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Bob
12:01 AM
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
the Show method that takes a location doesn't check if duration is >0 before throwing an exception. the one that doesn't take a location explicitly checks and allows a value of 0 to mean no timer
what is this inconsistency
 
I never bother with tooltips. Users can feel lucky if I put labels on buttons
 
Bob
wait
the explicit check is..
it's against documented behaviour
headdesk
MS fail
@Oliver eh. I have to, in this case :P
 
Well, I always felt like it was a pain to handle tooltips in .Net
Some external component libraries I used simply had Tooltip properties on every element and handled everything themselves. That I liked
It's more like the VB6 style I was used to ;D
 
@OliverSalzburg I wonder the same thing. I've barely hit 50K :/
 
The Adobe Creative Cloud is such a great move
@JourneymanGeek He seems to be totally unconnected to anything. It baffles the mind. It's like he's doing it just to help people. wtf
 
12:13 AM
@OliverSalzburg: but then he'd answer other questions too
 
...but only those that have rep to give
 
It really looks like he's powergrinding for rep ;p
 
The thing is, there is really nothing wrong with what he's doing. His answers are always great. He's not whoring for rep. He's often flagging questions with bounties as dupes, where he could have easily gotten the bounty. He has thousands of answers under his belt, so why not go for those that have high reward?
It just feels weird :D
Burn him alive! He makes me feel weird!
 
lol
@OliverSalzburg: Powergaming!
 
Bob
...why does the tooltip cut off the text sometimes?!
 
12:19 AM
ugh, I SERIOUSLY hate china mail's package tracking website.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek is it because it's in Chinese? :P
 
First the unreadable captcha that keeps looking like it has one more character than it does
then its... just not loading
 
Bob
(why the hell would anyone captcha a tracking site anyway)
I guess if someone were trying to brute force tracking numbers
 
I have no idea. Goddamned ex-commies.
 
It's a captcha from another website that you're solving for a robot
So that they can register an account as an actual human
 
Bob
12:22 AM
o.O
!@$!
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Q: Why aren't balloon tips shown pointing at the correct control?

DotnetI am using a ToolTip control on my form, but have discovered that even though my cursor is on one control, the tooltip is showing somewhere else. I would like to show this within the control my cursor is on. As shown in the image above, when my cursor is over Textbox3, the tooltip is showing o...

looks like I'll have to fig into the Win32 API again
ARGH
 
 
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2:33 AM
I wasn't aware that it's so silent here at night
What are you guys doing? Work? :D
 
2:49 AM
Chirping birds are telling me to go to sleep already
Hate those birds
 
Bob
3:11 AM
@OliverSalzburg actually, yes :P
When the birds start chirping, I just know I'm not going to get any real sleep...
 
3:32 AM
@Bob LOL
 
3:42 AM
I have birds living in my air con. Damned things chirp ALL THE TIME
 
Bob
4:32 AM
ok
shit
apparently Abc\@def@example.com is a valid email address...
and so is "Abc@def"@example.com
and with spaces, assuming it's quoted/escaped properly
-_-
so many standards-breaking applications
nothing new there
that regex...
 
 
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6:23 AM
@Bob o_0 !
 
Bob
7:06 AM
@HackToHell yea, it's pretty crazy
@allquixotic Have fun :P
Your first Win8 machine?
 
 
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8:49 AM
edited a question, was for review. One 22k user comes, reviews my edit, adds one unnecessary word and now it shows his name as editor. <_< sigh.
 
Bob
9:19 AM
Steam has a web chat?!
 
9:48 AM
Would be a good one if it got moved here.
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Q: How to install UEFI BIOS?

IremadzeArchil19910311I have bought Seagate Barracuda 3tb hard drive. When I start to install windows 8 x64 on that it tells me that you can not install windows 8 x64 on a GPT (GUID Partition Table) type disk, it tells me that at first you must convert disk type to MBR (Master Boot Record) type which does not allow yo...

Bloody hell. When did HarryMC break 100,000?
 
10:04 AM
Hello, where should I ask question about dns error? Is this the right place?
 
10:16 AM
@Arto Depends, is it for your home network? A webserver you run?
 
