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bwDraco
bwDraco
12:00 PM
I'm starting to come to my senses after two days of FUD.
Come to think of it, a name change was the right thing to do, but there wasn't a genuine need to panic.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Lol yup
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
The issue, despite being of a legal nature, likely could have been mediated by a CM,
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
We don't have private chat rooms tho
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
@JourneymanGeek Mods can create private rooms for moderation purposes.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Leathe if its an ip its an A name
@bwDraco nope
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
12:02 PM
It's not too late. The name change was probably the right call, but we can get rid of the uncertainty (regarding unchangeable names, etc.) by bringing it up to chat.
 
Leathe
Leathe
@JourneymanGeek yeah, that's what I was thinking
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
@JourneymanGeek Did this change?
 
Leathe
Leathe
I just had to check after I made a comment to a question
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
nope
we can invite people to rooms
but there's no way to pull a regular user into a 'private' room no one else can see AFAIK
Proper thing would be 1. Talk to us
2. We'd refer it to a CM
3. Let the CM handle it over email and such
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
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A: Do the moderators/SE employees have some type of private communication channel?

OdedModerators and employees have private chat rooms (that are invite only). There are a few such private rooms around - most sites have a specific mod only chat or two, and there is also a room for mods of all sites. And of course there is email - employees have access to email addresses of mode...

I'm going to email team@stackexchange to see if they could act as a mediator of sorts.
I kinda regret this change, but I still think it was legally necessary.
 
Leathe
Leathe
12:08 PM
trademark issue? o.O
 
qasdfdsaq
qasdfdsaq
@Leathe I don't know the full story but it sounds like someone complained DragonLord's name was violating their trademark and he has to change it.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Yes, that's the case.
 
Leathe
Leathe
That's.. insane
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
I'm questioning whether the name change was necessary, but better safe than sorry.
 
Leathe
Leathe
I wonder if it's okay to ask who made the complaint?
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
12:18 PM
A relationship indeed exists and I don't want to falsely claim otherwise.
So the complaint is meritorious.
However, this could have been better handled via SE rather than off-site.
There exists a relationship between dragonlord.com and seqcon.com; operated by the same person.
 
Leathe
Leathe
I stand by my previous statement regarding the name change - still insane that you had to change it.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Done I guess
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@bwDraco I can't find any relevant trademarks for "Dragonlord" at tmsearch.uspto.gov
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Odd. No longer current?
Someone else did find a result at Trademarkia.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
The only one DragonLord enterprises has is for the word mark "SILVER TONGUE"
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
12:25 PM
Probably unregistered.
Bizarre...
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
So,,,
someone just bullied you into it
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Weird.
I'll be in touch with a CM.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
(also, I'll make a laughing stock of whoever tries it with me ;))
 
qasdfdsaq
qasdfdsaq
goes off and registers Journeyman Geek as a trademark
 
Leathe
Leathe
Hah @qasdfdsaq I already beat you to it.
mwahaha
 
qasdfdsaq
qasdfdsaq
12:27 PM
Dammit
Every fucking time.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
I'll probably revert some of the username changes.
I'll investigate this further, and will come to a decision within the next few days.
 
Leathe
Leathe
I'm gonna go make a user called Silver Tongue
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
"I refer you to the reply given in Arkell v. Pressdram (1979). Furthermore, considering the incalculable goodwill surrounding the name, and the merits of your claim being somewhat akin to the leavings of my dog after a good walk, and that your trademark covers ( ), and there's less danger of them confusing you for me, than me for you...."
@bwDraco: check where they are incorporated?
Time for a law.se question? ;p
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Came from a valid email address representing the company.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Dosen't matter
question is is there a reasonable chance of someone confusing you with them?
 
Leathe
Leathe
12:32 PM
 
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek In a commercial capacity*
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Yup
 
Leathe
Leathe
I'm not mocking you
I'm mocking them.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
The trademark claim may or may not be valid. It would be necessary to consult an attorney to determine what's going on.
 
