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12:27 AM

@JourneymanGeek the code that Oracle is developing from this point forward is never open sourced, not just "eventually"

Journeyman Geek

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ: oh? I thought there were periodic code drops

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JourneymanGeek the continuing Solaris-based kernel updates are 100% community-maintained

Journeyman Geek

ahh

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

Oracle isn't dropping anything Solaris-related into the community anymore

Journeyman Geek

is out of touch :/

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

12:28 AM

they occasionally contribute patches to things like gcc for solaris compatibility, but that's it

Journeyman Geek

I used to keep track of all these things before I went back to school ;p

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

►

Journeyman Geek

dog looks confused ;p

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

"did he just say that?!?!"

!! s/dog/wolf/

ChatBot John Cavil

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ wolf looks confused ;p (source)

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

12:38 AM

evolutionarily correct term :P

Journeyman Geek

12:50 AM

lol

yard wolves!

(and much to my horror. I can't seem to sniff out the clip I was thinking of)

Braiam

1:06 AM

sends a ground meat in @JourneymanGeek way, so he start sniffing something but that clip

Journeyman Geek

meh.

Good cheese dude.

a triple cream brie for example.

Braiam

ಠ_ಠ

Journeyman Geek

@Psycogeek: FYI, you need to short two wires to get a PSU to work, and least with cheap PSUs, opening them up can be dangerous.

Michael Frank

oh wow.. IE11 at work now. Nice!

Ugh.. Apparently the version of Windows Remote Apps we have doesn't work with IE11. :<

Braiam

@MichaelFrank IE at work, bleh

ekaj

1:20 AM

Anyone ever look into app development pricing..?

Michael Frank

@Braiam Better than IE8...

Buuuut.... compatibility issues with old shitty apps we have to use. zzzzz

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank: legacy mode?

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek Maybe...

hey that worked! :)

Journeyman Geek

:)

Journeyman Geek

1:39 AM

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Parachute Wauzers? meh, we walk right in like we own the place ;p

Unless its the kitchen

DemCodeLines

2:10 AM

Is there any way to run VS on a Mac?

Michael Frank

@DemCodeLines Not natively, you would need to either virtualize or dual boot Windows.

DemCodeLines

I fear virtualize will be useless as it will be too slow.

Plus, it's asp.net, which means it will be a combination of running a local server, meaning everything will be done in that virtual machine.

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek 2? that is what the guy said also, it is 2 items, but it is just a control wire to ground. so electrically i think of it as the control only is sent to ground. In a simple discussion it is "connect 2 wires together"

@JourneymanGeek I could bold the warning, or put in the word warning, because the shock yourself thing was just tossed into the paragraph of opening it. They dont scace me none because few of the caps used in them will hold a charge for time.

Journeyman Geek

oh, I meant in case something shorted

my answer covers that in depth though

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek oh yea that, 38amps shorting :-) hey that is half the fun.

Journeyman Geek

2:21 AM

eh, I think you americans use 10A

The Britplug is 13A but thats cause of how post war british houses were wired

Psycogeek

amps at the low voltage.

And it is NOT always a green wire. i had a PSU that used purple, freaking tards.

I had to spend extra time counting the slot location over and over again, to be sure.

Journeyman Geek

the spec is green, and it has been green on both PSUs I tried it on

(Used a cd drive for a load though)

HackToHell

2:34 AM

Interesting, apparently the WiFi is my college allows laptops but not Phones

Journeyman Geek

o0

HackToHell

And they don't have a MAC based filtering system

Journeyman Geek

kinda makes sense if you're worried about load, but how can they tell?

Michael Frank

@HackToHell Is there a login portal?

Kyron

Hey, @Journeyman Geek, you were here yesterday when Bob suggested I use Dante, right?

DemCodeLines

2:39 AM

Why can't I run VS in Mac?!

This is so annoying

Michael Frank

@DemCodeLines Because it's not made for Mac...

DemCodeLines

WHY

Michael Frank

@DemCodeLines Off-topic as we don't answer questions about design decisions.

:P

Journeyman Geek

@Kyron: yeah?

DemCodeLines

I know, I am usually in this room, but don't talk often.

Journeyman Geek

2:41 AM

and I pointed out you could abuse dispatch-proxy to do the same thing.

@DemCodeLines: because Its a mac. VS is for PC ;p

DemCodeLines

Yeah I know.

I just need to develop ASP.NET stuff, but I can't on a Mac.

:(

Journeyman Geek

old master once say, he who tries to hammer in nails with a pillow needs a harder pillow

@DemCodeLines: get a VPS or a VM

or bootcamp

or

DemCodeLines

VM will be slow and all the services will run inside the VM

Journeyman Geek

heh

DemCodeLines

I am not into bootcamp, so nah for both :(

Journeyman Geek

2:42 AM

Modern VMs are not necessarily slow

or should I say modern systems are powerful enough to run a reasonably sized VM fairly fast.

