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12:04 AM
one plus 3 ordered
 
@BenN I downvoted, and upvoted the correct one...
I hope IU'm right now :D
Anyone here hack on kindles?
I have liek a 2G model
with keyboard, I just want it to boot and display a local webpage
 
the browser on the kindle is shit ;p
and no, I don't want to risk breaking my precious ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek it doesn't need to be good
it'll just show a few figures
wall mounted, display, etc
something simular to this
anyway bed is calling o/
 
12:23 AM
Good night
 
!!happydance
 
damnit cavil
!!happydance
 
@djsmiley2k perhaps Q#2 is related to how UDP is connectionLESS vs tcp being not. How would one show a remote session in netstat for UDP if its a connectionLESS protocol.
You could display listening PORTS, but to display actual sessions when there isnt one is likely the reason why its displayed as :
Still a good question
 
12:55 AM
just made that
 
@GuitarShoeDave So that's how it's getting onto my machines!
 
lol
thinking about adding that to the question as an answer , think ill get flagged for it/
 
That would definitely not fly
But it would be funny
 
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Q: Does 0.0.0.0:0 and *:* represent the same thing?

user612473I used netstat (in Windows) to view the listened ports for TCP and UDP: I noticed that in the Foreign Address column, UDP displays *:* instead of 0.0.0.0:0, do these two values represent the same thing? if so, then why does UDP displays *:* instead of 0.0.0.0:0?

for this guy
 
12:58 AM
lol
this was posted as a comment to one of my questions/answers
 
haha thats great @allquixotic
Hes the PC Networking Guy of Steve Irwin
 
1:19 AM
@Bob my line-interactive UPS once again protected my PC from shutting down and losing data during a thunderstorm today :)
power went out for around a minute and it caught it and did great
 
Bob
Nice
Are power outages frequent?
 
1:41 AM
@Bob nah
and I've got the second layer of security in the write cache flash drive of the Adaptec RAID, but that doesn't prevent NTFS from saying it has dirty writes
 
2:18 AM
wow Bangalore has 50 mbps internet for 20$ ...
Also apt-get seems to download in parallel now
 
0
Q: The best processor to put in Satellite C655

David MatlackMy father died recently and I have his old Satellite C655 with the Intel Celeron processor. I know a new processor will not make it a super machine, but I wish to put in the best possible processor as it was my fathers machine so sentimental value is reason for my desire to buff up the machine a...

o_O
You're looking for a Socket P processor; these are still available as used parts in limited quantities. The best processor available for this socket is the Core 2 Duo T9900. — bwDraco 2 mins ago
In any case, voted to close.
 
3:12 AM
anybody play Wasteland2 ? read the manual , read the tutorial? or Learn while you burn and you will be restarting the game once you figured it out?
 
That's what I do for everything.
 
learn while you burn? Me thinks you like to read books?
 
3:32 AM
Not manuals
 
oh :-)
 
Bob
4:02 AM
@JourneymanGeek when do you think you'll be available today?
 
@Bob er. I JUST got back from grocery shopping.
bad knee and all.
approx an hour + I think
 
Bob
O.o
Yea I'm still out, just trying to figure out when I should be back :P
How's the knee?
I'd tell you to ask Microsoft but, knowing their support, you'd probably get several contradictory noncommittal answers that they'll deny later when they turn out to be wrong. — Bob 55 secs ago
 
so true
guess, or ask micrsoft whos guess will be as good as yours.
 
4:18 AM
@Bob still somewhat sore
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ah...
 
