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cat
2:06 PM
Wow, that's twice in a row online chat support has actually sorted out my problem.
Shocking.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek yea they go down to 144
 
cat
@Bob Upscale!
 
Bob
@cat what, planning to come for a visit? :P
 
cat
@Bob No, just got a mailshot with some offers listed including 40% off Oz
 
Bob
2:09 PM
ah
 
Affordable workstation GPUs!
 
cat
And well, I've wanted to visit basically all English speaking countries for like, 20 years, so any excuse really.
I think Canadia and NZ and AU are the few places I have left to tick off my list
Oh and SA
> English is the primary language* in Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Australia (Australian English), the Bahamas, Barbados, Bermuda, Belize (Belizean Kriol), the British Indian Ocean Territory, the British Virgin Islands, Canada (Canadian English), the Cayman Islands, the Falkland Islands, Gibraltar, Grenada, Guam, ...
Ah shit
 
Bob
lol
 
cat
Maybe change that to actual countries rather than tiny islands that are only countries because they couldn't agree with their neighbours about some form of mutual government.
I know, I'll visit the Anglosphere!
> English is the primary language* in Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Australia (Australian English), the Bahamas, Barbados, Bermuda, Belize (Belizean Kriol), the British Indian Ocean Territory, the British Virgin Islands, Canada (Canadian English), the Cayman Islands, the Falkland Islands, Gibraltar, Grenada, Guam,
Guernsey (Channel Island English), Guyana, Ireland (Hiberno-English), Isle of Man (Manx English), Jamaica (Jamaican English), Jersey, Montserrat, Nauru, New Zealand (New Zealand English), Pitcairn Islands, Saint Helena, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Sin
Ooh Singapore, I've been there!
And it's too small to even see on the map
 
@cat TWSS
 
cat
2:15 PM
@JourneymanGeek Why did she even need a map?
 
@cat and a trained smurf.
 
cat
:-/
._.
>_<
o_.
._¸
°¸°
 
@cat whoever that lady was was strange
 
cat
I have no idea which lady you are on about
 
That might not be a bad thing.
 
cat
2:21 PM
TWSS
 
Bob
@cat apparently qualcomm S7s have fm radio but not exynos
 
cat
@Bob Meh.
I was pissed when they first pulled off of the S4 or S5? Never even thought of using one since then
 
Bob
lol
I've occasionally had the thought
on the few long-distance drives where mobile reception isn't really a thing
 
cat
2:38 PM
@Bob Meh, I fly a lot and mobile reception and FM reception aren't really a thing
Hence I have an SD card packed with music and an SSD packed with movies
 
Bob
lol
 
cat
Seriously though, in this back-side-arse-end-of-nowhere-town the only way to get anywhere is to fly to London
Oh fuck you imgur
 
"No wierd invertebrate yoga"
 
25K!
 
cat
Drunk cars ahead?
 
Bob
2:51 PM
@JourneymanGeek "No loop-de-loops"
"No O-turns"
 
"Go home car, you are drunk"
2
 
Bob
@cat "Kerbal Space Kar testing area"
Hey, the rockets and planes end up upside down often enough
 
cat
:D
That's basically how I launch
 
Bob
lol
 
cat
I mean, you've seen this one right?
VTO Spaceplane!
 
Bob
2:53 PM
> Your Dropbox promotion through Samsung expires on August 2
Huh.
I wonder if my S7 has one too
 
cat
That's basically exactly what the sign suggests!
 
Bob
> Only new Dropbox users may redeem the promotion on Samsung devices launched after Fall 2014.
:(
I suppose I'll just have to use Onedrive and ownCloud more
@cat LOL
 
Finally hit 25k.
 
Bob
 
2:59 PM
@Bob Woah, that's desktop-background-worthy
 
Bob
no 4k :(
 
lol
@Bob there's very little 4k wallpaper
 
!!nrooster
 
I usually roll my own
 
3:01 PM
@Bob I'm looking to do this sort of photography but I don't have the time or money to make long expeditions. Any hints?
 
