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2:17 AM
This overdub == (Anthony Corvyx - Gravity + Sara Bareilles - Gravity @ -19% pitch) with timings adjusted and vocals removed from the first one
 
hello!
hey @allquixotic - I managed, in the process of writing an answer, master the art of print screen and made a rather diagramatic answer here superuser.com/questions/827952/…
 
@Omen *click*
the sound of my upvote
 
sweet!
I had thought about making freehand circles, but mine look like mouldy bread
 
lol
 
I seem to be answering excel questions...lol
 
2:34 AM
@Omen nicely done.
 
@Omen that's normal
 
lol, nothing normal about my freehand circles, they are a life force of their own
so, how is everyone today?
 
 
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Bob
5:55 AM
@allquixotic What did I miss o.O
 
Bob
6:41 AM
@allquixotic compressed down to a little under half the original size :)
pretty good
350 GB => 150 GB
 
@allquixotic: I get a certain degree of control
(Mainly cause I've seen the horror that users afflict on some systems)
 
6:56 AM
Something that baffled me but can't really ask as a question (it's opinion-based). Why do many web based companies prioritize Internet Explorer over other browsers? Quite often I find small fine print in sites saying "This site is best viewed on Internet Explorer with 1024 x 768 resolution."
Of course you only see such messages in sites from early 2000s that are still around, but then if you call customer support related to many sites and tell them you're using Firefox or Chrome, their first response is "Please use Internet Explorer.". Are veteran web developers still making and maintaining sites to function properly on Internet Explorer first?
Don't they trust Firefox or Chrome or other competing browsers to let the websites function properly? Is there still an industrial-level mistrust on alternative browsers a user may install? (I would suppose tech support for a user on Mac would instruct the user to use Safari, which is IE's equivalent on OS X)
 
@ADTC: Lowest commom denominator, and if they say 1024x768, that's possibly pre firefox of chrome.
Also, firefox might lack some GPO related features
 
reguardless of what browser you use, if your "other" browser does not render a page correct, the second things to do is see how the Built in piece of junk does. Wouldn't this lead to people instead saying "the "other" browser does not render it properly" VS "your website sucks :-)
At the very least , these things should "work out of the box" and while high use computer users (willing to put up with all kinds of stuff) might squew the statistics towards an "other" browser (chrome), a machine check would show that Hey they all have IE on. (we will ignore the fact that is is not in actuality removable)
 
Bob
@ADTC Most likely older sites.
Newer sites tend to recommend Chrome.
Which kinda annoys me, as a Firefox user.
 
7:15 AM
@Bob have you ever seen Firefox come in with another program, packaged similar to malware?
(installing itself without permission, because the user did not say NO, or select the adv options)
If you track users with those stupid web tracking stuff, the one that opens the most tabs the most often wins :-)
 
All Windows computers have IE, and all Mac OS X computers have Safari. Is that justification enough to support these two browsers first? I mean shouldn't it be based on what's more widely used rather than what's more readily available?
@Bob could you show some sites that are recommending Chrome?
 
Bob
@ADTC not off the top of my head, no
 
@ADTC used by whom? the average person happy with the built in browser, just wants to see the page, they just want it to work. the super geekoid who has ramped it up to some other browser, knows how to fix all the stuff that does not.
Side note, most of the mac users know what IE is and have used it. which might not be as true about the use of safari by PC leaning users.
the average user (apparently) also does not make up the brunt of the bandwidth of the web either, with IPs claming that ~90+% of the people they connect, only use 3-6G of data (includes i&o) while the other ~10% can use a whole bandwidth cap even :-)
So when it comes to Stats (ones that are not made up) , is it
A) what browser per capita do people use
B) what browser is observed on each of the tracked pages reguardless of the IP
C) what browser is shown arriving on tracked websites, with so called unique visits (which misses that some people are not static, and get new IPs)
and D) all based on what the browser tells them, and in the case of people in control of tracking, IF it tells them at all. EX: I frequently use any user agent I desire, and i have 80% of tracking shut down.
 
8:33 AM
superuser.com/questions/828076/what-does-mount-a-sd-card-mean <-- would this question be better off migrated than put on hold? While it is one of those Short questions , that triggers the machine to review, the question is just simple, and is answerable.
 