Leathe
Leathe
I apologize if it came out in that way
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
12:35 PM
Pretty sure there's a relationship.
...and research seems to indicate there likely is a valid claim, even if borderline.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@bwDraco: Question is really, is there grounds for you needing to abandon what seems a fairly generic online identity.
 
Bob
Bob
> Any person who, on or in connection with any goods or services, or any container for goods, uses in commerce any word, term, name, symbol, or device, or any combination thereof, or any false designation of origin, false or misleading description of fact, or false or misleading representation of fact...
> The owner of a famous mark shall be entitled, subject to the principles of equity and upon such terms as the court deems reasonable, to an injunction against another person's commercial use in commerce of a mark or trade name, if such use begins after the mark has become famous and causes dilution of the distinctive quality of the mark, and to obtain such other relief as is provided in this subsection.
§ 43 (d) is interesting. The " Cyberpiracy prevention. ".
> A person shall be liable in a civil action by the owner of a mark, including a personal name which is protected as a mark under this section, if, without regard to the goods or services of the parties, that person
> has a bad faith intent to profit from that mark [and] registers, traffics in, or uses a domain name that--

(I) in the case of a mark that is distinctive at the time of registration of the domain name, is identical or confusingly similar to that mark; (II) in the case of a famous mark that is famous at the time of registration of the domain name, is identical or confusingly similar to or dilutive of that mark; or (III) is a trademark, word, or name protected by reason of section 706 of title 18, United States Code, or section 220506 of title 36, United States Code.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
 
Bob
Bob
> In determining whether a person has a bad faith intent described under subparagraph (A), a court may consider factors such as, but not limited to--
 
Dave
Dave
@Bwdraco: Im a DBA what database platform do you use by chance?
btw morning @Bob
 
Bob
Bob
12:40 PM
> ... (IV) the person's bona fide noncommercial or fair use of the mark in a site accessible under the domain name; (V) the person's intent to divert consumers from the mark owner's online location to a site accessible under the domain name that could harm the goodwill represented by the mark, either for commercial gain or with the intent to tarnish or disparage the mark, by creating a likelihood of confusion as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of the site;
@Dave Morning.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
@Dave I'd want to suggest PostgreSQL.
 
Bob
Bob
@bwDraco Basically, considering you are not using that name for any commercial purposes and do not profit from it and did not use it in bad faith (to intentionally impersonate or seek other gain from the trademark owner)... I'd say if it ever came to civil court you'd probably have a very strong case.
 
Dave
Dave
bwDraco: Ah, was hoping I had some queries that I wrote that would allow you to datamine your data for particular strings to help you out. But I havent written anything that will work with pgsql
 
Bob
Bob
But, yea, consult an actual lawyer.
For the most part, I'd consider this bullying.
2
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Ya
 
Bob
Bob
12:42 PM
(Note also that under trademark law you are at risk of losing your trademark if you do not pursue cases of infringement to some extent -- these letters are actually somewhat common and often nothing comes of them, except they have them to point to if they're ever at risk of losing the mark.)
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
"The current federal status of this trademark filing is CONTINUED USE NOT FILED WITHIN GRACE PERIOD, UN-REVIVABLE"
Application number 74468210
Current trade mark status Registration cancelled
 
Bob
Bob
@DavidPostill Trademarks do not have to be registered
Buut that usually means they have even less of a case.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
This is a brand page for the DRAGONLORD trademark by Myers, John in Encinitas, CA, 92024. (ex) prsident of DragonLord Enterprises
 
Bob
Bob
@DavidPostill This is all fairly pointless, since he's not using it for commercial purposes anyway :P
> Bad faith intent described under subparagraph (A) shall not be found in any case in which the court determines that the person believed and had reasonable grounds to believe that the use of the domain name was a fair use or otherwise lawful.
Note that that subsection was specifically to prevent domain squatting.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
On second thought, it would seem this is more a business competitive dispute than an actual legal dispute.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
12:46 PM
Sequoia Consulting is composed of John K. Myers, et al
 
Leathe
Leathe
@bwDraco between SE and them?
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Between me and them.
Research indicates that the brand seems to be no longer used, but I can't really confirm it.
 