Bob
@bwDraco I haven't got a clue...
I suppose it's easier if you start with plants? Visit a botanical garden?
 
cat
 
Okay. Analytics question: While I cannot provide raw data, why is such a large portion of our traffic indicated as coming from DuckDuckGo?
 
cat
Wow Icelandic signs are... not obvious
 
Bob
@cat Lots of weird ones o.O
 
3:02 PM
Is this because Google no longer provides referer information?
 
@bwDraco search engines are a different category and DDG isn't listed as a search engine
 
Bob
wtf
looks a bit like a snake holding a pill
godammit why does this printer turn off automatically
 
cat
 
3.5% of our search traffic comes from Bing, why so little?
 
cat
3:08 PM
Snakes seem to be a common thing for pharmacies to keep around
 
@cat Snakes symbolize medical care. It's a historical thing.
 
Bob
 
@bwDraco not that many people use bing?
 
The caduceus is the traditional symbol of Hermes and features two snakes winding around an often winged staff. It is often mistakenly used as a symbol of medicine instead of the Rod of Asclepius, especially in the United States. The two-snake caduceus design has ancient and consistent associations with trade, eloquence, trickery, and negotiation. Tangential association of the caduceus with medicine has occurred through the ages, where it was sometimes associated with alchemy and wisdom. The modern use of the caduceus as a symbol of medicine became established in the United States in the late 19th...
 
Bob
> It is often mistakenly used as a symbol of medicine instead of the Rod of Asclepius
> mistakenly
 
3:09 PM
@cat "snake being sneaky" "snakes drinking from water cooler"
 
Bob
wrong snake :P
 
cat
6 out of 10 for Ireland, 10 out of 10 for Poland :-/
 
Bob
@cat link?
 
Bob
Location: wat
 
cat
3:11 PM
8/10 on Germany... Australia's the last one for me to try
 
Bob
I suppose "South Wales" is close enough! :P
 
cat
Makes a change, since most of Europe uses the same signs
 
There's no west of england.
My temporarily bristolian soul is outraged.
 
cat
@JourneymanGeek We call that Wales
Woo, 10/10 for Australia! Even though I had to guess half of them. Also this one confused the hell out of me:
Looks like a pair of skis with a moustache
 
"feral assault helicopters on the prowl"
 
Bob
3:13 PM
I've legit never seen this one before
 
cat
Me neither, but I'm not an aussie
 
Bob
@cat It's not in the list
probably a different state
> (W2-V112-1) T-junction at dual carriageway (Used in Victoria)
Of course it's bloody Victoria
always with the funny roads and signs
Warning... aircraft?
 
low fluying aircraft. Or flying lamps.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek If I need to be warned about in a car, that's pretty damn low-flying.
As in, soon-to-be-not-flying.
 
@Bob more like OMG ITS A PLANE. CRASH. BOOM. FIRE AND DEATH.
 
3:21 PM
Got followed by this user, is it spam?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek If that's a common enough occurrence to necessitate warning signs, maybe you're going about fixing it the wrong way :P
 
cat
@Bob Huh
I've done actual extended hook turns
 
Bob
I've never actually done one
 
cat
Mainly to get around red lights
 
Bob
I chose not to drive when I went to Melb :P
 
cat
3:23 PM
Basically turn left on red, and do a U-turn
 
Bob
oh, that. yea, I do that sometimes when the right turn has a massive queue
 
cat
So not really a hook turn in terms of what that page describes them to be intended for
 
Bob
but this is a prescribed hook turn
within the intersection
 
cat
> The vehicle moves forward, keeping clear of any marked foot crossing, until it is as near as possible to parallel with the left-most lane of the road the vehicle is entering.
w...what?
 
Bob
lol
@cat basically you cut in front of the car waiting at the lights in the lane you want to turn into
 
cat
3:25 PM
Yeah, but doesn't that mean you only get one car turning per cycle of the lights?
That's just... stupid
 
Bob
"unique situations"
 
cat
@Bob "When driving in Melbourne"
Or simply the act of driving in Melbourne?
 