9:01 AM
Had one of those really usefull errors today. In windows while renaming a file it said something about cannot use spaces in this file system. I am thinking WTF are you talking about. The disk had dropped out 6 hours ago :-) what file system was that :-) The disk was completly non present.
super futuristic computer: "On your present heading you are 34 light years from Galio Station . . ." <---- If you turned around , cause your going the wrong way.
 
@Psycogeek: 'Lack of research'
@ADTC IMO, you code for standards then test
ie6 is a pretty bad baseline, A good rule of thumb would be latest IE (and maybe one version back), Firefox's current version, and ditto with chrome.
 
Bob
9:16 AM
@JourneymanGeek Code for standards and use shims where possible.
 
(Also, Devs who 'Naive' version check need to be hit on the nose with a rolled up newspaper. lower version numbers do not necessarily mean crappier on different browsers, even if the version number wars has fixed that)
 
Bob
Only fall back manually if you can't use a shim.
 
@Bob: testing tells you what breaks ;p
hm
Coreutils viewer is pretty neat
Fired up task on the left. I get information on what's happening after I've fired up tar on the right.
 
9:42 AM
@Psycogeek I would say migrate it to the Android site.
 
9:54 AM
@JourneymanGeek Neat
 
 
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Bob
11:43 AM
 
 
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1:12 PM
And gradle imports several copies of the same library onto the main project from the modules and tries to build -_-
Gradle is supposed to stop this shit
 
 
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3:34 PM
Hey anyone here?
I have a... problem
I have one of these here:
And I was absentmindedly playing with the little lock slider on the left, and it came off. And it came off in read-only mode.
I don't really care about being able to put the card into read-only, I just care about having it writable.
Yay scotch tape + sharpie trick worked >:D
I had no idea that was light-driven
 
Bob
@Undo no such thing
the slider isn't electrical in any way
 
yeah, I just found that out
 
Bob
it's a simple piece of plastic not actually connected to anything, so it really makes no difference which 'mode' it comes off in :P
you can also just shove the slider back in
 
Except it flew off into what I can only guess is the place where lost socks go.
 
Bob
xD
@allquixotic damn nice price for a laptop with 12 GB of RAM: catchoftheday.com.au/event/42186/product/…
too bad it's not all that portable
wow, they still sell Android 2.2 phones
bleh, still another year before SP4
 
4:13 PM
@Bob I agree; given the pricing, great value. Also, Haswell.
 
Bob
@allquixotic Yet another site that exaggerates utterly mundane specs.
 
@Bob HUGE! ENORMOUS! SUPER-FAST!
 
Bob
> Huge 1TB hard-drive storage
Those 6 TB drives would like a word with you.
 
sounds like Steve Jobs and his "blazing fast" iPhone/iPad in the initial introduction thereof.
@Bob to be fair, 1 TiB is relatively huge for a laptop-grade drive. Yes, there are larger, but not 6 TB larger.
 
Bob
@allquixotic It's still hardly anything to boast about. Y'know, HDD and all.
 
4:15 PM
though with a Clevo you can probably get 3 x 2 TiB 2.5" HDD.
two HDD/SSD slots and remove the optical drive and put in a HDD caddy
@Bob you actually missed a really good session of me thinking on my feet and googling creatively to come up with a solution for that guy.
 
Bob
@allquixotic :(
Or is that :)?
:( that I missed it, :) that you managed it :P
 
he had a Westell ADSL (VDSL?) modem, and a Netgear WNDR3700v3, but the modem was acting JUST as a modem -- no layer 3, not even the PPPoE. the Netgear router was doing the PPPoE and layer 3, with the modem layer-2 bridged to the netgear.
he forgot his ISP password (for the online account, and also used to authenticate over CHAP for PPPoE) and the account is owned by his mother in law
so I gave him the link to the Netgear telnet backdoor utility; he used it; then telnetted in; and we fished around until we found nvram show, which listed the variable=value ISP password for the PPPoE auth, which was only displaying as stars in the web iface :D
 
Bob
@allquixotic ...backdoor utility? O_O
@allquixotic When you say displaying as stars, was the password being transmitted at all?
 