4:36 AM
@Bob @JourneymanGeek I'm feeling kind of bad tonight; I can't tell if it's fatigue, some kind of blood sugar thing, something I ate, or what... I feel a little better after eating some fruit but might not want to play... depends
 
Bob
o.O
 
geek's hurty, I'm feeling what could best be described as :S, and ... I have to wake up early tomorrow
 
Bob
ok - look after yourself first
 
if you guys ARE feeling up for game, would encourage you to find something fun and play it :)
and I might be around earlyish tomorrow because it probably only takes around 2 hours for morning routine
 
Bob
@allquixotic heh, if you are feeling up to it tomorrow morning then ping me on steam/skype and we can probably make some progress on stellaris
 
4:41 AM
sounds good
 
I just picked up a gloriously shitty brazil style phone magnifying fresnel lens
 
Bob
o.O
oh, saw someone taking selfies in a car today
phone/arm stretched out... the driver's window
noooope
 
then someone overtakes em
Its armless fun.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek more worried that they're gonna crash into someone else
like, me
 
5:15 AM
Hi guys, why on some Wikipedia software pages, we see that "License: GNU General Public License v2 and above"
What does word "above" mean in that context?
 
Bob
@Unknown123 Open Source or Law
 
Thank you @Bob
 
Bob
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Q: Can I change the license of a GPL derived work to be more restrictive regarding version upgrades?

iPherianSpecifically, the GPLv2. The creator of a work can allow people to upgrade to a higher GPL version: (emphasis mine) This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; eith...

@Unknown123 tbh, most of your licence questions can be trivially answered by reading the full licence text
 
Bob
5:40 AM
eww
 
@Bob wow, what a terrible answer.
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank It did just about everything wrong! o.O
 
His other answers are just as bad.
 
5:58 AM
@Bob handled.
lolling so hard at this
especially the last two
 
Bob
google pls
 
6:18 AM
@Bob lol
 
 
1 hour later…
7:39 AM
@Bob Well that's a big roundabout. Can I stop seeding the torrent now?
 
Bob
lol
 
8:00 AM
Ended up seeding about 25GB since yesterday on my home connection, heh.
 
Bob
<== envious :P
@MichaelFrank My home connection can maybe upload 7 GB if I max it out for 24h
And would take some 33 hours to download 150 GB...
 
 
2 hours later…
Bob
9:50 AM
> Letter complaining about customer service
Provided by: Microsoft Corporation
lol
 
Bob
10:06 AM
> Council grants you a non-exclusive licence to reproduce the contents of this website in your web browser (and in any cache file produced by your web browser) for the sole purpose of viewing the content. Council reserves all other rights.
huh. that's an interesting one
 
10:22 AM
@MichaelFrank I was wondering the same thing ;p
 
 
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11:24 AM
Hmm
Of course I also maintain that my votes are always about the quality of the content not who submitted the content. I would have made the same comment if Journeyman Geek submitted it. — Ramhound 2 hours ago
 
Bob
11:38 AM
...
 
11:56 AM
>_>
 
12:14 PM
Oh. Deer. God.
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A: Is placing an exhausting fan (which works with main electricity) near the hard disk a good idea?

Journeyman GeekYou don't want to do this. that setup is horrifyingly dangerous. I see bare wires going into a multiple socket that seems to be of legal drinking age. I see electrical taped up joints. I see this whole setup on newspaper and cloth. IF you have a short, chances are you could set your house on fir...

 
12:30 PM
@DavidPostill: You would think if one could debug their code enough to find the method with the issue and post it as a question. That they would be able to step through their method, to figure out what's wrong with it.. facepalm
 
@GuitarShoeDave Yep :)
 
\o/ 90K
2
 
Scares me when I see microsoft excel + invoicing together.
 
is it that queston vincent asked about and I pointed at SR?
 
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Q: Run-time ERROR '9' Subscript out of range

AnkurSub Button2_click() Dim rng As Range Dim i As Long Dim a As Long Dim rng_dest As Range Application.ScreenUpdating = False i = 1 Set rng_dest = Sheets("Invoicedata").Range("L:P") ' Find first empty row in columns L:P on sheet Invoicedata Do Until WorksheetFunction.CountA(rng_dest...

need a idontknowwhatimdoing metatag
 
12:40 PM
lol
0
Q: How do I crash my Macbook Pro, so I can get a replacement

user1948317I have purchased just 3 months back. And unfortunately there's a very tiny dent(of 2mm) has come somehow, even I don't know how that has happened. Its been very disappointing. Anyone can suggest anyway if I get a replacement?