Bob
the car in the vid signalled way too late -_-
 
cat
OK "as near as possible to the far side of the road" is just stupid
Mildly autistic literalists like myself would literally drive up to the kerb and go "WTF, I can't turn on the spot"
 
cat
3:29 PM
> pom
Either comes from 'prisoner of mother England' or pomigranite - a reddish coloured fruit that native Australians (Aboriginals) thought had a similar colour to the skin of sunburnt Brits.
Not meant to be an insult (as some English think for some reason), merely a nickname for our less-tanned former rulers. Nicknaming everything is very Australian.
> 2
pom
A British person - or close equivalent to the species. Specialise in inventing sports and timing themselves on how long it takes before all of their former colonies can defeat them at it. Spelt P-O-M: the "Prisoner of Her Majesty" explanation is an urban legend, as is "Prisoner of Mother England", the other version of this common myth.
 
Bob
@cat yea no one really knows where it's from
 
"Road rules? What is that?" - India.
 
cat
W...what?!
Tramps stop in the middle of the road and board across a live traffic lane?!
What the flying fuck
 
@jokerdino india has rules
 
3:32 PM
that happens in a lot of eastern european countries
 
cat
@JourneymanGeek Just nobody knows or follows them
 
"Whoever flashes headlights first has right of way"
 
@JourneymanGeek what about the horn?
 
cat
@JourneymanGeek Hah, in Britain flashing headlights is giving way
 
"Size Matters"
 
3:32 PM
Full beam headlights with loud horns, more like.
@JourneymanGeek TNWSS
 
@cat or "PULL OVER YOU STUPID SLOW PEUGOT DRIVER!"
 
cat
"You must not delay a tram"
Lol
 
"If you see one headlight, it could be a car or a bike. If you see two it could be a car, or two people on a bike with a full washing machine with clothes in it in between"
 
The inner lane is for slow vehicles and outer lane is for overtaking.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Is the washing machine running?
 
cat
3:35 PM
"Trams always have right of way from all directions"
Seems like these trams are some sort of sacred must-not-be-delayed emergency vehilce
 
Bob
@cat yea, melb is weird. trams are always in the centre and they probably didn't want to cause a lane switch
funnily enough sydney bus lanes are always on the side
and I don't remember seeing a single bus in melb
they love their trams
we're apparently getting light rail here
 
cat
@Bob We are too excessively health and safety obsessed so we build a pedestrian island in the middle of the road at a tram stop and four traffic lighted pedestrian crossings for people to get to them :-/
 
Bob
I still haven't figured out what the difference between light rail and traditional commuter trains are
we used to have trams in sydney
 
cat
All bus lanes are at the left in the UK. I didn't know they could be put elsewhere
 
Bob
The Sydney tramway network served the inner suburbs of Sydney, Australia from 1879 until 1961. In its heyday, it was the largest in Australia, the second largest in the Commonwealth of Nations (after London), and one of the largest in the world. The network was heavily worked, with about 1,600 cars in service at any one time at its peak during the 1930s (cf. about 500 trams in Melbourne today). Patronage peaked in 1945 at 405 million passenger journeys. It had a maximum street mileage of 181 miles (291 km), in 1923. == History == === Early tramways === Sydney's first tram was horse-dra...
> In its heyday, it was the largest in Australia, the second largest in the Commonwealth of Nations (after London)
lol
 
cat
3:38 PM
> Light rail or light rail transit (LRT) is urban public transport using rolling stock similar to a tramway, but operating at a higher capacity, and often on an exclusive right-of-way.
There is no standard definition, but in the United States, where the terminology was devised in the 1970s (from the engineering term light railway), light rail operates primarily along exclusive rights-of-way and uses either individual tramcars or multiple units coupled to form a train.[1][2][3][4][5]
A few light rail networks tend to have characteristics closer to rapid transit or even commuter rail; some of
 
Bob
wait those aren't the ones I was thinking about
The Sydney light rail network is a tram or light rail system serving the Australian city of Sydney, New South Wales. The network presently consists of a single 12.8-kilometre (8 mi) line of 23 stations. A second line is under construction and two further lines serving Western Sydney have been announced. The network is controlled by Transport for NSW, a statutory authority of the Government of New South Wales. == History == In the 19th and early 20th centuries, Sydney developed an extensive tram network, which grew to be one of the largest in the world. The increasing rate of private car ownership...
here we go
 
@Bob no, but it was full of water.
 
cat
I'm a bit jaded when it comes to trams since I lived in Edinburgh for 10 years... the Edinburgh tram project being the most embarrassing civil engineering farce of the century.
 
