.6.2 (or later).

Ben N

Ah

Bob

@BenN blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/jeremykuhne/2016/06/09/…

> UPDATE: In the latest drop (14367) PowerShell opts into the new behaviors- the following config file isn’t necessary.

Ben N

So you will need newer .NET, but the app doesn't have to be built for the newest

Bob

> Drop a file called powershell.exe.config in C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0 with the following contents to opt in to one of the new 4.6.2 features (as PS doesn’t target 4.6.2):

@MichaelFrank Do this thing blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/jeremykuhne/2016/06/09/…

> However, it’s important to keep in mind that Windows is large not every API and component will support long paths but we consider those bugs at this point.

Nice.

Michael Frank

12:30 AM

Does that target Windows 10? I'm still on 7 here.

Ben N

You need to install .NET 4.6.2 and then I think it should work

microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=53345

I think that's the link anyway, Chrome refuses to load all microsoft.com pages :/

Bob

@MichaelFrank As long as you have 4.6.2 it should work, yea.

@BenN ??

worksforme

unless chrome's pulling some new bullshit this week

Ben N

It works in all other browsers and on my other machine

It's been going on for a couple weeks now

Bob

@BenN refuses to load how?

Ben N

Claims that microsoft.com unexpectedly closed the connection

Bob

12:34 AM

@BenN chrome://net-internals/#events

what's it say for MS?

@BenN also consider going to chrome://net-internals/#dns and clearing the cache

Ben N

t=52139 [st=  0] +REQUEST_ALIVE  [dt=327]
                  --> priority = "HIGHEST"
                  --> url = "http://www.microsoft.com/"
t=52139 [st=  0]    DELEGATE_INFO  [dt=1]
                    --> delegate_blocked_by = "NavigationResourceThrottle"
t=52140 [st=  1]   +URL_REQUEST_DELEGATE  [dt=1]
t=52140 [st=  1]      DELEGATE_INFO  [dt=1]
                      --> delegate_blocked_by = "extension uBlock Origin"
t=52141 [st=  2]   -URL_REQUEST_DELEGATE
t=52141 [st=  2]    URL_REQUEST_START_JOB  [dt=0]

DNS clearing doesn't help

Disabling uBlock Origin doesn't help

Bob

@BenN one sec lemme compare

It's so much harder to find cause I have a lot more events on a successful request :P

Michael Frank

We've been getting Internet Security prompts here regarding MS domains today. login.windows.net is trying to load login.microsoftonline.com from the Trusted Sites zone whenever someone opens anything Office 2013/2016 related.

Bob

@BenN tried clearing cache & MS cookies yet?

@BenN also, tried a new Chrome profile or incognito?

Ben N

Clearing MS cookies worked :D

Thank you!

Bob

12:47 AM

lol

first thing that stuck out was you were sending 13 kB of cookies

while I only had 600 B

> cookie: [13560 bytes were stripped]

Michael Frank

So MS was saying.. Man I can't eat that many cookies?! bleeergh

Burgi

the police are now treating it as a terrorist incident :(

not the worst one manchester has had

Michael Frank

Yea... was just about to ping you... 19 dead. That's tragic. :(

Ben N

:(

Journeyman Geek

1:09 AM

:(

Burgi

1:38 AM

> “I was at the concert with my cousin. We were walking out and then it happened right in front of me. Me and my cousin fell back.

“I can’t remember it properly, I remember seeing orange. “Everyone started crying and running away. I could see people near me and I saw a torso.

“I’m alright. I’ve just got cuts on my hand.”

grim

Journeyman Geek

.....

Yeah.

Ugh

Burgi

the election has been suspended and COBRA are meeting first thing

i slept as soon as i got home so i'm wide awake and i'll be reading this stuff until i pass out in a few hours probably...

Bob

2:13 AM

election? COBRA? terrorist incident?

Michael Frank

@Bob A bomb went off outside Manchester Stadium earlier today, killing at least 19 and injuring many more.

It was detonated just after concert goers were leaving an Ariana Grande concert.

Burgi

cobra is the emergency government response team

the UK is having a general election in 2 weeks time

i think they might have the bomber. one of the hospitals is in ultra lockdown mode

Bob

2:39 AM

@MichaelFrank O_O

Burgi

Mosul: Fight against ISIS from the sky in 360 video - BBC News

►

Michael Frank

3:08 AM

@Burgi I saw a comment it could have been suicide bombers, maybe one didn't go off??

