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12:01 AM
Intel just launched new NVMe SSDs for enthusiasts
 
12:34 AM
> Did I say fire-breathing?
LOL
> The 750 Series is available now, and at less than $1 per GB we hope Intel has a few million of these in stock.
May seem a bit expensive for an SSD, but it's a small price to pay for ultimate performance.
...especially when that performance is built upon enterprise SSD technology.
> we hope Intel has a few million of these in stock.
That's a very bold statement to make.
Not a lot of people are equipped to boot from NVMe disks.
Windows 8.1 has full NVMe support (StorNVMe.sys), but bootability depends on whether the UEFI firmware supports it.
Not every board has firmware that supports booting from an NVMe device.
 
1:01 AM
> Storage so fast, only the highest-end PCs can keep up
Specified endurance is 70 GB per day over five years.
...or 219 TBW on the 1.2 TB model.
 
Hey there. Might I ask a quick Q about Win7 updates? It is stuck at the same update for over an hour now and I would like to know how I can find out if it crashed and what to do then... :-(
 
1:19 AM
@ByteCommander have you started the shutdown/reboot process?
 
No, it runs from the system control panel.
I am writing from this machine.
 
if you haven't started the shutdown/reboot process, there is no risk of losing data or breaking the system if you force it to shutdown/reboot. worst case, the update has to restart doing whatever it's doing
the only time you're REALLY not supposed to turn off during an update, is when it's applying updates at the screen where you can't do anything
on shutdown or as the system is booting up
 
The system still reacts, no need to hard reset.
I can click on "Cancel installation"
 
well if you think it's hung you can always just shutdown or reboot to try and free up whatever resource locks it may be waiting on
either wait as long as you're patient enough to do so, or reboot... you really don't have any other options
 
Will it continue where it stopped then? It took hours to download...
 
1:22 AM
I am starting to dislike Chrome's method of certification trust
why can't they just do both respect cert revocation and curl blacklists..
 
@ByteCommander in almost all circumstances, it will preserve the parts of the download that have completed
 
It is processing KB 2834140
That's update 77 of 176 to do...
 
is it making progress or stuck on that one?
 
what exactly was StackEgg?
 
I started the updates 6h ago, it started about 1:30h ago with the KB i said.
I remembered #77
CPU usage is close to zero, as well as HDD and network.
When it was running, it went up to about 50% some hours ago...
 
1:32 AM
crap
not good
This was the correct decision = arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/04/… even if Netflix wanted to provide CC for every video they couldn't since some content simply doesn't have it.
Goes to show Netflix shouldn't have settled :$
 
@Ramhound a psudo tomagatchie (small pocket pet with cheap lcd screen and a few buttons to feed and care for digital pet) google.com/… Set up as a game, to make a make-believe SE site, and push buttons simulating user input and moderation.
 
So a April Fools day joke?
which caused a performance issue?
 
fully playable with leaderboard.
 
superuser.com/questions/478779/… - software request with a bonus "me too" answer
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Q: Samsung "Smart stay" for Windows laptop

Juuso OhtonenSamsung uses technology named "Smart stay" on their Android devices (Samsung Galaxy S III): It waits till you're asleep: the screen maintains a bright display as long as you're looking at it. Samsung Smart stay Is there software to achieve the same behavior on a Windows laptop? Simply put...

( there we go )
I just got pinged but can't find the msg lol
 
@allquixotic I think it continued to work after I closed a window. It is still at #77, but CPU works again (TrustedInstaller.exe occupies again about 50%)
But it still works on that one... Maybe closing firefox helps too...?
 
1:47 AM
Smart stay , does not seem to be very nessisary even for android devices, everything will sleep in close enough due time when the user quits inputting , or that movie you pass out watching ends :-) Which just leaves passing out when in the middle of a video game. Solutions to that are having gone to bed 5 hours ago :-)
Whatever they call that in my android, i turned off, to save general power, as using the camera to watch me, is not conserving power, plus the minor program cpu use.
 
( alright? )
So now the "me to" answer explains he doesn't have enough for a comment...
*forhead slap
 
@Ramhound: yeah, it did
 
* confused what did?
 
I dont know, i can often edit these thing to remove the actual software rec, but there is no internal OS mechanism that could do that?
 
Should we its over 3 years old without a single attempt to answer the question ( that I can see ) until today which is a "me too" answer
Its to old to migrate
 
1:52 AM
The stackegg caused SE to slow down.
Converted it to a comment
 
* cheers
 
What's with the * ?
 