@cat if the french could do it...
 
cat
Took nearly ten years longer than planned, cost ten times more than planned, and only 1/6th of the planned lines got built. And it ended up slower than buses anyway.
 
Bob
3:41 PM
The Epping to Chatswood rail link (ECRL) (originally a part of the Parramatta Rail Link (PRL)) is a railway line in the northern suburbs of Sydney, Australia, which connects the suburb of Epping on the Northern line to the suburb of Chatswood on the North Shore line. The 13 km line is completely underground and includes three new intermediate stations: North Ryde (known as Delhi Road during much of the planning process), Macquarie Park and Macquarie University. The junction stations at Epping and Chatswood both underwent major redevelopments to incorporate the new link. == Earlier proposals... ==
 
cat
Not to mention the businesses tolerating five years of roadworks blocking off most of the city centre. Half of which was to fix the first set of roadworks that they did wrong
 
Bob
> Construction of the PRL began with the Chatswood to Epping section, which commenced in November 2002.

In August 2003 the NSW Transport Minister, Michael Costa, announced that the Epping-Parramatta section would be postponed indefinitely.
> In December 2007 it was announced that Tangara trains would not be running on the line due to steepness of the tunnel.[12] The line owner, RailCorp, has denied that this is an engineering bungle
> On 23 October 2008 it was also confirmed during testing that sound levels on the train were 90 decibels, as loud as a 737 plane coming into land.
@cat Funny, that. The Chatswood station works lasted 6 years.
 
cat
> In May and June 2015 cyclists were allowed to board the trams with their bikes, during a trial period which was supported by cycle campaign groups Spokes and Pedal on Parliament. Following this, Edinburgh trams became the first light rail network in the UK to permit the carriage of bikes on a permanent basis, with up to two bicycles being allowed per tram outwith peak hours (7.30am to 9.30am, and 4pm to 6.30pm) and excluding the festival period (7−31 August) and other large events
Huh, that's new.
 
Bob
Wait, did I say 6 years?
6 years to open the track
 
cat
When I moved out of Edinburgh they were protesting about not being permitted bicycles on the tram despite their being enough space to park a small car in the doorways.
 
Bob
3:43 PM
another 3 years to finish the little shopping area thing
another 2 years to finish the food court
 
cat
At least you got a station
We just got blocked off roads... Can't be bothered building a station? Close the road and call it a station! Done!
 
Bob
> The original station, as well as the attached bus interchange and shopping centre were demolished in 2005 and a temporary station was opened where the former platform 3 was located. A new western island platform opened in place of the original island platform on 16 October 2006. The eastern island platform opened in 2008.
> The CTI was constructed as a Public Private Partnership and was to include a new shopping plaza called Metro Chatswood and three towers. The private developers, CRI Chatswood, went into receivership whilst construction was underway.[7] As a result, the shopping centre remained closed until 2014 and major construction of the towers was delayed for several years.
close enough :P
@cat masterpiece
 
cat
Eh and actual train service is a lot more complex than a tram.... whole point of a tram is it's supposed to be basically just slapping rails onto an existing road to make it cheaper than actual rail
Also I bet those trains don't run at 3mph
 
Bob
@cat funny you should mention that...
there's a couple tunnels they go 5km/h though
 
cat
:-/
Our trams do that speed because they decided to build a series of chicanes and S-bends into a completely open empty field just for fun
 
Bob
3:47 PM
o.O
@cat our "trams" (aka "light rail") apparently have a tiny on-road section. the rest uses repurposed freight rail lines...
 
cat
Does the rail service make bus journey times 50% longer, and still manage to be slower than the bus?
 
Bob
@cat ah, no. it's faster than buses. I think
>

Too many connections

Sorry, but Railpage Australia™ is currently unavailable.
wat
 
cat
They weren't expecting more than two people to try and view it at a time
 
@Bob I get that too...
 
cat
> Thirty-two drivers were employed, after passing psychological tests designed to eliminate risk-takers
LMAO.
 
