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Bob
12:00 AM
@allquixotic Heh, I can think of a few Lumia phones that would fit those requirements! :P
 
@Bob uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
 
@Bob supporting tethering? plz
and Verizon 4G LTE?
 
Bob
WinPhone8 does tethering with no issues, last I checked.
 
@Bob Verizon is rolling out new LTE bands, faster speeds, new technologies, etc. incrementally approximately every 18-24 months. Given how many towers they have to support, that's a wicked fast pace! And that also means I have to buy a new phone every 2 years at the latest to keep up with the latest LTE tech. I'm actually extremely concerned about having the latest LTE chipset supporting all the bands, etc.
 
Bob
Lumias tend to have pretty weak CPUs and GPUs, and can be a bit lacking on RAM.
But they tend to have great battery life, especially with most having 2000 mAh batteries.
That 1320 has a 3400 mAh batt.
 
12:03 AM
LTE Advanced is still a few years out, but when you compare the original Verizon LTE rollout to what I have today, the current implementation is about 3 times faster (!), with 5 times higher upstream, and 10x better SNR and resistance to building wall attenuation.
If you keep the same phone things won't get faster, but if you upgrade, you get the incremental benefits.
 
Bob
> LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
 
@Bob not bad
 
Bob
> RM-994 - global version
RM-995 - LTA version
RM-996 version with HSDPA (21 Mbps), HSUPA (5.76 Mbps)
> 4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 - RM-994
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - RM-995
Hm.
LTE on 700 seems to be on the LTA version only.
But it is WinPhone, not Android.
And it is rather weak, CPU/GPU/RAM-wise.
Pity.
 
@Bob aside from listening to streaming media (more audio than video) and tethering, I don't need much muscle. I need enough muscle to host a 2-device WiFi network and push bits between the devices and from the baseband to the devices and back.
I don't think I've had a phone that's CPU-limited on the tethering since before 2010
The G3 is too power-hungry compared to its battery size for my tastes. If it had another 33% battery capacity I might buy it.
Although, I could consider the possibility of an extended battery (with an alternate back piece, if available)
if one exists, that could be a reason to buy the G3
 
Bob
@allquixotic S5 is cat4 already, though. LTE cat3 is already previous-gen.
 
12:09 AM
@Bob oh, you're right... damn
pretty sure my Droid Maxx is Cat3.
 
Bob
@allquixotic No, it just says "LTE" everywhere. No category listed...
I wouldn't be surprised if it were cat2.
cat3 seems to be a 2013 thing, primarily.
 
honestly, at this point, I'm just going to wait to see what the actual specs on the new Motorola/Lenovo device is, and what the actual specs are on the Note 4, and once I see the three device choices laid out in front of me (Note 4, Droid Ultra+1, and LG G3), I'll pick one...
none of the devices will make me 100% happy, guaranteed :P
but if the G3 has an optional extended battery, I could probably make it work
 
Bob
@allquixotic Just wondering, why the G3 over the Note 4 or S5?
 
Just bought 2x 2TB internals from Amazon for $40NZD cheaper than I could get them locally. -_-
 
@Bob S5: I'm trying to avoid going with Samsung's TouchWiz; I really am :P although the Note 4 makes up for it by obviating the need for a tablet, so I can ditch my tablet, which is always nice
Note4: I didn't say I won't get the Note4, only that I'm leaning LG G3 right now because the Note4 is very much an unknown, and for all we know, its bat life could be horrid, in which case I will avoid it at all costs
 
12:18 AM
eh. My mom's phone is sucking battery like nuts. I might be able to upgrade her to a Redmi or moto G ;p
 
Bob
@allquixotic You could always flash it, though you'll void the warranty.
 
@Bob phones come locked, here
 
also may not help with battery life
 
Bob
I've managed to mostly avoid TouchWiz by using Nova Launcher.
Though you'll need a full custom ROM to get rid of it entirely.
 
what would be awesome is if the S5 GPE (which is hopefully going to be a thing, though, not yet announced) worked on Verizon
 
Bob
12:20 AM
@allquixotic Locked here too, but that's exactly what custom ROM devs work around.
 