And indeed the MeeToo is not acceptable answer
 
you need one more to get it to italicise
 
why i like bold and tick marks better
:-)
 
1:53 AM
lol
That one....
was really hard to read XD
 
Stupidest line of comments on a question with 45 upvotes in my 3 years...
I tend to dig in...
 
ya ;p
hm. I need double sided tape.
 
My last edit was passive aggressive, i had simple forgot those instances, passive aggressive would have been to bold everything and "yell" at everyone.
* wasnt
 
@Ramhound it looks like a migrate, but is not, belongs here with lappies and desktops, he is only referring back to a known , how it works in android phones.
 
( wonders if I have multiple chatroom windows open )
oh nevermind
 
1:56 AM
unless of course it was migrated to sofware rec
 
@Psycogeek - He specifically wanted a software recommendation. Seems like it should go to software rec, but due to its age, i doubt that can be done.
Even if it can be done should it due to the age of it?
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Q: Android Reverse usb tethering

RogUEI have been trying to share windows pc internet to my android tablet( I Ball Slide, Jellybean) over usb, there is an option in "settings" to share internet, but I can't use internet in my device. When I open "Network and Sharing center", screenshot is given below It shows two networks, firt one h...

I can't tell if this should go to Android or stay here, since it barely fits the android device connected to pc" element.
 
Involves a PC
as for the smart stay question, close as OT, or edit it in the form of a "is there any way" question
 
@JourneymanGeek, did you see the new Intel SSD 750?
 
It's an NVMe drive for enthusiasts
...and it's fast as greased lightning
 
2:01 AM
tho, NVMe will need to wait for my next refresh
 
@Ramhound I do not know , it is still valid, there have been people seeking it in more recent times, but the orignal questioner could have moved on.
 
The drive isn't exactly cheap, but $390 for 400 GB is a small price to pay for ultimate performance
It is so fast, you can't expect to max it out without becoming CPU-bound on all but the most powerful systems.
 
I find no duplicate of the Camera watching standby thing at software rec.
(not that searches on SE sites are that useful)
 
Get this: 2.2 GB/s peak sequential read speed and 430,000 read IOPS on the 400 GB model!
 
thats pretty good
 
2:08 AM
That's a huge understatement. This is 4x the performance of an SATA SSD.
Write performance as a bit slower than some competing PCIe SSDs, but this is due to the enterprise heritage of the SSD 750 (it's based on the SSD DC P3700).
The one thing that's truly lacking here is the absence of an 800 GB model.
 
Do you connect it direct to the CPU with 8 PCI lanes to achieve that? The things that are slow for me now, with 4Xraid0 and SSD are "loading" times , games loading times changed some with ssd, but not miraculous. truely the whole array of things that has to happen, de-compress, send to video card texture ram, assemble world, is all going way slower than the SSD can.
 
@Psycogeek 4 lanes, direct to CPU in typical configurations.
It'll saturate the slower PCIe 2.0 on the PCH.
 
2:23 AM
De-code de-mux and display waverform a full audio file off media, way slower than the ssd can spew it out.
Copying Stuff, is so easy to be a background task, soo even though that moves much better now, it makes little differance when human can sleep for 8 hours with copy continuing.
 
Intel's SSDs are no longer mobile-oriented.
 
Program opening is a joke, the most time taken is when the program itself is a joke :-) and loads in piles of stuff that may not ever even be used.
 
The focus is on enterprise, with enthusiast SSDs built on datacenter tech.
 
Then any paging stuff (the bane of speed in every case) is solutioned with either proper ram, or better programming.
 
For non-extreme builds, I would just get a Samsung SSD 850 PRO.
If it's cost-sensitive, I'd look at the Samsung SSD 850 EVO.
An NVMe drive of this sort really only belongs in a high-end enthusiast-class desktop.
I've had my SSD 850 PRO for about 3-1/2 months and have nothing but good things to say about it.
 
2:31 AM
Me enthusiest builder, but i think i still want 20G (for any single thread) cpu processing :-)
@DragonLord And what does the dragon ever "sit and wait" for the computer to do something?
What is the slowest thing you have to wait for now that you have ssd?
 
Almost always the CPU in single-threaded workloads.
When I bought this laptop, I had selected the Intel Core i7-4800MQ.
The base i7-4700MQ (and variants thereof) is found in a lot of laptops and I wanted something a bit faster—2.4 GHz nominal is too slow for my taste.
The i7-4800MQ, which is 300 MHz faster, was a +$185 option. The next step up was the i7-4900MQ, which adds another 100 MHz and has a fully-enabled 8 MB L3 cache (as opposed to 6 MB), was another $185 on top of that.
That 300 MHz difference was definitely worth it.
 