 
@DavidPostill maaaan
@GuitarShoeDave I think that's what @allquixotic is messing with
 
Great debugging tutorial
using dtrace, pfile, elfdump, etc.
looking @ coredump files, etc
 
!!tell DavidPostill what
 
@JourneymanGeek Don't be annoying, drop the @, nobody likes a double-ping.
 
12:43 PM
blah
 
!!what
 
12:45 PM
!!happydance
 
10K to go
 
Thats crazy rep
 
@JourneymanGeek You asking for more stars? ;p
@GuitarShoeDave He wants the goody bag :)
 
They should send you a plaque or something saying thanks for being awesome.
When you hit that rep level
 
12:53 PM
10
Q: What rights should a user get at 100,000 reputation?

TrueWillJon Skeet was at 95,917 rep on SO just now. What would be an appropriate power to grant him when he reaches 100,000? (Similar to What happens when Jon Skeet’s reputation exceeds the limit for the data type holding it?)

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A: What rights should a user get at 100,000 reputation?

Marc GravellIf 10k allows you to see deleted posts, maybe 100k should allow you to see posts that haven't been posted yet. Not sure how you'd code it, though ;-p

 
tbh, its a nice arbitarily large number of arbitrary imaginary internet points.
 
1:13 PM
TIL
Jeff Atwood on February 21, 2009
Stack Overflow is somewhat unique in that we encourage participation of essentially anonymous, random programmers. Our idea is to radically reduce the bar for participation, and take one giant leap of faith:
 
@Bob @JourneymanGeek I'm about an hour and a half away from being ready to play - not sure if either of you will be around then
 
@allquixotic reasonable chance I will be zzzz
or in bed, rather than at the proper gaming PC
 
Bob may be around :p
 
Bob
1:30 PM
@allquixotic da
@JourneymanGeek lol... if it's stellaris I'll probably be on my laptop :P
@allquixotic I'll squeeze in a game of cs in the meantime :P
 
1:45 PM
yawn
hey yall
 
2:06 PM
@JourneymanGeek 300 \o/
 
@djsmiley2k you're close to 400 \o/
 
Hello!
 
hey @Rahul2001
i ping'd you a amazon link yesterday, dunno if you saw it
 
@djsmiley2k yeah, just saw it
 
wonderting if it's any good, as it's half the prie of the offical one
price*
 
2:15 PM
I usually ignore any items which have exclamation marks in their amazon titles :P
 
:D
it's not as bad as ebay :P
 
but it seems pretty good...
 
!!caat
 
Ooh it's alive again! :D
@JourneymanGeek I was reading that and going "Damn them aussies again" but then realised it was seven years ago
 
2:26 PM
lol
 
@djsmiley2k It has good reviews...
 
yup
well just broke my boot lace
so if the shop doesn't have any, i'll order it and some laces from amazon
 
Jeez, two days and "I am a nerd" is still the second highest starred thing here? wtf.
I only said that on impulse cause I was on a bus
 
heh
Wierdly, I have a few of those lying around
 
few what?
boot laces?
 
Bob
2:38 PM
 
@qwertyuiop forgot to star that, thanks for the reminder
 
my domain home is called nerd.ads
 
@djsmiley2k yeah
and paracord
@Bob ._.
I think the sides of the bottle arn't parallel
 
hah i have a paracord bracelet
 
One thing I hate about NVIDIA: Licensing restrictions enforce vendor lock-in. NVIDIA does not license PhysX to AMD, does not allow developers to optimize GameWorks for competing hardware, and (presumably) does not allow display manufacturers to implement both G-SYNC and another dynamic refresh rate technology on the same display (otherwise you'd see displays with both).
 