@Bob the "ROM devs" don't work around locked bootloaders / lack of root. the hacking community (which loves to install rootkits along with giving you #) does that
 
Bob
@allquixotic And they are often the same people, what a surprise :P
 
@Bob No, many of the ROM devs are 12.
CHECK OUT MY CUSTOM ROM> IT HAS RAINBOW UNICRON LOLOL
 
my phone's bootloader has never been unlocked, except through some EXTREMELY shady (and probably illegal) method that involves sending your IMEI/MEID to a Chinese guy on ebay (along with a sum of money) in return for an "unlock key", which is evidently from a stolen database.
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank The quality ones, not the "most", then :P
That reminds me of "Windows 7 Gamerz Pro"
 
12:24 AM
@allquixotic Oh yea, that game I played lastnight with the Serbians was insane. My lane partnered randomed and got viridian... then proceeded to stand there and just not kill anything.
 
although I notice that the tendency for there to be unlock/root exploits is much higher on more popular devices like the Galaxy S series
@MichaelFrank oy
 
@Bob Remember WinXP Black?
 
Bob
@allquixotic ...no sending device IDs here. No codes here. Just chuck it in download mode, flash with Odin.
As long as you can get into download mode.
 
@allquixotic: locking phones is illegal here ;p
 
Bob
I had a phone (S2) with a locked bootloader: only allowed Chinese ROMs. You could just flash the bootloader (of course, somewhat risky).
 
12:26 AM
@Bob to be honest, I really don't want to dick with my production (primary) phone at all. I'm fine with dicking with a secondary Android device like a tablet that I can afford to lose for a few days due to a brick
 
@MichaelFrank heh. I used to have a copy of XP xperience.
 
Bob
@allquixotic Yea, I'd prefer not to too :P
 
Moto's firmware is vanilla enough that I'm fine with not rooting it
 
Bob
That's why I don't bother with custom ROMs. But I do need root.
 
at least on my current device
 
Bob
12:26 AM
If only so I can use Titanium Backup.
My S2 was worse; it didn't even come with Google Play.
 
@Bob my phone has a feature built into Android that lets me disable apps I don't want, which is like freezing them in titanium backup
 
Bob
That one needed to be rooted.
 
even bloatware apps can be disabled :D :D
my HTC Thunderbolt needed to be rooted - HTC Sense UI. ugh
but I can deal with Motorola's very light-handed modifications to Android
 
lol
Does moto actually do any mods?
I only noticed a scattering of minor apps, and the boot screen
 
@JourneymanGeek Verizon/Moto dicked with the lock screen, the dialer, and the notification bar a bit.
mostly coloring/themeing.
 
12:29 AM
ahh
@allquixotic: my moto G is practically stock
Heck, I ended up loading the motorola flash light app ;p
whoot
My crashkit is on its way here. Quadcoptor hasn't shipped yet ;p
 
Bob
@allquixotic Yea, that was the original reason for TB. But now I actually use it for backups. It was invaluable for migrating my apps to my new phone.
 
hi
 
Bob
...wtf
> Bosspvz2 has invited you to join FIFA Games. See your invitations.
 
plz join and whats your problem with it
:(
 
Bob
Well, it was an entirely unsolicited invitation from someone I don't know to something I honestly don't care much about.
And I'm on the mobile interface, so it popped up a giant message taking up the whole screen.
Surprised me, is all.
 
12:34 AM
oh sorry
 
Bob
@Bosspvz2 It's not really a problem; just surprising.
Also probably better in future to just paste a link rather than explicitly inviting certain users, if you want general (i.e. not specific) people to join some discussion room.
 
you were the first person i invited @Bob ...... i postedd the urls everywhere else... just saying.
 
I'm 12 and what is this
 
huh?
@MichaelFrank , i am inviting you.
 
@Bosspvz2 I don't need an invite, I'm not a fan of FIFA games.
 
12:44 AM
ok...
@MichaelFrank how about minecraft?
 
12:59 AM
lol
@MichaelFrank: brb, suspending you for a year ;p
@Bosspvz2: meh. Spamming people invites for your room is not polite.
 