10:32 AM
@tombull89 your wish has been granted.
Also, you cannot "install" a UEFI system, neither will a BIOS upgrade help. If you need UEFI, you'll need to replace your motherboard which means replacing your entire system - RAM, GPU, CPU etc. I'd grab Gparted live CD, and split the hard drive into smaller partitions & convert to MBR type. — Sathya 15 mins ago
OK, but what about parts of motherboard? — IremadzeArchil19910311 13 mins ago
which part is mainly important for UEFI BIOS? — IremadzeArchil19910311 12 mins ago
headdesk
:|
 
yeah, I've noticed and instantly cringed.
 
@Bibhas on SU? I don't see anything you suggested/approved
 
@Sathya SO.
 
well, next time make it clear >_>
 
@Sathya You spent some time on that, didn't ya? :D
 
10:35 AM
@tombull89 back in december, apparently
Dec 14 '12 at 14:58, by Oliver Salzburg
Oh, harry hit 100k
 
oh. shows how active I've been on SU.
 
@Bibhas oh not much, just all your activity, the suggested edit review history, and other review queues >_>
@tombull89 it's ok, you're the BoFH now. runs
 
@Sathya Hahaha! :D Sorry. :(
Google street view FTW.
 
Cats can never be cute again
 
:D
 
10:44 AM
@tombull89 you're not the only one, I had to search on chat to recall :D
 
user58869
@Bibhas what is that?
 
@axrwkr street view image overlap
 
user58869
I thought it was a two legged cat!
 
user58869
 
it's a bad cat day
 
Bob
10:58 AM
@Sathya the whole part
huh
> which means replacing your entire system - RAM, GPU, CPU etc.
that's.. not right
depending on the age of the CPU, there could be a UEFI MB available for it. RAM is pretty upgradeable, and DDR3's been standard for quite a while. video card normally just works (probably the most standard interface)
:\
 
11:14 AM
@Bob he's got a Pentium D. That dates back to Netburst era iirc >_>
 
Bob
I've seen some pretty recent Pentium Ds...
Ah, 2008.
there are some MBs with UEFI that support LGA 775
oh wait
not true UEFI
hmm
> Gigabyte tried to address the limitation with what it calls "HybridEFI", which is nothing to do with UEFI, but is rather an address-space tweak for existing AwardBIOS code that allows you to boot from large volumes. That still leaves out the problem of Gigabyte's notably slow and convoluted CMOS setup program navigation. One genuine upside of HybridEFI is that Gigabyte has been able to provide BIOS updates to many of its older motherboards with 16 Mbit EEPROMs, that give them the feature.
> Gigabyte is hence the only motherboard vendor with socket LGA775, LGA1156, LGA1366, and AM3 motherboards that can boot from >2.2 TB volumes.
also,
> There are even LGA775 boards from Intel that supposedly support EFI.
I have no idea how accurate any of this is :P
Can't find an actual model number anywhere...
Ah, looks like there's the GA-G41MT-S2PT with the 'hybrid EFI'
:S
looks like maybe the Intel D945PLNM too, but that's EFI, not UEFI
 
11:30 AM
@Bob I like your tenacity
 
11:59 AM
 
 
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1:07 PM
Why doesn't Amazon understand that people don't buy certain items every day like food and water?!
> Customers who have shown an interest in computers might like to know that for a limited time, select notebooks, desktops, and tablets are eligible for 12-month no-interest financing using the Amazon.com Store Card.
No joke. I just bought a computer. Does that mean I need another one on Tuesday, another on Wednesday and one more on Thursday? No. Stupid amazon.
 
1:23 PM
lol
 
I would really appreciate a checkbox Don't include this purchase in recommendation algorithm
 
why is everything being ported to js
 
Especially when I buy gifts for people
 
@OliverSalzburg lol yeah
@HackToHell because JS can be compiled by LLVM into native code; didn't you know? JS is the new lingua franca of the entire operating system ;p soon the kernel will have emscripten in it
jQuery for mathematical operations in the kernel. yum
 
@HackToHell Because of the web
 
1:36 PM
o0 Will that not be unsecure ?
 