Bob
2:42 PM
@JourneymanGeek camera perspective
I'm more worried about the measurement labels...
oh boy. here we go again
 
@Bob the measurement labels make sense if the walls weren't parellel, and it was at a funny handle?
 
Bob
<== being a hypocrite as usual :)
 
@bwDraco you just hate nvidia. We get it.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek uh?
increments of 2 up to 22, then 28, and increments of 1 up to 32?
 
@Bob vaguely!
 
Bob
2:43 PM
That'd have to be some pretty wonky sides for that to happen!
 
@Bob non eculidian. Designed to make men mad
 
I'm forced to choose NVIDIA not because I want to, but because NVIDIA makes the only usable solution for the games I play.
 
@bwDraco thing is. Fanboying is tiring for other folk. I don't typically go rawr, nvidia all the time do I?
we've had a few really long monologues on how evil nvidia is, for not letting AMD use a technology they own, and a platform they run....
 
rawr, nvidia all the time
 
Sorry for the disruption.
 
2:49 PM
@qwertyuiop I think intel's the most common graphics device in my household...
meh. intel.
 
So how do I learn to avoid this? I think I acted on emotion again.
 
@Bob I just realised for that to work, it needs to be wider at the top
er bottom?
yeah, that bottle warps the fabric of space and time notnods
@bwDraco I donno. How do we teach you to have a conversation.
I bitch. A lot
I have a hook, see if anyone cares, and walk away if no one does
For example the whole thing with the phone.
However, in between quite literally plastering the chatroom with AMD ads, and a lot of kvetching about nvidia... you're talking at people as opposed to talking to people
granted, we're talking about bootlaces and bottles that warp the fabric of time and space...
 
Not a topic I'm familiar with.
I'll be making some adjustments to improve my behavior here. That change is relatively simple so this should not be an issue any more.
I've promised not to act on emotion before. I'm very sorry I've failed.
I think I'm distancing myself from the community by doing this rather than actually joining in.
Not demanding attention is so hard.
So quick question: Is it worth it to do a time-consuming check (count to 10, etc.) before every message?
 
3:07 PM
donno. Do you think you need to?
At the end of the day, all those things are workarounds.
 
What I need is a real solution at the root cause, not a workaround.
 
Yup, and that's not something we can help you with
 
These last several days have been very stressful as I've been working with my parents in preparation for a move to another home. I'm trying to use this opportunity to make small but permanent improvements to self-control.
A lot's been happening lately and I hope to seize the chance to make myself a better person.
I stand by my word and I'll do my best to make sure this doesn't happen again.
Sorry if I derailed the original discussion.
 
3:51 PM
So... A few weeks ago, I looked into what would have been my most ambitious effort yet to improve my behavior.
Benjamin Franklin spent huge amounts of time improving his personal conduct and went out of the way to set up a journal to record any faults he had committed.
I'm evaluating doing something like this, modified to fit my specific behavioral goals.
Is it worth the time and effort? Are there simpler solutions?
I was looking into making a behavioral log document where I would record any noteworthy events (from a disciplinary standpoint) for each day.
Franklin's day started at 5 AM. Currently, I'm still struggling to get out of bed by 9 AM :\
(I'm aiming for a consistent 7 AM wake-up time.)
Mar 10 at 18:44, by bwDraco
Besides, my mom doesn't like my getting out of bed before 7 AM.
 
@bwDraco That might be a nuclear option, but it is very helpful
Whenever my Internet goes out and a message can't be delivered and I'm staring at it for thirty seconds, I usually realize that whatever I was going to say isn't all that important
 
My only tips are as follows: Find a good therapist - let it out there, try not to bring it here or anywhere else. Exercise more, watch your diet, forgive yourself - forgive others more than yourself.

Start loving who you are - stop flagellating yourself when you make mistakes. And don't dwell on past mistakes.