SSD fixed photoshop loading by much and much. Program opens quick, but then it used to be slow even with raid , to load all the plug-ins small parts and pieces. I used to even disable the ones i do not use. Same thing with Video editing program. That small file random stuff, that raid0 does not fix at all.
 
In any case, storage performance is just not a bottleneck for me any more.
(Having 24 GB of RAM helps, too.)
 
2:47 AM
@DragonLord that is a lot of money for the next processor up, I would be contemplating that kind of spending (before spending it) for some time. then forgot about it 5 minutes after having it in hand :-)
 
The i7-4900MQ, one of the very few mobile processors available in a retail box, costs $560 on Newegg.
High-end mobile processors are very expensive.
 
@DragonLord I don't have enough PCIe slots or lanes on my mainstream Ivy Bridge architecture to handle another PCIe device :(
I have a SoundBlaster Z, an Adaptec 6405E, and two x16 GPUs.
would have to upgrade to something like Skylake or Broadwell-E to have enough lanes
 
At build time, the top-of-the-line processor was the i7-4930MX Extreme Edition, adding another $350 (if I'm not mistaken) on top.
 
anyone have any idea about how big the memory footprint of of the windows 7 gadgets platform would be?
memory as in ram
 
@KD8NXH the "sidebar" desktop gadgets? i still us a large array of them, where do you want me to get the number from?
 
2:54 AM
yes, the sidebar.
what do you mean "where" do you want me to get the number from?
 
Task manager?
 
yes
sorry if i was not clear enough in what i said. @Psycogeek
 
Bob
@DragonLord Eh. I got an i7-4710MQ (base). The performance difference in real use is negligible, though.
 
Sidebar. exe ~198,000K "private working set" the display in resmon has other stuff, and completly different numbers?
 
189,000 K what, Bytes?, Kilobytes?
what does resmon say?
 
3:00 AM
It says K, 200meg if i am reading right. res mon says 230M commit, 250M working , 50M sharable, 200M private
Did i mention i use a lot of them :-) like a rainmeter setup.
 
0_0
That worked for me, and was rediculously simple ._.
 
Bob
wut
 
got some old free multimeters / ohm meters / voltage generator today
The variable transformed I just cleaned up a bit has a service tag from 75 on the back... the inside has something (looks like '45) scrawled with a signature
 
Bob
3:16 AM
@ekaj are they good multimeters?
It they're the cheap crap I'd sooner toss them in the trash...
 
a few are nice
they're old analog though
 
@ekaj I've got a 5+ year old Craftsman multimeter that ran me $30 when I got it, still works
Microammeter is shot, but the voltmeter is still okay
 
yeah my radioshack 30 dollar one has been doing me fine
 
Accuracy is pretty good, but not as good as a much more expensive Fluke
 
I need a new one
My dad burnt out the screen on mine
 
3:19 AM
I've been using mine almost daily with no serious issues so far.
 
i didn't even know they made something called a resistivity meter
except half of this stuff takes a 22.5v battery(?)
I'd never seen one until today
 
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(googled it. Found two different formfactors)
 
about same size as a 9v, but terminals on opposite ends
good thing the variable transformer works I guess..
 
Bob
@DragonLord It's not accuracy you should be concerned about, it's safety.
 
we also donated a bunch of VAXes / really old computers I can't remember the names of to a museum today
 
Bob
3:26 AM
A cheap multimeter works with low-voltage low-current measurements... and that's about it.
Never ever stick a cheap multimeter into anything with a high enough voltage to kill. Same goes for > 1 A.
The fuse on a cheap multimeter is just as likely to send glass shards through you as it is to not blow in time.
If it even has a fuse.
(When I say "cheap", I don't necessarily mean price - there's pretty good sub-$50 ones.)
 
in cheap i am having problems with meter leads being very poorly made, replacement, which should have solved the wear and tear, were worse than the old stuff. how something designed only to connect , fails at that one task.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Why would you replace the leads in a cheap one? o.O
Pretty sure the replacement would cost a good chunk of the original meter price
 
Insulation exposed where the end connections are, bananna plugs that dont stay connected, which is almost impossible. crappy plastic on the probe handles.
 