@HackToHell JS by itself isn't inherently networked; running it doesn't require an HTTP server or anything like that
you can write perfectly valid non-networked JS code that just runs, like C or Ruby or anything
 
People are calling WebGL insecure
 
WebGL is insecure because using your graphics card is just screaming for drive-by bitcoin mining in advertisements ;p
somebody is going to get rich off of that, i swear
 
1:52 PM
I wonder if this guy is snakebitten by the P67 B2 stepping SATA controller PLL leakage flaw :D
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Q: Custom built PC slowly freezes up

ScottSo this is probably one of the weirdest PC issues I have ever experienced. I built my PC in the winter of 2011, so about 1.5 years ago. Here are the stats: ASUS P8P67 (REV 3.1) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit...

 
thats something worth commenting about ;p
 
@Sathya: basically, thats exactly what I was thinking when I came across that
or listy questions
 
yep
 
@Sathya What is the best site that acts as a community resource for collaboratively editing pages that help me quickly make decisions?
Maybe I should ask Slant
 
1:56 PM
lol
 
:-D
 
meta.slant?
 
@JourneymanGeek I love such questions. a million people will comment on a billion things they find 'best'.... based on shit they tried years ago & then never bother to update
 
@Sathya even questions that aren't very opinion-based can generate tons of nearly identical answers when everyone knows the answer
 
aye
 
2:02 PM
that part annoys me. we should use "Protected" more aggressively on certain popular questions which belong on the site but attract a lot of views and answers.
 
2:13 PM
Yay, I received my personal business cards today. They don't have any phone numbers or address on it, just all the URLs to my profiles and stuff. I hope they'll have a longer usefulness period than the normal ones
 
Does anyone else feel that? That's the feeling of a herd of non-technical users with Sandy Bridge "Cougar Point" chipsets with attached SATA 3Gb/s devices, stampeding onto the help communities of the internet (including SE), reporting weird symptoms like OS hangs. It's starting to be about the time when degraded SATA controllers with PLL overvolting would experience significant malfunction or total failure of the controller.
The articles I've read said that it should take more than a year before the symptoms are noticeable. So that's real soon now if they got their system in '11 or '12.
Apparently Intel and downstream vendors did a poor job of notifying consumers with defective chipsets.
I'm going to code up a Win32 executable with no dependencies that pops up a messagebox saying either, yes, you are affected by the cougar point chipset flaw, or no, you are safe
not while at work, but once I get home
ROFL
CLASSIC!!!! :D
my workstation at work is affected by the PLL overvolt flaw aaaahahahahahaha
I was just testing the command and, by God, I'm afflicted! :D
 
wait, didn't they get recalled?
 
@Sathya Yes, but apparently the communication that they got recalled never reached the folks in IT :D
a "recall" won't necessarily reach all ears if it isn't shouted loudly enough
 
2:32 PM
@allquixotic I didn't even know that exists
 
@OliverSalzburg most people don't, even techies ;p
 
SE is really making me feel less educated every day :P
 
@OliverSalzburg No; now you're smarter because you know about it
 
I know about it now, but I also know that I don't know what it means, how to detect it, how to fix it and if I need to know those things ;D
 
2:38 PM
@OliverSalzburg I think it is a good thing to know, because there are bound to be thousands upon thousands of installed systems with this bug (such as the one I am using to type this message) and the symptoms are pretty easy to detect.
 
Ah, yes, the Sandy Bridge SATA chipset issue. Funny business.
 
What it means: Intel "Cougar Point" H67 or P67 motherboard chipsets which were manufactured before a certain date have a flaw that slowly, over time, degrades the capability of the SATA II / 3Gb/s controller, until after about a year or two of normal use, it will stop functioning entirely
 
Luckily, none of the systems at home or work have SB-CP chipsets.
 
Not affected: non-Sandy Bridge chipsets, or Sandy Bridge chipsets manufactured after the problem was identified. Ivy Bridge is fine. Nehalem is fine. Core 2 is fine.
Also not affected: systems which ONLY attach to the 6 Gb/s ports on the motherboard, and never touch the 3 Gb/s.
 
Hello. Could someone recommend me a better WLAN adapter than an Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205? I have poor reception quality especially in very large networks (eg. university).
 
2:41 PM
How much do you have to spend?
 