Done. Do this.
 
Right, you can keep a private Franklin-like journal if you like, but I think you'll feel better if you stop whipping yourself in public
 
^
stop whipping yourself period
I thought I was going to die yesterday... Trust me
I know what it's like to beat yourself up
 
Also, there's nothing wrong with seeing a therapist. I know lots of people who are great people and see a psych[ologist|iatrist] occasionally for some well-being-related tune-ups
 
4:02 PM
But coming from the girl that might die soon idk lol overreacting (my arm is still numb and won't stop being numb after a trip to the ER)
find a therapist to talk to - a bunch of them operate on a "sliding scale" which means they will see you even if you can't afford to pay them very much
try to identify external influences negatively effecting your mood and behavior and remove yourself from them
anyway, I'm going to sleep - but that's my woman's intuition on the issue. bye
 
@electronbeam whoa
You okay now ?
What happened ?
 
Feedback?
23 hours ago, by electronbeam
@djsmiley2k in fact I had a small scare today - my left arm kind of started to hurt in a weird way, and I was very concerned it was like a heart attack or a stroke or something
 
@bwDraco oh, what was the cause of it
 
@HackToHell Nothing obvious in the chat logs.
"What are your goals for today?" and "How well did you meet your goals today?" are inspired by Franklin's "What good shall I do this day?" and "What good have I done to-day?".
 
4:18 PM
Urgh, no wonder Agar was laggy. I was still set to connect to the SE Asia servers
@HackToHell -_-
 
@bwDraco Ah, funnily enough I am doing something similar
@qwertyuiop all in good faith
 
@HackToHell Look back at the chat log. I'd like to have some feedback.
 
and it's been helping me out a lot
That image ?
 
@qwertyuiop: Have you played slither.io yet?
 
wait lemme read up
 
4:19 PM
Yes. Further back is an explanation of what I'm intending to do.
 
@GuitarShoeDave Yes, it's awesome
 
I love it too!
 
@bwDraco can you link me to it ?
 
30 mins ago, by bwDraco
So... A few weeks ago, I looked into what would have been my most ambitious effort yet to improve my behavior.
 
I want to make sure this is a good template before I send it to my printer and print a bunch of copies of it.
 
4:23 PM
oh that;s it
I have a log of sorts on OneNote
 
@electronbeam WHAT
 
@bwDraco why not digital ?
I have my posts kinda tagged and when I fell the same I look back
I had some issues with impulsive decisions when angry
Way better at controlling them now :D
I wouldn't say it was because of my logs tho, they only kinda help me cope sometime.
 
@HackToHell Thought about it. Perhaps I'll just do it in the cloud, but I'd rather not be tethered to an electronic device whenever something needs to be logged.
 
@electronbeam whoa, is everything ok?
 
Digital certainly has the advantage of searchability, but I'll probably be printing the contents of the log once in a while.
 
5:06 PM
All the stuff @electronbeam said earlier is stuff i'd echo
tho i personally let stuff out anywhere that works
I found talking to 'strangers' helps, because I don't give a damn what they think
yet they'll generally be honest in return, as they don't give a damn what I think.
 
!!Caat
 
5:23 PM
that too
 
I want to punch something again. Not a person this time though.
Aww Clippy, how appropriate.
 
lol
 
xD
 
@qwertyuiop stress?? depression?
 
5:33 PM
@djsmiley2k Stress
 
:/
can wqe help? :D
 
Having to make 100 phone calls and arrange 200 things in a day
 
@qwertyuiop here's an idea: get a pillow suspended over your bed just like your monitor... Now you can punch something as soon as you wake up, and before you go to sleep! It will undoubtedly do marvels to your mood!
 
Can you help? Depends.
 
I mean seriously, the joy of waking up and seeing a pillow suspended over your head, waiting to be punched...
 
5:35 PM
Can you find me a home, a prostitute, a job, a laptop, and a motor vehicle that suits my needs within the next 24 hours?
 
hm... that should not be too difficult...
 