Burgi

shrugs

i'm going to go lie down for a bit

Michael Frank

4:02 AM

2

Classic Yahoo! answers.

bwDraco

If it were here: flagged as not an answer

Michael Frank

If it were here it wouldn't make it past the minimum post length.

Two starred messages in almost as many minutes? I'm on a roll today!

bwDraco

@MichaelFrank A troll could just as easily bypass the 30-character requirement by inserting nonsense, and it can be completely invisible without looking at the underlying markup.

I've seen it happen several times.

Michael Frank

@bwDraco Yes, but the brevity of the answer makes it all that much funnier.

bwDraco

The quality filter, AFAICT, applies only to questions, not answers.

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Q: Don't count non-printing characters, HTML comments or other content not displayed toward minimum character requirements

A follow-up to Enforcing a question minimum character length?, and an extension of Spaces getting past minimum character limit. This post shows that it is possible to circumvent minimum character requirements using null bytes. Can we exclude such non-printing characters as ASCII NULL and other ...

My flag record is probably way too long for me to readily isolate answers of this sort, but I might be able to find a couple of examples...

Michael Frank

4:08 AM

There's definitely a minimum post length of 30 characters for answers.

bwDraco

There's an automated quality filter for questions added on top of this requirement.

Michael Frank

<br> can be used to bypass the filter.

See my answer ;)

bwDraco

That's not quite invisible; notice the blank area

Michael Frank

Yea, I can see the blank area.

allquixotic

@Bob avoid ES2! buggy as all hell, laggy as all hell, something about it doesn't scale into the later game... we can come back to it in a few months/years if they ever fix it

Bob

4:12 AM

@allquixotic :(

I already bought it

though I suppose <2hrs => refund is possible

allquixotic

the AI is so slow it's like they're trying to solve NP-hard problems directly and running into factorial complexity or something

I'm not getting a refund; I definitely want to play it at some point, I just think it needs another 6 months in the oven

we might be able to squeeze in a 2v2 game with a tiny map without too much lag

Bob

@allquixotic did you run it on your desktop?

allquixotic

also it has a game "speed" setting from fast, normal, slow, and "Endless" -- it doesn't control the speed of turns or anything, it just makes more happen on turns if you speed it up

would highly recommend we play it on "Fast" to preserve sanity

Michael Frank

@bwDraco oops... Bumping 5 year old feature requests is bad apparently. >.>

allquixotic

I'm playing on Slow and wow

@Bob yep!

it's about 15-20% faster in-between turn calculations on my desktop vs. MBP

bwDraco

4:15 AM

I'm kinda thinking the question needs to be historically locked.

allquixotic

framerate is better but the framerate isn't an issue to begin with; it's a CPU hog, and 1 or 2-threaded

Bob

@allquixotic fits w/ CPU diff

Michael Frank

@bwDraco Maybe this will bring the attention it needs ;)

Bob

@allquixotic if it's AI calcs it could possibly benefit from more threads

but that depends how they've implemented it of course...

allquixotic

well it's only pegging about 2.1 threads on my 6700K

Bob

4:16 AM

probably some weird dependency

@allquixotic yea, I meant in a future update

assuming the AI engine isn't too complex/coupled

allquixotic

I'm playing the largest possible map size with 9 out of 16 possible enemies (16 would probably take forever, goddamn) and around turn 250+, each turn takes about 90 seconds just for the AI to take their turn (all 9, not each)

Bob

...which it probably is

expanding the thread count is probably a full rewrite + making perf worse per-thread

@allquixotic lol. reminds me of chess (Microsoft Chess) on higher difficulties

allquixotic

I think it only took about 10 seconds when I started the game

Bob

the decision trees just get ridiculously long

allquixotic

so yeah, a 2v2 would probably be relatively fast

bwDraco

4:18 AM

Bob

> Status: This is a finite game, but generalizations to n*n boards are EXPTIME-complete.

^ Chess

allquixotic

@Bob ah

Bob

@allquixotic sounds like it's just got a large factor

but not exponential and definitely not factorial :P

could be like N^4 or something though

which is already pretty bad if N grows huge later

bwDraco

That's polynomial time, which is not quite intractable.

Michael Frank

@bwDraco What even is that?