How to detect: Random whole-system freezes or gradually falling I/O performance. Then identify the chipset revision; if the chipset revision is in scope (see the Softpedia article in my answer to the Q above), then the problem is likely the chipset.
How to fix: Get your chipset replaced for free by Intel or your manufacturer if you have a name brand box
 
Does it have to be internal or can it be external (PCI, USB, etc)
 
Do you need to know these things: Yes, you're a technologist, don't be silly Mr. Salzburg ;-D
 
It has to be an internal WLAN adapter for my laptop, Lenovo X220. Regarding the cost, it does not really matter, actually. Just what it costs.
 
@gbag Ah, so you need a Mini PCI-Express adapter then
have you tried updating your drivers first? ;x
@Bob @JourneymanGeek @OliverSalzburg superuser.com/questions/592570/…
apologies if one of you get hit with that support "call" later in the day (I figure in the next, oh, 8 hours ;D)
 
2:43 PM
Luckily I have a Z68. I faintly remember us talking about this or a similar subject previously, when I had SSD troubles
 
@OliverSalzburg Yes. The '68 isn't affected at all :)
 
@gbag: even if you replace the wifi adaptor it may not help with the antenna, assuming thats the issue
and Uni wifi tends to be horrid
 
@JourneymanGeek excellent point :D
it could just be a protocol compatibility issue, or a network congestion issue
 
@allquixotic According to Windows, my drivers are recent. The antenna, so is that a separate device than the adapter?
 
also, if other clients on the network don't have support for RTS/CTS, it can seriously interfere with your own adapter and there's not much you can do except hope the uni network requires RTS/CTS at some point
@gbag The antenna runs along the interior of the LCD screen on one side, if I recall correctly from taking apart my X61
 
2:45 PM
@gbag: basically your laptop comes with a pair (or more!) of antenna built in, I've a X220 with a even lower end card than yours and it works ok at home, and horribly in school
 
don't assume it's a radio/hardware problem though
it could be a protocol (digital) problem where your adapter and the base station aren't "speaking the same language"
 
or just shitty wifi config
 
assume that I come from a territory that speaks "English", but the colloquial term for "Left" is actually what most people call "Right", and vice versa.
If you're driving and I tell you, "Turn left!" imagine my surprise as you turn in the direction that you consider to be right.
 
At uni, it's that I sometimes get disconnected or can't establish a connection at all. At home, when I'm 2 rooms further away from my WLAN adapter, my speed drops from 75 MBit/s to 15.
 
one of my old schools had a place where the wireless would cut out whenever someone opened and closed a door
what frequency?
 
2:48 PM
You mean my dropout frequency?
 
no, the frequency you are using to connect
 
No, your wifi GHz frequency (spectrum). You have 2 choices: 2.4 or 5
 
tho many shittier wifi cards only do 2.4, even with N
 
Oh that. At uni, I choose 2.4 over 5 because it's easier to connect to and I don't get that many disconnects.
At home, I have 5.
 
hmm. 5 has shorter range, better connection quality in that range
which might explain why the speed drops
 
2:50 PM
At uni, I can choose between 5 SSIDs: public, public-5, eth, eth-5, eduroam. For whatever reason, public tends to be most stable for me.
 
do the 5 GHz base stations support 802.11n, or just 802.11a?
 
the 5 GHz ones are n networks
 
hmm. might be your Centrino hw is Draft N, and the base stations are final N, or vice versa
wow
that chipset is actually really, really good
2x2 MIMO, dual band AGN
 
You're also suggesting that even if I were to replace my WLAN card, my reception quality would probably not increase because my WLAN antenna might be shitty, right?
 
@gbag it's a possibility, but another possibility is that you have a software problem, or a protocol problem rather than a hardware / EMF problem
for instance, you could hold your laptop right up to the base station (a few inches away with no interference) in a clean room and still get dropouts and crap signal. I've seen it happen. that's protocol, not EMF.
your 6205 is not Draft N; it's Final. I wonder if your uni installed APs before final N came out ;p
 
2:58 PM
I really love it when I start a machine and the first thing that pops up is the "You have to restart the computer for your changes to take effect" dialog
 
I read that my uni only recently upgraded their WLAN routers, so that even 250 students in one room can send an answer to a live online poll.
 