It is when I have about 500 "special requirements" with each one
 
@qwertyuiop well I need the last one
 
Oh and I need a new government too.
 
haha
we can't do that :(
we can't even leave something properly
 
5:37 PM
Well OK, the UK needs a new government, Scotland doesn't
 
HOME^
 
heh
my suggestion is stop caring about things outside your sphere of influence
 
Laptop^
 
Or run for president (or equivalent) and fix all the things
Except you'd have to simultaneously be president, all of Congress, and the Supreme Court to fix everything
 
5:39 PM
@BenN We don't have any of those in this country
 
Prostitute^
 
Oh I also need a very good psychotherapist.
 
^JOB
 
You sound like me a few years ago
 
Yes yes, I can find pictures of things on the internet myself just fine. I need actual things IRL
 
5:42 PM
then my daughter came along and I realised fuck everyone and everything else
As long as she's happy, I am
 
Lucky you
Are you suggesting unplanned pregnancy as an end to all my problems?
 
6:27 PM
lol no
sSometimes the solution isn't to fix the problem, it's to take a new point of view, and realise the problem doesn't actually matter
 
!!caat
 
7:45 PM
 
7:56 PM
;p
 
8:12 PM
youtube.com/watch?v=ZjAlrGzHAkI Crib notes to the endless mess the video is. the referance AMD 480 (in testing) can pull too much power from the PCI port, beyond spec. Few people have reported that it may have fired thier motherboard.
All the people testing , have not represented thier testing method well enough to determine where thier resistance losses are , WHY?
There can be HUGE variations in the power draw from the PCI port depending on the wire type, ammount of connections and even length of wire, how much copper etc.
 
Take for example a Modular power supply, and the 2 power connections that will be used to power a GPU.
Sometime the 24pin wire (to PCIslots) is short, it is often connected direct (not one added modular connection)
Many times the GPU wires are much longer , longer even still than the 24pin connection and the very copper very well done PCI power connect traces on the MB.
The AMD 480 referance model only make 3x power connection (+3 ground), the PCI itself makes 5.
Generally no GPU really required before that there be 2x8pin or 2X6pin, as 100 watts could potentially flow through each of these wires without even them heating. especially if they used good copper, which the PSU creators Fail on often.
But by Passing the power over more "metal" even if it is crappy wire, there is less resistance (or losses)
 
8:29 PM
so there are basically 3 solutions, or things to pay a little bit of attention to when building (any) computer, when trying to reduce the GPU power draw on the PCI bus.
1) Wait till someone makes a AMD 480 with 2XGPU wiring (6 or 8 does not matter)
2) Rebuild your modular GPU wiring with half descent wiring .
3) just generally check how bad off your PSU setup would make that, before turning it on.
Does anyone indicate that? no, instead it is AMD is going to throttle it even more :-(
https://youtu.be/ZjAlrGzHAkI?t=100 at this point in time of the video we can see the testing method they are using, the wire set, the connections. it is extensive to test using this method ( a job itself). but without extended LAB type analisis , and much more extensive math, and rechecking, and dropping the extensive resistance from bussbars, and connections, and in so much as using extreeme wiring.
The testing method can be slightly flawed.
Beyond the testing method being very hard to accomplish, the variation that will exist in everyone Elses setups , each builds (different computer) differances would be like night and day difference in what they discover.
(do they say that either? no!)
To summay a bit better. a GPU is connected using 2 Sets of "wiring". The motherboard 12V 24 pin connection to the PCI. and the GPU 6or8 pin wiring. Offsets in total resistance (or quality and length) between these 2 power sources, can change the ammount of draw from the more critical PCI port power wiring.
 
8:51 PM
Wish someone would have told me that there was a 50 pt SQL Server question posted
BRB
 
@GuitarShoeDave Good luck :) I notice that harry couldn't answer it ...
 
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