Bob

4:21 AM

@allquixotic Per-unit decisions, probably?

bwDraco

superuser.com/questions/183003/… (10k only)

Bob

I assume they prune at some point so it doesn't try to calculate to the end-game, but with lots of units it could get pretty crazy.

@bwDraco Eh. Perhaps in general terms. But N^4 is already crazy high for most practical purposes.

In fact it's probably only in the order of N^3 at most.

Probably less.

@allquixotic How's the actual gameplay though? :P

Balance?

allquixotic

@Bob fantastic

@Bob balance is good; it's easy to build a civ that sucks based on its starting bonuses etc, and a lot hinges on the environment immediately around your home system, kinda like in SoaSE if you're surrounded by dead asteroids and space junks or something

I got attacked by respawning pirates from hell early game, which set me back, because they prevented me from expanding in one direction, and would blockade my planets to hurt my income

but I learned that the pirate ships mainly focused on torpedoes, so I equipped my ships with nothing but autocannons, which shoot down torpedoes before they can hit you... thus solving the problem

Bob

@allquixotic ha. respawning pirates from hell... definitely sounds like soase

allquixotic

designing ships is fun though, and there's trade, diplomacy, not too conceptually complicated research, and tons of events//quests/anomalies

bwDraco

4:29 AM

So... I'm looking into going into strategy games more, once I get Astaroth up and running. Is Endless Legend an appropriate way to get started, or should I just get Civilization VI?

(No 4X experience whatsoever, and minimal RTS experience. Some turn-based strategy experience, primarily from Fire Emblem.)

Michael Frank

Endless Legend is much more fantasy if you'd prefer that.

bwDraco

4:47 AM

I grew up on action and role-playing games. Never really liked the slower pace of strategy games, but I guess it's always better to be well-rounded. Besides, there's real-world benefits to playing strategy games.

bwDraco

5:02 AM

...night.

William

5:17 AM

I am a box admin wahahah!

Oliver Salzburg

6:39 AM

New avatar \o/

Journeyman Geek

o0

Oliver Salzburg

love that snail

satibel

6:51 AM

@Rahul2001 fixed.

$(chatbox).append(document.createTextNode('[#] '+$(usermsg).val()));
$(chatbox).append('<br>');

Burgi

morning :(

Rahul2001

@satibel Woohoo!

@Burgi why so sad?

satibel

btw, you could indent it ^^

@Burgi no need to be depressed because of the morning, you'll be home in ~8hours.

Burgi

@Rahul2001 @satibel manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/…

@satibel i'm working from home today as my office is in the exclusion zone

satibel

ow

Burgi

7:02 AM

oh god... thats all we need.... trump might make a detour to manchester

satibel

@Burgi hopefully there's a bomb that has not exploded yet.

satibel

7:16 AM

@bwDraco weird, HGST is part of WD.

> 7200rpm drive : 25% faster than a 5400rpm drive.

well, you're not technically wrong

Burgi

I'm currently at the back of the Manchester Arena. There's a cordon in place as soon as you step out of the Green Q… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866906629882744833

Tweeted by AlexandraRucki on May 23, 2017 at 6:40 AM

djsmiley2k

8:25 AM

:/

Terrorists are such dicks

DavidPostill

+1 ^^^

djsmiley2k

star me mofos

you know it's true

and sadly now the media will be like 'look at this guy, he was the terrorist! LOOK AT HIM!'

heh weird rep i have

Oliver Salzburg

8:44 AM

@djsmiley2k Maybe it was only an errorist. Did it by mistake

Burgi

i think you might be right

i don't think he planned to be there when he detonated it

Bob

9:16 AM

Burgi

9:28 AM

lol

Burgi

9:45 AM

thats similar to the roads in sicily

Rahul2001

Lol

Bob

10:08 AM

I think this is the deadest AA battery I've ever seen

~120mV open-circuit voltage

Gypsy Spellweaver

10:26 AM

@Rahul2001 Yipee. I got it resurrected. Again

Rahul2001

@GypsySpellweaver :D

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Rahul2001 Now that I've got that accomplished, I can finally take a nap :)

satibel

10:48 AM

@Bob I got one at 0V, was internally shorted :p

djsmiley2k

it begins

:/

i said it would come to this

gurrilla attacks en mass

get people into a state of not knowing anything anymore

and suddently they'll start turning on each other too :/

satibel

@Bob I even had one at -1.6V :^)

@djsmiley2k it's solved for me, I already don't know anything.