@OliverSalzburg Especially if it's because you've just plugged a USB stick or removeable device in. NO WTF DO NOT WANT
 
And by "I really love it" i mean "I really hate it"
 
Public Sub Desktop1_OnFinishLoad()
If (New Random().NextInt() % 10) < 5 Then User32.DoPromptReboot()
End Sub
 
3:25 PM
If my board can handle 1600Mhz DIMMs, would there be any reason to get lower ones? Except for price?
And don't give me one of those "It depends" answers!! O__O
 
@OliverSalzburg It depends
 
@OliverSalzburg Price is the main issue; also, one of the central tenants of digital circuitry is that something that runs faster is also going to run hotter, which is why very high-end RAM comes with heat spreaders while slower RAM doesn't
So if price is a non-issue for you, and thermal profile (amount of heat dissipation) is a non-issue for you, go for the faster RAM as long as your motherboard supports it
 
@allquixotic It also makes them look cooler
Yeah, I want to upgrade the RAM from 16 to 32 GB (which is the maximum for this board). So I thought, why not also max out the frequency, then I can sleep better
I want the ones with the cool name, like Dominator!
 
@OliverSalzburg K!LL3R-X XTREEM DOMINATION PRO OC 32GB DDR3.9999 2000000+HZ ENTHUSIAST GIGA-SUPER-RAM
 
3:38 PM
Yes!
 
lol
@OliverSalzburg: Apparently Puget systems thinks it makes no difference
I'd personally suggest getting the same sorta ram you have now
worth reading
interesting thing is they claim high frequency ram fails more often
 
@JourneymanGeek if it's not made to proper spec, that makes perfect sense. run something hotter and use the same low quality parts as a chip rated for a slower rate, and yeah, you're going to see more cooked chips
1366 MHz quality RAM overclocked to 1866 is folly; it's going to die an early death and shouldn't even be sold that way (although unfortunately it is)
1866 MHz quality RAM at its factory speed (not OCed) will probably work well, given proper heat dissipation
car analogy incoming: it's like using very harsh acceleration in a casual consumer vehicle like a toyota camry or something; the high RPMs will wear out the engine sooner than a driver who accelerates more modestly. whereas, if you accelerated at the same rate (in meters per second) in a performance-oriented vehicle, it could stably achieve that performance without being sent to an early junkyard/grave
 
@allquixotic: I was under the impression it was the same ram, but binned after testing
 
@JourneymanGeek if they're binning it based on an assessment of the fab results, that might be okay, but you have to figure that they want to sell RAM at enthusiast prices despite it being technically graded at a lower bin rate :P
 
that too ;p
 
3:50 PM
manufacturers and vendors will do anything to make a buck, even if they have to bin lower quality parts in a higher bin for the $$$
can imagine them saying (probably in Chinese) "meh, this is close enough; it'll work at least until after their warranty expires in 6 months / a year"
 
I'll probably get KHX16C9X3K4/32X I have Kingston HyperX RAM right now as well. And that kit has the same timings as my current one
Except that it'll be 1600Mhz and 32 GB
 
bad experience with kingston, but YMMV
 
And it's not as expensive as the Corsair Dominator Kit, which has higher timings
 
i went with Komputerbay
incredible prices, works as advertised, been running stable at rated speed for a year and a half
dunno how they do it, especially the price, but hey
 
3:53 PM
@allquixotic Never heard of them. Do they sell in the EU?
 
@OliverSalzburg they sell on Amazon
 
@allquixotic Indeed
Only SD cards here though
 
i also have excellent experience with Corsair products (RAM and PSU), extremely high build quality, they don't cut corners and the support folks are nice :) only downside is cost, whew, cost
 
They have DIMMs on Ebay
Sold from the UK
 
I think "you get what you pay for" should be rewritten as "you get at least as much as you pay for, but sometimes more" ;P
Corsair = you get what you pay for. $$$$$ in, quality out
Komputerbay = you get more than you pay for, only $ in, quality out
 
3:56 PM
@allquixotic The Corsair Vengeance Kit CMZ32GX3M4A1600C9 is even cheaper than the one I picked from Kingston
 
dafuq :D
@OliverSalzburg weird :D
 
Now I'm even more conflicted!
 
@OliverSalzburg flip a coin :D heads, corsair. tails, kingston
 
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