1:12 AM
o0
There's a cracking sound coming from my laptop PSU
I'll go dig up and switch to my spare but o0
 
@JourneymanGeek haha, nooo!
 
1:34 AM
@JourneymanGeek not good :(
 
@allquixotic: all our current laptops use the newer lenovo chargers, swapped for a lower wattage model for now
I probably wouldn't have noticed if I didn't have better hearing than most humans ;p
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@JourneymanGeek lol
 
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Q: Home wifi to phone 1 mile away

Bob EllisWhat do I need to get my home WiFi to reach my phone at work a 1/4 mile away. Any help? I have looked all over for an answe but can not find one.

Maybe he could get a wifiex!
 
@Bob I just figured out how to build the Selenium WebDriver with what I need, while skipping all the bullshit (tests, Ruby bindings, Python bindings, .NET bindings, etc. etc.)
(1) check out Selenium source code
(2) install Java 7 (Oracle OR OpenJDK) -- JDK is required, not just JRE
(3) apply my patch
(4) -- my next chat line (I need ``)
./go //java/client/src/org/openqa/selenium:client-combined:uber
that produces client-combined-standalone.jar (deep in a directory tree somewhere) which is about 40 MB of images, CSS, browser addons, XML, and .class files -- the built Selenium binary needed by so-chatbot-driver.
 
1:49 AM
wait it's only 26 MB
I have no idea why they had to invent their own build system... ant, maven, cmake, GNU Autotools... so many good build systems exist already, it's stupid they had to write one
cmake would probably be perfect for this project
there's my patch btw @Bob
it applies cleanly (with patch / git apply fixing whitespace errors automatically) against 2.42.2
 
@JourneymanGeek as true as that is, it's actually not a case of that -- they aren't trying to make a build system that works for absolutely everyone. they just wanted a build system that works for Selenium
Selenium is weird, since it's approximately 6 or 7 mostly-independent implementations of the exact same thing, rather than the "typical" way of handling this type of situation, where you write your code once in C/C++ (or some kind of native linkage) and then create bindings to that native code in higher level languages/environments
the Ruby code is pure Ruby; the Java code is pure Java; the Python code is pure Python; etc
not exactly the type of thing you can use ant for, I guess
 
Bob
@allquixotic it's platform-independent this way
@allquixotic nice, but hopefully I won't have to build it any time soon :P
 
2:07 AM
!!info
 
!!help
 
@allquixotic Information on interacting with me can be found at this page
 
Bob
weeeee
!!info
 
@Bob I awoke on Tue, 08 Jul 2014 02:09:47 GMT (that's about 39 seconds ago), got invoked 1 times
 
Bob
2:10 AM
!!ping
 
@Bob That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
@Bob I got it working in my VM locally so far
 
Bob
!!HI CAVIL
 
gotta push my changes to the dedi
 
Bob
@allquixotic oh, I thought it was on the server :P
 
2:10 AM
nah.
 
Bob
still, it's progress :P
it'll probably work
 
I'm going to download Firefox 30 on the server and use that, along with my updated Selenium, and see if that fixes it
 
Bob
I had it working locally after manually clicking that extra login link
 
I didn't manually click anything, nor did I change any code
I just updated to Firefox 30
 
So who boxed Cavil?
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Bob
2:11 AM
hm, interesting
I had that extra login link for some reason
 
although for some reason I had to run the script twice (with separate profiles, so it didn't save any cookies) to get it to recognize :/
@Bob so did I, but it clicked it automatically
 
Bob
@allquixotic the first time, yes
but not the second time
 
sean@vm:~/dev/chat/so-chatbot-driver$ ./start.sh fuckyou
Arg processing finished; instantiating Driver object
Instantiating FirefoxDriver
chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/118/root-access: In the chatroom! Determining if we need to login...
Crap. We need to login.
chat.stackexchange.com/login/…: Performing stage 1 chat-login auth link
We don't have a network cookie at all.
stackexchange.com/users/login?returnurl=%2fusers%2fchat-login: We should be at the page that asks you to pick a sign-in method
 
Bob
@allquixotic Yea, I got a second "login with stackexchange" message between Authenticating... and Executing bot script...
I don't get that with FF30 though.
 