Kyron

Ah, well, I've tried to configure Dante to do it, but it doesn't seem to be working.. serverfault.com/questions/616118/… (Yeah, asked the question on the wrong site. xP)

Journeyman Geek

ahh

I've never messed with Dante before.

Kyron

Hmm. Do you think you could teach me how to do this with dispatch-proxy?

DemCodeLines

agh this sucks

Journeyman Geek

its in the examples ;p

your TUN interface has an ip address no?

Kyron

2:46 AM

The inet address when I run ifconfig, correct?

Journeyman Geek

ja

assuming its 10.0.0.1 its simply dispatch start 10.0.0.1 and you'll have a proxy running at port 80

Kyron

It's 10.200.3.186 - and changes each time I open the adapter..

Journeyman Geek

hm. that makes it slightly tricky

do you need/want this to start automatically?

Kyron

Can I specify the port also?

Journeyman Geek

yeah, its in the docs

Kyron

2:49 AM

I suppose, any way to do this with a quick bash script?

Journeyman Geek

dispatch start --p <port> <interface>

hmm

I'm a bit rusty

You'd probably be able to use ip addr

Kyron

wait, is dispatch-proxy Windows only?

Journeyman Geek

naw

runs on linux, uses node

Kyron

Ah, alright.

Also, figured out how to get the IP

HackToHell

@MichaelFrank Yeah, they use Cyber Roam

But that portal doesn't show up in my phone

The gateway simply doesn't respond

Kyron

3:00 AM

TUN0_IP=$(ifconfig tun0 | grep "inet addr" | awk -F: '{print $2}' | awk '{print $1}')

HackToHell

Wait, I think I connected to the wrong HotSpot

Journeyman Geek

yeah. I used grep but I'm coming across a wierd issue ;p

I'm rusty, been stuck in windows too long XE

Kyron

Hehe.

I'm having to switch between Windows, Mac and Debian all the time! Windows because I'm an artist and Wine just doesn't cut it. Mac because at my Art College they think Mac's are the way to go. And Debian because... I like Debian and do all my programming stuff with it.

Journeyman Geek

lol

I do(or sorta did) forensics, and most of the school tools are windows

currently trying to finish off a management major module so...

not quite having time for geeky shit between that, the army, and the problems my dog's having

Kyron

Aww. D;

I'm sure everything will work out and you can get back to geeky stuff.. All part of life's........ Journey.

Journeyman Geek

3:06 AM

lol

Kyron

Heheh.

Journeyman Geek

Yeah

Having money would help XD

(though, I suspect a good chunk of my first month's mad money will go into a new ~~fully operational battlestation~~ desk)

HackToHell

Aha I figured out why my QML was not loading

var component = Qt.createComponent("Button.qml");
if (component.status == Component.Ready)
component.createObject(parent, {"x": 100, "y": 100});

> Component.Ready

Capital C

Why can't they use a different variable name ._.

Journeyman Geek

I kinda roughed out what I'd do (wooden counter top + trestle legs + ikea toilet roll holder to hold my headphones)

and probably actually plan out cable management rather than throwing together random things.

Kyron

Nice.

Journeyman Geek

3:16 AM

(right now... Its an utterly mcgyvered combination of a chipping particle board desk with random holes drilled in it, metal A frame trestles (I LOVE these) and some L brackets and wood for the plug points (I have 8 sockets...) and lh4.googleusercontent.com/-SrpsmQsFik0/U58HXfZ2EHI/AAAAAAAAGMA/… holding my headphones...

Oh wait. I can stick the socks that don't fit anyone over that....

Kyron

You sound like a real carpenter. Hehe.

Journeyman Geek

lol

I do my best ;p

Bob

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ?

Journeyman Geek

damn, it fell off

3

Bob

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Nah, without looking at the full transcript, I can only guess that you probably managed it much faster, if I could even do it at all :P

Journeyman Geek

3:24 AM

@Kyron: I have limited resources and space, and make up for it with sheer single minded ingenuity

2

Kyron

I applaud you, dude.

I just buy my stuff from Ikea and shove it wherever it fits. xD

Journeyman Geek

@Kyron: Ikea is a decent source of stuff ;p

However their premade stuff is crap

its probably cheaper and better to buy one of their countertops and seperate legs than a table for example

Kyron

Yeah. And even though their DIY stuff is better, it's a pain to put together. xD I'm not a manual labour guy.

Journeyman Geek

@Kyron: hence trestle legs

you basically slide them in position

HackToHell

I should start a heads up blog for Qt newbies.

The wiki is for pros.

Journeyman Geek

3:29 AM

@Kyron: meh

I need to build stuff to relax sometimes ;p

usually its smaller things though

Kyron

I understand that. I do that with art. It's hard to be relaxed when you're not doing anything productive. And it's hard to be relaxed when you have an ambitious/complex project. Doing something soothing and simple that you can just 'do it' is nice.