PDP9? ;p
 
yea get me some good 'merican or german or swiss made ones, from that factory that sent all its work to china
 
3:35 AM
There were a few PDPs.. there were some others too
stop.
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
4:31 AM
 
looks so cool
 
4:52 AM
yep lol
 
 
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6:33 AM
 
6:58 AM
Bleh, need to decide a professionalish .me domain
Apparently the offer ends sonnish
 
 
1 hour later…
8:21 AM
Any good video downloader similar to Firefox addon - DownloadHelper?
 
 
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1:44 PM
o/
@HackToHell gowtham.me is taken :P (unless that's you)
 
@allquixotic unfortunately not me :/
 
gowthie.me isn't taken :D
oh, wait. professional. nvm
 
Bob
hack.me, though that's just tempting fate :P
 
@Bob already taken; that's a legitimate site run by eLearnSecurity for learning how to pentest
the community and/or eLearnSecurity uploads websites containing a vulnerability, with a sort of guide or answer key to help people discover the exploit on their own (if they're clever) or at least learn what to look for and memorize the signature of the vulnerability (if the user is less creative)
 
This is too hard :/
@allquixotic isn't that girlie ;p
 
Bob
@HackToHell I pity any girl named "Gowthie"
Though, I suppose the same could be said for anyone with that name, regardless of gender...
 
2:26 PM
lol
goutami is a valid female name ;p
 
@Bob aye, bobie
 
also, might be badly written as gouthame.
or bobbie
of course, neither is as bad as being called ashley ._.
 
Bob
2:52 PM
@allquixotic So... KitKat for the I9505 started in Feb last year. Australia got it in Aug. Lollipop started Feb this year. Any bets for when Aus will get it? :P
 
@Bob Probably around the same time Verizon gets it, at least for the Note 4.
I'm betting late July for the Note 4 Lollipop release on Verizon.
 
Bob
@allquixotic I haven't even installed the KK update yet.
Unsure if I'll try Lollipop
<== has had bad experiences with upgrades
Also, KK completely trashes SD support
 
if you don't use Bluetooth to listen to music, the KitKat upgrade is fine, and generally beneficial to performance and battery life
I'm very afraid of Lollipop though
 
Bob
(my bet is Google wants to promote its cloud crap)
 
btw, I get lag on certain webpages using Chrome Stable on Windows 8.1 in a VM on my work laptop running Windows 7 with 8 GB of RAM and an SSD, so I'm going to try switching to Firefox stable and see how it goes
I haven't used FF much lately except on my phone, where Chrome is completely useless due to the lack of extensions
the VM has 3.8 GB of RAM allocated to it; gotta keep it low to allow the boat anchor security software on the host (and IBM Lotus) to eat their gigs of RAM
and the VM runs on a single virtual core because more causes horrid stuttering of any audio
 
Bob
3:04 PM
@allquixotic interesting, but odd
You really should have multicore :\
 
I notice that the rendering perf is slightly better in the VM when it's multi-core, but that apparently starves either the hypervisor or the host OS of resources to push sound smoothly without dropouts
can't have both responsiveness and high throughput, I guess
you can with something like (native) Linux's awesome scheduler, but VMware is decidedly less well-optimized than the Linux kernel
 
3:36 PM
KK is smoother
 
 
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5:26 PM
I want this guys laptop.
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Q: Why does laptop's battery drain only when I am playing Minecraft?

Joshua FoxI got a new power supply/cord for my Asus N550JV-CN191H, after my old one tore. The new one works fine, and the power indicator (Ubuntu 14.04) shows that the battery is charging, except when I play Minecraft, and then the battery is shown to be draining. Could it be because the output of the new...

 
A plot of my laptop's data overnight
PSA : Sorta makes the browser hangup
 
5:44 PM
> sorta
 
 
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11:35 PM
Why so quiet?
It's holiday overseas too?
 
11:49 PM
can anybody check my profile and see if the e-mail is shown? I am sure it isn't public but i want to know.
 
@Psycogeek Email addresses are considered private and as such are never immediately shown (to my knowledge).
It should be in the "private" section, no?
 
that it is, but years ago when i was first here, there was none at all, just want to be sure.
Somewhere in time, the SE picked up the e-mail and "name" from the google login thing. (that was back in time quite a bit)
 
To my knowledge, non-mods can't see emails
Unless you plaster them all over your profile summary, like yours truly ;D
 
lol
You made that sound like Mods Can see e-mails marked as private? Not that i would have any problem with any of our mods seeing it.
 

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