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10:00 PM
why so sad
 
I guess you don't know Gloria Gaynor. :P
 
nope
 
ah I know this tune
are you a linux guy?
 
No way. I have never been able to get into it. As soon as it breaks I run for the nice warm comfort of an MS product.
 
10:06 PM
same
as long as you aint a mac fan im fine :)
 
That doesn't mean I don't want to be a Linux guy. I've just never had the need to learn.
 
im the same
ive tried it and it was so awkward to use
and my hardware wasnt supported
Im not a fan of modern windows though
I like the older ones better
 
But... then your hardware is still not really supported. D:
 
thats one problem
but thats really down to the vendors
ont the OS
 
10:11 PM
if the HW is supported they run fast though
anything prior to vista im fine with except for some lesser known ones
 
Bob
@snipe Nup. Modern Windows (really, 7+) is going to be faster than older on a modern machine.
Whether older runs fast enough is subjective, but modern ones will run faster.
 
nope, DOS from ROM could boot up in like a second
 
Bob
@snipe Bootup time has nothing to do with OS efficiency.
And DOS would be terribly slow with any device access.
 
yeah
and networking
 
Bob
The primary advantage (IMO) 7 has over Vista is that they got rid of the big kernel dispatcher lock.
 
10:15 PM
7 is ok so far
it has had a few problems though
 
Bob
I don't know when Windows moved to two-level interrupt handling, but that would've improved device I/O a lot.
 
one time it did not boot up for a week and sort of decided to a week later
 
Bob
Oh, looks like it might've been with NT/2000: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Procedure_Call
 
could have been the hardware but I doubt it
 
Bob
@snipe Hm... usually startup problems are driver-related.
Or hardware-caused corruption.
 
10:17 PM
I cannot get used to windows 7's terrible UI
 
Bob
It's true that modern OSes are more complex.
But that does not automatically mean worse.
(Linux is complex. Hurd, as a microkernel, tries not to be... but it's still not usable yet so who knows.)
 
I cannot seem to find mouse properties in control panel and I hate the new window toolbars how everything is crammed together in some tiny icons
 
Bob
@snipe That's entirely subjective. I heavily prefer 7 over XP UI-wise.
The start menu search did wonders for my efficiency.
 
windows 7 looks like a badly designed web page that a kid would design
 
10:19 PM
something from yahoo geocities maybe
 
Bob
Once you get used to the workflow, it's a lot faster.
@snipe Funny you should say that. XP has been called a "Fisher-Price UI"
 
it has the same layout as windows has practically always had
 
Bob
@snipe The tiny icons is actually something 8 tried to change, funnily enough :P
 
I dont know why they changed it when it worked perfectly fine for like 20 odd years
 
Bob
@snipe Because, honestly, the old Windows UI wasn't great for tablets and touchscreens.
They made the mistake of forcing the change on desktop users too.
That was a bad move.
But the new UI is an advantage in an increasingly-common scenario.
IMO would've been better if they provided the option to choose (as 10 will apparently do).
 
10:22 PM
I cannot find 'copy to' in the mspaint on win7
that was a useful feature
everything in the new MS office is inside of one big button
 
@snipe You mean like WORD.EXE?
 
Bob
@snipe Ya, paint was dumbed down quite a bit. It did get transparency support in the process, though :P
 
options, customisation, that solves every need/desire
 
Bob
@snipe Eh... 2007 sucked. 2010 is actually somewhat intuitive (admittedly I still spend a bit of time looking for things). probably easier for first-time users to learn. 2013, I dunno
 
theres like an office icon on the left top of the window
usually buttons are not that big so I assumed it didnt do anything and spent ages looking for file, edit, etc
 
Bob
10:25 PM
@snipe You can display the ribbon bar at all times.
 
thats only for certain apps
 
Bob
I think all of Office allows that.
brb heading to work
 
ok
OK Ill need to make a service from an existing program (lidlock.exe)
error 1053 - the service did not respond to the start or control request in a timley fashion
I'd rather have a service than a startup item
brb
nah
nm nm nm
 
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