Bob
3:51 PM
looks like typical range near Central is 15-70 km/h
 
cat
Also we had roadworks close off the city centre for over six months while no work was being done because the contractors went on holiday in protest at pay conditions
 
Bob
though those numbers are going south
I live up north
 
Bob
I do know cars go the bridge at 70 km/h and I often watch them overtake the train in the morning :P
@cat ouch
@Rahul2001 nty
bloody clickbait titles
 
cat
3:53 PM
Gah need to leave work early to buy some Chinese
 
Bob
user image
3
@cat I thought slaves were illegal
 
cat
@Bob lol. Not even surprised.
Need to restore an old laptop backup with W7 on it to upgrade with my W7 Pro key
Should do that tonight actually.
 
Bob
hm, I just realised I still have a win7 licence for my netbook that I haven't booted in years and is currently running opensuse
well
I would have the licence if I could find it
 
@Bob not really clickbait...
@Bob sticker under the laptop?
 
cat
I'm only bothering because I have several W7 and W8 pro licenses and I CBA paying for a post-offer Pro upgrade just to get remote desktop
 
Bob
3:56 PM
@Rahul2001 "watch what happens next!"
@Rahul2001 XP sticker.
@cat yea this is either pro or enterprise
can't remember... probably pro
 
cat
Watch what happens to Clippy after this one dirty trick
> Woman, 21, dies after crashing into wall
Where's watch what happens after when I want to
 
can anyone recommend a linux cmd line AV program?
 
cat
@Burgi rm -rf
 
@Burgi Wait, what? AV for linux?
 
there are viruses for linux
 
Bob
4:03 PM
knowing what you want to use it for? no.
iirc clamav might be the most common but it's probably utterly useless here
 
@Burgi I would assume that anyone who is smart enough to run linux would also be smart enough not to get a virus on it...
 
@Rahul2001 no-one is perfect. especially linux gurus
 
;p
 
Three days left to upgrade!
 
despite their insistance that they are god
 
Bob
4:07 PM
I should probably do my laptop
 
I took the upgrade day-one and despite some early technical issues, I'm very happy with Windows 10.
 
i'm still "meh" on win10
2
if it were not free i'd have happily stayed with win7
 
I start humming/singing this softly whenever someone bothers me: youtube.com/…
 
Bob
Early technical issues? Ha
More like a continuous stream of bugs
 
They usually take the hint...
 
Bob
4:09 PM
It never ends
I'm still experiencing bugs
 
All my personal computers are sticking with Windows 7 Pro... Sure, it "expires" in 2020, but I'm comfortable with Linux, and I download open-source and cross-platform programs anyways already
 
Bob
Like settings search not working unless you're en-US
en-GB and en-AU obviously don't need support, noooope
 
cortana turning herself back on after every update
 
Bob
Just make everyone use en-US!
-- Microsoft
 
Microsoft seriously messed up with windows 10. Seriously
 
4:12 PM
the US keyboard reinstalling itself after each update
 
@Rahul2001 They said that about Vista and 8. I still don't actually see what was that wrong with them.
 
@Mokubai I'm would chose vista over 10
 
8 had an awful UI, but was okay once you got that it was meant for tablets and when you got used to it was actually not that bad
 
All this metro/universal/whatever-the-crap-they-are-calling-it-now shit really pisses me off
 
Vista was just a bit before its time and needed better graphics cards than most integrated systems had at the time
 
4:15 PM
I want a lightweight OS that doesn't lag.
 
@Rahul2001 It's quite easy to ignore that side of things in 10... pin your browser to your task bar, only install "desktop" apps
10 works perfect on my old i7-860
 
Stop forcing universal apps on me, Microsoft, Windows phone already failed...
 
If it's lagging then there's something wrong
 
the lumias are really good phones
they just lack apps
 
@Burgi They are also practically unavailable here in India...
 
4:16 PM
Oh, are you talking about Win10 Phone?
 