2:15 AM
@Bob keep in mind that I also updated Selenium to like 8 minor versions later (minor versions contain dozens of bugfixes each)
 
Bob
@allquixotic Yea, that's just what I got on FF23 on my VM. Doesn't happen on FF30 here.
I can check again when I get home, if I'm not too tired.
 
!!info
 
@allquixotic I awoke on Tue, 08 Jul 2014 02:19:41 GMT (that's about 8 seconds ago), haven't done anything yet!
 
!!help
 
man, the new pushbullet desktop app/notification mirroring is awesome
 
2:25 AM
OK, finishing up work on the bot now.
Looks like all I'll need to do is pull my changes to SO-ChatBot, to so-chatbot-driver, and restart the bot.
 
Who starred my !!help? o.O
 
not me.
 
not me ;p
suspects its @ChatBotJohnCavil
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@JourneymanGeek always suspect a guy who wears a Christmas hat all year round.
2
 
@allquixotic This is true. Especially if his name is Cavil.
 
2:32 AM
!!info
 
Bob
@allquixotic I want to star that, but... mobile :\
 
@Bob I'll star it for you. :P
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank Thanks! adds star
 
!!info
 
@allquixotic I awoke on Tue, 08 Jul 2014 02:44:20 GMT (that's about 9 seconds ago), learned 78 commands, teleported 16 goats
 
Bob
2:44 AM
weird thing about the mobile interface is it lets you add more stars, but not the first one
 
OK, so it works if I pass the parameter fuckyou (or anything, really) to restart.sh), but not if I let screen run it. Y U DO DIS SCREEN?
 
Bob
!!tell allquixotic YAY I'M ALIVE
 
Bob
o.O
 
what was that
Y U DO DIS
 
Bob
2:45 AM
I think yay is a command
I forgot the say
 
!!yay
 
!!itsworking
 
Bob
whoops
pretty hilarious mistake though :D
 
2:46 AM
eventually i'm gonna have to kill it and restart it with screen or at least nohup if screen won't cooperate
trying now with screen, give it a minute or two
also I switched to Xvfb over a UNIX domain socket; Xrdp is down
seems to work
can probably use x11vnc to connect to it if really needed
somehow
with ssh port forwarding or... nope that won't work, -nolisten tcp
 
Bob
@allquixotic what's the difference?
 
@Bob one opens up an attack surface :P
!!itsworking
 
ok, there we go, finally, it's headless, on the server, running
 
!!yay
 
Classic.
Hmm... I feel like Cavil needs an 'ohshit' command using this image:
That was possibly one of my favourite scenes from BSG.
 
@MichaelFrank No, the "ohshit" command is where Cavil shoots himself in the head on the bridge of the Galactica when he thinks that the Final Five have betrayed him.
 
@allquixotic HAVEN'T SEEN THAT YET D:
 
@MichaelFrank damn, I thought you'd seen the whole show :(
 
I'm about halfway through season 4
 
2:55 AM
come on man, get a move on!
 
I'm watching it as fast as my wife will let me!
 
I'll forewarn you: the ending is good, and makes you think a lot, and leaves some stuff open but closes a lot of stuff too, and sends chills down your spine, etc etc, but it's also a very sad ending
it's one of those where they kind of score that sweet spot between leaving stuff open and satisfying a lot of your curiosities at the same time
not like, say, Babylon 5, which left way too much open
 
I need to catch up on that
@allquixotic: B5 got messed with by the studio
 
Never seen B5 before.
 
it was supposed to be a 5 season arc, and with sinclair all the way
they basically adjusted the story for 4 seasons, and sinclair being switched with sheriden
 
2:58 AM
Michael O'Hare and Andreas Katsulas were my favorite actors across all of B5
two deceased fellas :/
 
lol
I LOVED g'kar
 
@allquixotic you tried out Basko yet?
 