Journeyman Geek

lol

I get an idea, occationally I have to do it or I'll go nuts thinking about it ;p

(and I love electric tools. I've been hankering for a mini lathe for years)

though

ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10242273 this is probably a near future acquisition

Kate

@JourneymanGeek if you're looking for a jigsaw on a budget, the Black & Decker JS660 has good reviews bestconsumerreviews.com/jigsaw-reviews

Kyron

$24. Nice!

Journeyman Geek

@Kate: hmm. I might check it out.

(not something I'd get soon, but potentially useful)

HackToHell

3:45 AM

Finally managed to arrange the damn dynamic column in Qt

Hopefully it will be faster from now onwards

Kyron

I've always been interested in electronics/engineering too rather than just the software side. I'd really like to start learning about proper reverse engineering and modding.

Kate

@JourneymanGeek I'm partial to Bosch, but this B&D has good reviews. I'm waiting for my birthday to get the 1617EVSPK router :)

HackToHell

3:59 AM

Oh crap I have to make this scrollable :?

Michael Frank

4:22 AM

ugh... Brave Frontier servers crashed :<

HackToHell

okkkaaay qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtquick-visualcanvas-visualparent.html

Damn them parents

Journeyman Geek

4:37 AM

@Kate: At the moment, I have an ikea electric screwdriver, a Dremel, and a cheap dremel knockoff (that I got after my first dremel broke, and I couldn't afford a new one)

Bob

5:32 AM

Psycogeek

this ^ Pic from asiancorrespondent.com/45054/…

HackToHell

6:25 AM

@Bob Downloading from hp eh ?

Bob

@HackToHell trying to

Hm, stumbled on @nhinkle's blog by accident (while searching for something): nathanhinkle.com/blog/2010/…

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

12:09 PM

mobile.twitter.com/LibyaLiberty/status/493465803983831040

;_;

jokerdino

O_O

@allq, do you have a mubarak holiday today?

ChatBot John Cavil

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ^

Journeyman Geek

12:30 PM

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ: why can't we all get along (and not throw missiles at each other) :(

@jokerdino: its today there isn't it?

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek yes

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

1:14 PM

@jokerdino muwha? no...

@JourneymanGeek :(

@Bob hehe

jokerdino

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Eid mubarak. Never heard of it?

HackToHell

Well fuck you too Quora Admin

jokerdino

I think it's the #1 holiday on Muslim calendar.

@HackToHell what did you have? lol

HackToHell

<--

jokerdino

I don't know why they insist on getting our real names.

To keep out trolls?

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

1:17 PM

@jokerdino the only Mubarak I know is the ex-dictator of Egypt

and his name is Hosni

I don't think anyone here is taking off for Eid Mubarak... maybe no Muslims? :P

jokerdino

Yeah, guess so.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

probably Hindu/Agnosticism/Atheism/Christianity/other

Journeyman Geek

1:32 PM

lol

yeah, they call it hari raya here though

(same thing in malay)

jokerdino

It's called Ramadan in here.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

1:52 PM

I know what Ramadan is!

lol you should've said that :P

Journeyman Geek

In fact, I think they only call it eid in india

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ: Ramadan is the whole month though

they basically fast the whole month

then... well...

practically people tend to eat a lot on the last day

(that's not really the tradition... but meh, humans are humans.)

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JourneymanGeek and hungry humans are hungry humans :)

Journeyman Geek

;p

yeah

(oh, they don't not eat anything at all. They fast from sunrise to sunset)

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

2:09 PM

@JourneymanGeek so if I see anyone eating at the office I know they are not Muslim? :P

Journeyman Geek

or they are sick, need to eat for medical purposes, old, or can't be arsed

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

lol @ the last one

jokerdino

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ lol sorry. I wasn't sure which name was the international one.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

I guess I can't tell for pregnant women either, since they obv. have to eat

jokerdino

yeah, pregnant women, ill, sportspersons, travellers, diabetic people, etc don't have to follow Ramadan.

instead, I think they offer alms for 30 days.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

2:12 PM

we don't have anyone ill here (why would they be working?!!??!?!) and no one who is really athletic

they shouldn't be traveling since they are working every day

I have no idea who is diabetic so that may be a thing

and at least one person is obv. pregnant ;p

jokerdino

lol

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

I do notice seasonal head-shaving by some, not sure what practice that is related to

jokerdino

Could be an offering

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

Ramadan ended yesterday. ok. I thought that is when it started ;p

Journeyman Geek

lol

head shaving is more typically hindu

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

2:23 PM

@JourneymanGeek don't wolves believe in the Moon God or something? auoooooooooooooo

what is your relationship with the moon, wolf-descendant? :P

Journeyman Geek

>_>

I'm a creature of the night. By which I mean I sleep.

;p

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

lol

Journeyman Geek

(also mini snauzers have bad eyesight, and probably don't notice the moon;p)

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

aww

Journeyman Geek

2:38 PM

(hearing and smell though...)

Bob

Journeyman Geek

lol

Kate

@Bob I say ask away

then run

Journeyman Geek

lol

Kate

2:56 PM

hardest working being in the office

Is that yours?

:) yes

working from home?

nope, at work

scratches head

2:57 PM

dogs are awesome at the office

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