@Mokubai NO
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 those are targeted for touch tablets
 
I'm talking about Win 10 for PC
@Bob :/
 
Bob
Which would be fine if the system apps weren't so buggy
 
> Microsoft will now only focus on enterprise-centric phones
@Bob +100
 
4:31 PM
@Burgi: clamav, most smtp servers use it for virii email scanning too.
 
ty
 
cat
4:48 PM
Everything is so much darker when you're wearing sunglasses
Also other cats look at me funny when I'm wearing sunglasses
Wow holy shit everything is bright when you take off sunglasses
 
cat
5:11 PM
Well that was easy
Open Backups drive => Find random VHD => Mount VHD => Keyfinder => Done
 
5:32 PM
@cat that monolog was scarily realistically like how my cats act
2
 
cat
It's not really scary that a cat acts like a cat IMO
 
What about when they don't act like a cat, and start communicating with the food providers on stackexchange chat?
 
cat
shrugs
I wouldn't know anything about that
 
6:24 PM
-_-;
 
cat
Oh for some reason I have two Windows 7 Ultimate keys :-/
I'm out of computers to use them on :-/
Looking forward to reinstalling Windows 3 more times :-/
 
Just hand them out to random starngers on the internet. I am sure I could use them on a VM
But seriously; I have been buying copies of windows to get a key for a VM
 
cat
lol
 
Selling the key it a real option.
Call me strange but I liked legal window copies on my Internet banking laptop
Rather than some crack.exe
 
cat
It's been a long time since I had non-legal copies of Windows
 
6:28 PM
MY last two windows versions are legally bought, and the one before that was a gift from Microsoft (vitisitng their 'new. Released today in NL! Win7 !'
 
I've never personally installed a cracked copy \o/
 
cat
Since before they started selling £30 copies of Ultimate to students
 
please pay a lot of money for this seminar and get a win7 ultimate for free.
I am not a student though
I suspect a lot off my install is legal. OS, installed non-game programs, etc
 
then again i've never directly brought a windows licence either
 
cat
The cheap student copies were a pretty decent strategy. Got me hooked on actually using legal software where I otherwise wouldn't have bothered
£300 for Windows Ultimate? No thanks. £30? Sure.
 
6:32 PM
Nod
I just never bothered upgrading from whatever OEM version came ona system
because I saw the pains my friends had when using cracked/hacked versions
 
cat
And after that it was like, £50 for Windows 8? Eh, why not. Beats going back to pirated.
By the time I had enough money to pay full price it'd been so long I'd forgotten where to even get pirated copies of Windows from.
@djsmiley2k I've always built my own systems. Or since 2002 anyway.
 
me too
cept.... linux
:D
 
cat
Lol
The ones that came on machines were usually home edition, and I wanted some features from pro/ultimate
> Key changes include "a legal right to decent broadband," of at least 10Mbit/s – with this minimum level to increase over time.
Hah
Sure I'll give you 10Mbps 4G. With a 10Mbpm data cap.
 
6:50 PM
@cat Not possible given the cost to deliver even basic Internet access these days.
If the baseline was 1-3 Mbps, that might be feasible. Slow, but usable.
 
7:17 PM
posted on July 26, 2016 by Luke B

Setting up Exim 4 is relatively easy on Debian, especially if you’re only sending mail to yourself (i.e. Server messages, Forget Password requests, etc). Because I have home-level Internet service from my Canadian ISP, I can’t host mail directly on this box – but I also don’t want to rely on Shaw’s mail servers if… Read More » The post Setting up Exim4 with G

 
cat
@TalkAboutIT! Your avatar is borked
 
DAMNIT!
I'll need to make a new one :-/ I just suck at the artsy-stuff
 
cat
7:32 PM
lmao
Install Windows 7 => Run Windows Update => Get a notice to install Windows 10 => Click OK, takes me to a broken blank web page. Because Internet Eplorer that comes with Windows 7 is too old to load the Microsoft website.
So I have to install Chrome to be able to upgrade -_-
 
@CanadianLuke I suppose you can use web.archive.org to get back most old articles of your blog.
Then you properly set up both file & db backup on a separate server ;p
 
Actually, Windows Live Writer has a bunch of my drafts saved! I'm scheduling them to be posted while I'm gone
 
so my ex-boss came in this evening and basically told us exactly what we already knew
 
Wait, your boss made a factually correct statement? :-O
 
for the most part
but it would have saved a shitload of grief had he told us what was happening 3 weeks ago
 
7:39 PM
hi
can i use windows server to run php code
 
@Sandro Yes, you can. But should you?
 

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