@Bob Netgear's consumer router kit is based on a Netgear heavily hacked fork of OpenWRT with proprietary software and custom patches; there is a backdoor utility that you can download, which is "official" and is used by Netgear troubleshooting techs, to unlock a root telnet shell (thankfully it only listens on the private LAN).
the backdoor utility transmits a series of magic packets to the router (which some people have reverse-engineered successfully into a Python program, but better to use the official utility) which unlock the telnet shell.
once you're in, you have a busybox shell and the nvram command to read and write to the persistent storage.
 
Bob
@allquixotic I wonder how many MIPS cycles it takes to listen for said magic sequence :P
 
4:22 PM
granted, you can always flash DD-WRT or OpenWRT overtop the default firmware and have a much more robust system with ssh, pubkey auth, a better shell, /etc/config scripts for absolutely everything, etc -- but he wanted to retrieve the existing password
@Bob we didn't check. I didn't think to use Fiddler to try and sniff it. however, I severely doubt it was being transmitted over the HTTP web iface.
 
Bob
@allquixotic Fiddler? I was thinking browser dev tools :P
Or viewing the HTML source.
 
@Bob meh. Netgear would have to be pretty stupid to Well, this is the same company that provides an official root shell backdoor...
with a pre-defined password, at that!
 
Bob
@allquixotic Most web interfaces for routers I've seen will do that.
 
@Bob really? O.o
 
Bob
Security of the ISP password really isn't their concern.
For example, my current Billion modem returns this HTML:
 
4:25 PM
I guess it makes a certain degree of sense -- if someone who isn't part of your LAN is able to get into your admin page, you're kind of fucked
 
Bob
<input name="pppPassword" value="MyActualPasswordRedacted" size="30" maxlength="32" type="password">
 
and if someone on your LAN is malicious, you're also pretty fucked
at least with standard home equip
only large enterprise networks have more defenses built up within the LAN
 
Bob
Incidentally, this is on the main frame:
function init()
{
	var updnHeight=156;
	var sh = 768;
	if (typeof(screen.height) == 'number') sh = screen.height;
	if (typeof(window.innerHeight) == 'number') {
		// non IE
		ch = window.innerHeight;
	} else if (document.documentElement && document.documentElement.clientHeight) {
		// IE 6+ in 'standards compiant mode'
		ch = document.documentElement.clientHeight;
	} else if (document.body && document.body.clientHeight) {
		// IE 4 compatible
		ch = document.body.clientHeight;
	} else {
		ch = getFitH(sh);
> IE 4 compatible
!!no
 
Bob
they do use feature-checking, though, which is nice
 
4:26 PM
@Bob at least they aren't being judgmental about what OS their customers run :-)
I mean, what could possibly be wrong about running Windows 95?
 
Bob
Hm, the main doc actually doesn't have any errors.
Missing a doctype though.
lemme run it through the HTML validator
ok, one error for the missing doctype
one for a missing alt attribute in an area tag, which is apparently required (o.O)
I didn't even know that happens
HTML/SGML is stupid.
 
5:10 PM
One for Journeyman:
user image
2
 
 
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6:10 PM
peers at steam.
If I buy this four pack XCOM: Enemy Unknown, XCOM: Enemy Unknown - Elite Soldier Pack, XCOM: Enemy Unknown - Slingshot Pack, XCOM: Enemy Within
then I pay less than if I just buy XCOM: Enemy Within ?
 
!!tell 18215808 define sale
 
@Hennes sale (obsolete) A hall.
 
...
!!no
 
6:33 PM
!!taytaytay
 
@TomWijsman Command taytaytaycat learned
 
Well, gotta have another one to end a conversation...
!!taytaytaycat
 
6:37 PM
Y u no work?!
!!help
 
@TomWijsman Command taytaytay, created by Gowtham on Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:02:37 GMT, invoked 1 times
@TomWijsman Information on interacting with me can be found at this page
 
!!forget taytaytaycat
 
@allquixotic Command taytaytaycat forgotten.
 
!!learn taytaytaycat '<>http://i.stack.imgur.com/wCKzl.gif'
 
@allquixotic Command taytaytaycat learned
 
6:40 PM
!!taytaytaycat
 
@allquixotic '<>http://i.stack.imgur.com/wCKzl.gif'
 
bah
 
You're doing it wrong.
2
 
!!forget taytaytaycat
 
@allquixotic Command taytaytaycat forgotten.
 