I miss space operas
there's been nothing good since BSG
 
@JourneymanGeek Mass Effect, but you have to play that one
@MichaelFrank Basko? oh, the new hero? no
I haven't had a chance to play
 
rofl
I mean watch
I have hopes for the expanse
 
3:04 AM
@JourneymanGeek my opinions of many main characters changed multiple times throughout the series... that was an interesting part of B5.
G'Kar started out looking like the "annoying guy" -- like Quark in DS9
 
@allquixotic: the londo/g'kar dynamic made it for me
actually its true of the races as a whole
 
and at first Delenn seemed like the cold-hearted witch when she attacked G'Kar, but then she turned nice
and Sinclair went from this stodgy down to earth businesslike station commander to a religious leader
 
yeah
I liked sheriden more
 
most of the characters changed a lot, except maybe Londo, he's just the Nikita Khruschev stand-in :P
 
lol
delenn was awesome after her transformation ;p
and Ivanova!
awesome no matter what ;p
 
3:07 AM
I was sad to see Ivanova go.
 
well it was season 4
season 5 was all about the standalone episodes
 
and Garibaldi confused the hell out of me because he got disillusioned and broke bad for a while kinda
Bester was a character that was pretty predictable. played excellently by Walter Koenig though
 
Garibaldi made more sense when you realised what happened
 
3:29 AM
phew boss has gone. Time to stop furiously staring at the incoming incident list.
 
3:44 AM
;p
... yanno when you have a problem, and you realise the solution is staring you right in the face...
 
@JourneymanGeek Yep!
 
I won, on a weeknight, that means it's bed time for me... first game played, 100% win percentage today :P
good team comp. but I was 5 points short of astral on the roll
 
@allquixotic Duration let you down! :(
 
@MichaelFrank just an unfortunate RNG on the roll.
you can get astral+ easily even on a loss in a short game
a win, first win of the day, decent karma, on an average length game, should easily get astral, but I rolled like 130 or some shit
 
@allquixotic Yea, I had a couple games the other night. Lost one, rolled 540. Won the next, rolled 150. :/
 
3:58 AM
so the unexciting grand for me
I stacked the life items like crazy that game... didn't build up much in the way of resistances, but I had so much hp regen and so much hp that they didn't have the raw damage output to bring me down
escaped a lot of team fights with low hp but alive
 
@allquixotic I played a match a while ago against a Viyanna that stacked regen. Holy hell!
It was impossible to kill her.
She had a bunch of regen items, then Empathy and effectively acted like a damage soak for the rest of her team.
 
heh
Cerulean doesn't have that kind of sustain from the abilities, but he does have an armor and magic resistance buff from a stim, so if you stack haste you can use that pretty often
and if you use your ult on somebody low on health, it's close to being a full heal
that can really take the enemy team by surprise -- they think you're low so they might as well target you to try to kill you in a team fight, and then in the blink of an eye you're at full again
provided there's a nearby enemy who's almost dead
 
 
2 hours later…
5:39 AM
w00t! Finally home! :D
Also, Dawngate time!
 
6:15 AM
@allquixotic having a blinder this game! 12-1 with Kindra
 
6:45 AM
ended up 18-3!
And the next game I divined and unlocked Nissa. :D
 
7:04 AM
ooh, that went well
 
Bob
7:21 AM
@JourneymanGeek ?
 
Oh was stuck in a mission on watch dogs for a bit
And I was slightly low on the right sorts of ammo, and couldn't be arsed to quit the mission to restock
 
Bob
lol
 
(was fighting enforcers, who're a bear to take down without lots of explosives)
 
Bob
I haven't answered a question in two weeks :(
 
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A: Home wifi to phone 1 mile away

Journeyman GeekThere's these pesky things called "Physics" and "Legal regulation of power and frequency bands" The amount of power needed to transmit follows something called the inverse square law - transmission power doubles with distance. You could, in theory, use highly directional antennae on either end (...

I had too much fun with this one
 
Bob
7:25 AM
lol
s/site/sight/ though
grrrrr stop calling it a "tray"! => superuser.com/questions/593702/…
 
8:25 AM
7
A: How to put a program in system tray?

MartyIXTray It! Tray It! is free and seems to work fine on Windows 7 32bit; there are some issues on Windows 7 64bit.

Tray tray tray!
 