Bob
Bob
@bwDraco It's not, because you are not a business and you are not using it for any commercial purpose.
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
Using VLC video player and don't know how to resize window while keeping aspect ratio. Is this possible?
 
Bob
Bob
@Boris_yo Try holding shift or ctrl?
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
12:48 PM
I know that something like this is possible in Paint.NET graphic editor...
@Bob Doesn't work.
 
Bob
Bob
@Boris_yo Actually, it keeps the aspect ratio anyway.
It doesn't stretch the video.
Just fills in extra space with black.
 
Leathe
Leathe
In any case, did @bwDraco want his name back or not, the SE team should be contacted to see if they think giving the name back to him is doable without risk of actual legal action.
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
@Bob Indeed!
 
Bob
Bob
Go Video => Always Fit Window to do that.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Changing his name back isn't really an issue.
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
12:50 PM
@Bob There's "Scale" option. I should disable it too?
 
Bob
Bob
12/20.
@Boris_yo Where?
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
 
Dave
Dave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSWqx8goqSY

Not trademark related, but this is probably one of the funniest i've seen related to copyright infringement @ defcon.
 
Bob
Bob
@Boris_yo Odd. You have different options from me. Which version?
@Dave tl;dw :P
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
@Bob o.0 v1.1.11 ...
 
Bob
Bob
12:53 PM
@Boris_yo Old. Very old.
2.2.1 is the current version.
 
Dave
Dave
lol, its a story about textfiles.com where the maintainer had this crazy guy trying to go after him for stupid copyright claims.
 
Bob
Bob
You should update.
 
Dave
Dave
Its great
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
Does anyone have Ubuntu 14.04.3 running somewhere ?
What's the current kernel version for that
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
@Bob I am proponent of not fixing what works already. Especially when it comes to updating Android apps... But VLC I should update.
 
Bob
Bob
12:53 PM
1.1.11 was late 2011. A bit over 4 years ago.
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
I seem to be on 3.13.0-66-generic
 
Bob
Bob
In fact, it was the last 1.x version.
 
Dave
Dave
1.1.11 is soo 1995
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
@Bob They have repository for older versions?
 
Bob
Bob
@Boris_yo Yea, generally I avoid unnecessary updates even though I know it's a bad idea :P
But there have been significant advancements in video decoding in recent years.
Including much better hardware accelerated decoding.
And then there's new codec support.
However, new VLC did drop a couple features... e.g. playing MIDI.
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
12:55 PM
@Bob Any reason?
 
Dave
Dave
oh vlc.. I thought you were talking about kernel version
haha
 
Leathe
Leathe
 
Bob
Bob
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
@Bob Do you usually install over existing version or uninstall old and install new?
 
Bob
Bob
@Boris_yo Hm. Usually I try the update first.
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
12:57 PM
@Leathe Aha so you can install 3.19
 
marcusdoesstuff
marcusdoesstuff
:o
 
Bob
Bob
 
Leathe
Leathe
So it would seem
 
marcusdoesstuff
marcusdoesstuff
Asus 1440p 144hz gsync ips is coming out
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
 
marcusdoesstuff
marcusdoesstuff
12:58 PM
165hz apparently (not that anyone would notice the difference)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
Someone might!
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
@Bob When installing do you enable Mozilla plugin and ActiveX plugin? What is usually default before VLC is installed? What application is reponsible for playing back in Mozilla and through ActiveX?
 
Leathe
Leathe
overclock it to 180Hz!
 
Bob
Bob
@Boris_yo Nope. No need to.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Overclock it to...
Over 9000
 
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