6:40 PM
!!/learn taytaytaycat <>http://i.imgur.com/nGqMP4c.gif
 
@TomWijsman Command taytaytaycat learned
 
!!taytaytaycat
 
I'm doing it wrong.
3
 
!!info no
 
6:40 PM
@allquixotic Command no, created by allquixotic on Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:18:45 GMT, invoked 4 times
 
!!help no
 
@allquixotic no: User-taught command: <>http://i.stack.imgur.com/M0Ngk.png
@TomWijsman Command taytaytaycat learned
 
so what gives?
 
what'd I do wrong on my first try? the '?
 
6:41 PM
!!yes
 
that used to work...
 
@ChatBotJohnCavil the "wink and look away" behavior by a cat means "OMG I LOVE YOU SO MUCH I CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT YOU ANYMORE"
 
7:44 PM
A quicky that is annoying me... I have about 250k files that is over 200GB and I tried transferring via BTSync and SFTP from Windows to Linux to Windows... I believe I have everything, BUT, on all three hosts, if I restart BTsync, it shows slight differences are indexing...
Anyone know of a good MD5 program that can help compare folders? ... I want to basically generate a MD5 file on the first windows machine and then compare it against contents on the linux box and the third windows machine... but, I can't find a program cross OS that actually works :/
 
 
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10:22 PM
@WilliamHilsum oh well; you were here while I was asleep!! also, !!hv :P
 
good morning
 
@WilliamHilsum install Cygwin on Windows, then find . -type f -print0 | tar -c -T - | md5sum
 
@allquixotic hooked up my new router in backwards mode and things seem to be going quite well so far
Thanks again for the help
 
OR, find . -type f -exec md5sum {} \; > sums.txt; cat sums.txt | sort -n > sums-sorted.txt then transfer the sums-sorted.txt files from each separate machine and use diff -u file1.txt file2.txt twice (1 and 2, 2 and 3); if diff reports no output, all good
diff is reflexive, symmetric and transitive, so if diff -u 1 2 and diff -u 2 3 both return nothing (files are identical), then logically, diff -u 1 3 MUST return nothing if the file contents are unchanged
@SpartanDonut np, glad you got it working
 
10:39 PM
@allquixotic and with the cats I used to have, it meant 'just you wait until you see what I did to your newspaper..."
 
@Omen lol
 
they were sarcastic kitties indeed
hmmm decisions to be made...
 
10:54 PM
@Psycogeek: weren't you looking for something like this? dx.com/p/…
@WilliamHilsum: md5deep.sourceforge.net
Also you can use en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff3 for 3 way comparisons ;)
 
11:28 PM
@JourneymanGeek not really, but i did see they had a clone version of the rocket raid itself dx.com/p/… . I ended up with a LSI basic raid of the newer variety, about to install it (which means test my luck :-)
On this question superuser.com/a/822490/98855, I still "dont nessisarily believe" That a youtube has to be streamed, because jdownloader treats it like any other file download, even will pull it down with multiple connections. I do not think (and that is the question) that this DASH is being applied then. here is what i see
While jdownloader has many plugs and uses "best methods" I do not think it is operating in this case like a "youTube Downloader" which probably does do the capture the streaming thing.
Long ago in far off lands, it was understood that streaming required way more backtalk from the client. While the magic dash is prime for these non-live streamings, I still believe that a download is more raw and stupid , and uses less bandwith.
Which just leaves (whine sniff whine) The only way to fact it out, would be to get the network stats and carefully do both one at a time, making sure it is the same file item. Then add up the real numbers from the actul bandwidth.
I should also download one with commertials in it, and see if the ads come out on the original file, or are injected using the wonderfull features of the updated new wizz bang gotta have it flash, that like all things on the web, doesnt change what the user wants, only chages how many ads they can stuff.
Not a matter of the answer being wrong, it all comes down to being bamboozeled by the "new" wonderous features that have no intention of saving anything, are just ways to screw the user. Like my numerous examples of web pages that have beloted to 50 times the size needed to display the text and pictures, to do only one thing, stuff ads and tracing. Which bugs me when the webmasters Whine about "Costs" when analisis shows the ads are "cost"ing 90% of the web page.
 

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