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snipe
10:00 PM
why so sad
Michael Frank
I guess you don't know Gloria Gaynor. :P
snipe
nope
Michael Frank
I Will Survive. Gloria Gaynor
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snipe
ah I know this tune
are you a linux guy?
Michael Frank
No way. I have never been able to get into it. As soon as it breaks I run for the nice warm comfort of an MS product.
snipe
10:06 PM
same
as long as you aint a mac fan im fine :)
Michael Frank
That doesn't mean I don't
want
to be a Linux guy. I've just never had the need to learn.
snipe
im the same
ive tried it and it was so awkward to use
and my hardware wasnt supported
Im not a fan of modern windows though
I like the older ones better
Michael Frank
But... then your hardware is still not really supported. D:
snipe
thats one problem
but thats really down to the vendors
ont the OS
Bob
Luke Smith - I Will Survive (Counter-Strike)
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:P
snipe
10:11 PM
if the HW is supported they run fast though
anything prior to vista im fine with except for some lesser known ones
Bob
@allquixotic
superuser.com/questions/936995/…
@snipe Nup. Modern Windows (really, 7+) is going to be faster than older on a modern machine.
Whether older runs fast
enough
is subjective, but modern ones will run
faster
.
snipe
nope, DOS from ROM could boot up in like a second
Bob
@snipe Bootup time has nothing to do with OS efficiency.
And DOS would be
terribly
slow with any device access.
snipe
yeah
and networking
Bob
The primary advantage (IMO) 7 has over Vista is that they got rid of the big kernel dispatcher lock.
snipe
10:15 PM
7 is ok so far
it has had a few problems though
Bob
I don't know when Windows moved to two-level interrupt handling, but that would've improved device I/O a lot.
snipe
one time it did not boot up for a week and sort of decided to a week later
Bob
Oh, looks like it might've been with NT/2000:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Procedure_Call
snipe
could have been the hardware but I doubt it
Bob
@snipe Hm... usually startup problems are driver-related.
Or hardware-caused corruption.
snipe
10:17 PM
I cannot get used to windows 7's terrible UI
Bob
It's true that modern OSes are more complex.
But that does not automatically mean worse.
(Linux is complex. Hurd, as a microkernel, tries not to be... but it's still not usable yet so who knows.)
snipe
I cannot seem to find mouse properties in control panel and I hate the new window toolbars how everything is crammed together in some tiny icons
Bob
@snipe That's entirely subjective. I heavily prefer 7 over XP UI-wise.
The start menu search did wonders for my efficiency.
snipe
windows 7 looks like a badly designed web page that a kid would design
Bob
snipe
10:19 PM
something from yahoo geocities maybe
Bob
Once you get used to the workflow, it's a lot faster.
@snipe Funny you should say that. XP has been called a "Fisher-Price UI"
snipe
it has the same layout as windows has practically always had
Bob
@snipe The tiny icons is actually something 8 tried to change, funnily enough :P
snipe
I dont know why they changed it when it worked perfectly fine for like 20 odd years
Bob
@snipe Because, honestly, the old Windows UI wasn't great for tablets and touchscreens.
They made the mistake of forcing the change on desktop users too.
That was a bad move.
But the new UI
is
an advantage in an increasingly-common scenario.
IMO would've been better if they provided the option to choose (as 10 will apparently do).
snipe
10:22 PM
I cannot find 'copy to' in the mspaint on win7
that was a useful feature
everything in the new MS office is inside of one big button
Michael Frank
@snipe You mean like WORD.EXE?
Bob
@snipe Ya, paint was dumbed down quite a bit. It did get transparency support in the process, though :P
Psycogeek
options, customisation, that solves every need/desire
Bob
@snipe Eh... 2007 sucked. 2010 is actually somewhat intuitive (admittedly I still spend a bit of time looking for things). probably easier for first-time users to learn. 2013, I dunno
snipe
theres like an office icon on the left top of the window
usually buttons are not that big so I assumed it didnt do anything and spent ages looking for file, edit, etc
Bob
10:25 PM
@snipe You can display the ribbon bar at all times.
snipe
thats only for certain apps
Bob
I think all of Office allows that.
brb heading to work
snipe
ok
OK Ill need to make a service from an existing program (lidlock.exe)
error 1053 - the service did not respond to the start or control request in a timley fashion
I'd rather have a service than a startup item
brb
nah
nm nm nm
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