Bob

11:03 AM

@satibel That's not dead. That's undead :P

@satibel This one ia actually fine, it's just been sitting in a wireless mouse forever... nothing physically wron with it apart from the endless drain :P

djsmiley2k

@Bob it's a power sink battery?

how's that even work?!

Bob

@djsmiley2k If it's got reversed polarity and a lower voltage than the rest of the system, the battery either gets charged or exploded.

djsmiley2k

\o/

Bob

Personally, I don't like it when my batteries get exploded.

5

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob It's an acquired taste

Burgi

11:09 AM

i'm glad i didn't go in today

satibel

@djsmiley2k the sticker was upside down.

DavidPostill

11:30 AM

lol

0

A: Screen graphics suddenly distorts and pc hangs

This is due to RAM failure(memory bits gets stuck in RAM and data is not processed)... Replacement will do or try cleaning the RAM with the lens cleaning cloth which creates static energy.....

Journeyman Geek

Oo

satibel

be careful, if you rub the pixies the wrong way, they can get angry.

Journeyman Geek

Someone jumped off an office building near where I work

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek Sounds unhealthy

Journeyman Geek

11:46 AM

Quite

Oliver Salzburg

What do you guys use to start a browser from the CLI?

satibel

@OliverSalzburg lynx<LF>

firefox<LF> works too.

where <LF> stands for pressing enter.

and obviously, you need said browser installed.

Oliver Salzburg

@satibel I obviously should have specified OS. Those are too easy! :D

Windows is the problem

DavidPostill

12:02 PM

@OliverSalzburg Stick a batch file in your path that does the needful.

satibel

do you need a general solution (e.g. starting default browser) or a specific version is ok?

Bob

@OliverSalzburg start http://example.com

that'll use the default http handler

alternatively start firefox.exe because yay App Paths

Oliver Salzburg

@DavidPostill Is that what you do?

@satibel I don't need a solution, I want to know what other people do

Then I will figure out the solution myself

I am also taking edge cases into account which would take too long to get into. So I'm just comparing existing use cases against certain scenarios. For example, you can open more stuff in a browser than arguments that start with a protocol identifier

Like a folder on disc

This is not something start supports AFAIK

Then there are, of course, 256 different "open browser from the CLI" tools, scripts and guides on the web

So some first-hand experiences, which provide acceptable results, is already major progress :P

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Windows has no concept of default "browser"

merely default http and https handler

satibel

12:18 PM

it has a default browser in the start menu.

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob I'm aware of that

Bob

I use start firefox.exe because I use Firefox. But that's not even near a generic solution.

satibel

(for /f "tokens=3*" %A in ('reg query "HKCU\Software\Classes\http\shell\open\command" /ve') DO echo %B>"tmp1234.bat")&tmp1234.bat&del tmp1234.bat

works, but is blocking.

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Eh. If you want to let users pick what to use, start with the default and make it configurable.

Because I'm sure some guy using TotalCommander or similar is gonna complain.

DavidPostill

@OliverSalzburg Not really. I work from the GUI not the command line. And FF is running the whole time anyway ...

Oliver Salzburg

12:27 PM

@Bob I don't want that

@DavidPostill Yeah, same here. But occasionally I have the desire to pop something open in the browser from the CLI. And it's always something that nobody else seems to want to do :P

Bob

@OliverSalzburg I do that all the time -_-

well, used to

ended up making these instead

satibel

macro for browser ftw.

Bob

start "" "%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" -P -no-remote

though I used to just do it with only start firefox.exe before I got half a dozen different ones

useful when you want an independent instance on a different profile

Oliver Salzburg

The thing is, when I start folder, I get explorer or an error message, depending on where I enter it. When I start chrome folder, I get Chrome, which tries to navigate to "folder", but not with the file:// protocol. Also, it doesn't use the same profile that is used when you simple start url

So, yeah, that is 1

satibel

@Bob For that I have made the users dummy1 to dummy9 for runas purposes.

Bob

12:32 PM

@OliverSalzburg start firefox C:\ worked just then

@satibel eh, I prefer to use ff profiles directly

runas is much heavier

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Nice, Firefox handles it properly. Chrome not so much

satibel

but runas works with everything, and allows to run semi trusted apps as a limited user.