8:38 AM
!!taytaytay
 
Bob
9:24 AM
@OliverSalzburg :(
 
Bob
9:51 AM
interesting
 
Thats normal
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek still weird :P
 
10:15 AM
@Bob That's incredibly useful. Allows me to allow it through the firewall
Oh, I didn't even read the fine print. It has several conditions that make it pause apparently
And it can't install while Steam is running because it needs to patch some Steam libraries to record the payment information you use to purchase games. The money is then used for research on how to eliminate AMD from the market
 
Heya
How's everyone today?
 
11:12 AM
@Mokubai Kay
 
@Boris_yo I have an 24" SA350 that looks like it's probably the previous generation of that monitor and it's pretty reasonable.
 
@OliverSalzburg: You do realise it has a way of directly scanning what games you have, right?
 
11:44 AM
@JourneymanGeek No, I was dead serious
 
Nvidia's driver will soon automatically binary patch "Powered by AMD" games with cheats that make Nvidia players have better stats so they can win more often :P
 
You don't know about their secret plans to destroy AMD with money stolen from their users? It's a pretty widely known fact
 
Bob
@allquixotic oh hi. you're up early (or is it late?) :P
 
12:28 PM
@Mokubai Is it good secondary monitor for connecting to laptop? Won't my head spin due to it being bigger than laptop's?
 
12:41 PM
@Bob early -_-
and I'm at work early, too
!!yes
 
Bob
1:40 PM
@allquixotic o.O
 
@Bob "once I get some time and money" (which hopefully is sooner rather than later), I'm hoping I'll be able to buy one of those SP-64 servers from OVH in Canada, and put CentOS 7 on it... I'll probably scrap much of the junk on my existing server and completely redo the architecture around Docker or KVM (haven't decided which, yet)
Docker sounds like it's the "secure" application containers variant, and it's essentially perfect for use cases like Cavil
I just need to take stock of everything that's running on my server (that I want to keep), then build Docker containers for each thing that doesn't trust any of the other things
'course I could make you hate me by running BSD, or Solaris or something in KVM for Cavil ;-D
 
Bob
lol
@allquixotic long as you're not too unhappy when I accidentally do a killall or halt or something :P
 
Hmm, fried birds.
 
@Bob I think Docker is designed to not care about that (meaning, the container will shut down, but not the host)
 
2:09 PM
@Bob That engineer's a spah! Australia; smh
 
Bob
@allquixotic :(
 
Bob
2:34 PM
Why do we have a ?
@OliverSalzburg a new tag to haunt your nightmares :P ^
 
@Bob I have tabs with cleanups open on every computer I own, nothing scares me anymore :P
 
2:50 PM
@OliverSalzburg [tag:)))))))))))))))))))] ?
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg This tag is literally going to give you nightmares.
 
md brokened
[tag:specialchars*]
[meta-tag:n^ope]
 
[tag:☃]
Bam!
 
[tag:(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)]
<kbd>(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)</kbd>
 
@Hennes ;p
 
3:11 PM
Hi, I am using vmWare player and Ubuntu Linux as a guest operating system but my laptop got frozen , so I had to do the restart.... Now when I try to play the guest operating system it says:
 
Aaaahhhhh, technology
 
Erorr while powering on: Internal error.
Does it mean I have to install Ubuntu again? I can't fix it?
I think what happened is that Linux was not switched off properly, so now it can't start...
 
user image
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So useful!
 
@OliverSalzburg Why did you go to the trouble to make that?
It's pretty though :)
 
3:34 PM
@OliverSalzburg That so needs to be a real tag on meta...
 
@Mokubai does that tag get applied automatically to any question with worse than -3 net downvotes?
 
@terdon It only took a couple of minutes ;D
Pull requests with styles for other sites are welcome ;D
 
@allquixotic or when someone uses "why was" in combination with "deleted/closed/dafuq" in the title. Then a mod comes in, soothes everything down and applies the fix tag:
 
@Mokubai lol
hmm, i have a one-up idea on tag.this (possibly using tag.this, or just bot code)... !!tagify for Cavil O_O
!!tagify (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)
 
@allquixotic That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
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