You can waste your time, manually forcing stuff to move around, and the next thing will go into the hole.

Instead the herassment from people who know this is a total waste of time, discounts that the person might want to dig a hole, and put a certian body into it :-)

Memory isn't supposed to manually controlled, and any attempt to do that (with so-called RAM boosters that are worse than placebo) is just a waste of time...

They are typically categorized together with registry boosters, disk boosters and so on. If you're down it that category, you don't know what you are doing.

@TomWijsman And i never doubted that, it is the statements we have all seen that say it can cause things to go all badly. it CAN, but manually controlling it it doesnt have to. If someone chooses to have a little tool to bump the system, it is thier choice.

@Psycogeek So, why are you even arguing (or ranting, dunno what you are trying to bring over here) then?

So here is the last step, I flushed out everything, with RamMap, jammed everyting into paging, remember this is taking 10seconds. it took up to 10 seconds to recover from the "test" . Again people do NOT say your results will vary, or sure maby you can bump it a bit, and be cool, instead it is Your an Idiot, they have Zero value, and you will mess things up.

@Psycogeek There is no can, it does because it makes your memory forget things.

@TomWijsman Ok, first it was to get it to forget, a cache that will have a 36% use if ever again. no big loss.

And more importantly the system was acting like a 20% dog, measured it was nothing, but the feeling sucked. I spent more time wondering what was going wrong than it took to bump it a bit.

Again i am also not advocating the automatic freeing either.

I use some of the same principals in the android system, that wants to keep everything running, even when i am about to open a program that is going to need a lot, and shouldnt have to dynamically fight while i am playing a game.

The android system usually and most often releaces as needed, and that little stupid app that I can tell stuff to go away also can be used manuel, when I feel that i want that vrses the other.

I like the tombstoning and max-X-processes approach of WP7. No CPU hogging... :)

@TomWijsman and in english , what is that?

A large, flat inscribed stone standing or laid over a grave. :)

So yeah, it basically does that to processes and revive their state later on.

Now that would be deserving of it . Here lies windows 7, thought it was great, because vista sucked so bad.

(Don't see what that has to do with Mobile OSes... :/)

@TomWijsman you mean the preloading of stuff, that sometimes i run sometimes i dont? Can we take that as an example? What if the system knows 50% of the time what i am going to do. And a little manuel shortcut i push and Bling, IT unloads all its belief system, manually and temporarily, while I fire up One photo program, and use every chip of ram on the board.

Thats what i am trying to say, sure driving down the freeway at 55Mph saving gas, and acting proper , and following all the rules is the perfect system. Then I want to do a Run on the AutoBahn , then go back to the normal perfect world created for me.

@TomWijsman Because mobile systems are underpowered, dont have spit for ram? and some of the programs try and take every transister in the whole system for themselves. For some reason the whole system chokes, more than they should when they get to the 85-90% . But if I can be given from the gods, a manuel button that says "lets play a game, and dont slow me down" , then a person can choose.

Games, photo manipulation, video (depending on bitrate and res) , and some drawing programs, are really haveing a hard time on lesser systems. The process of freeing memory, and paging, does require I/O , and it gets in the way, sometimes.

been hanging out on forums lately

been making me actually appreciate SE and how it's designed (even though it is not an actual forum)

and I've caught the vehicle modding bug SO bad... good thing I don't have any $$$ :P

@Psycogeek (Don't see what that has to do with Mobile OSes... :/)

@Psycogeek As said, that's not what WP7 does.

@TomWijsman it doesnt have anything to do with mobile systems as run in a SDK on a desktop :-)

@Psycogeek: You're answering to a Mobile OS chat message. And you just took out the O of OS.

Time to go catch the night...

@TomWijsman where? I was just going over another paging experience, i even demonstrated it here to witnesses. and I agree with both the way the systems are designed normally, and any way that a person would want to change that, for specific purposes.

Hi guys, would really appreciate more help on this one :) superuser.com/questions/406807/…

@studiohack Did that a few days ago... just can't go back to using forums :P

(And I was a forum addict, got a LOT of posts out there)

@SimonSheehan lol

"guy i met" not reliable ;p

but ya, there's methods to crack WPA-PSK IF the keys are short

aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=cracking_wpa

@Boris_yo The bruteforce time is (exponentially) proportional to the length of the passphrase used, so yes you can bruteforce one in a short amount of time, provided the key is short. Longer ones take longer. It is best to use a unique SSID as this is used as the salt for the key, and so unique ssids means that there are unlikely to be rainbow tables available that match

(long and short here are dependent on the amount of PSKs you can test per second)

@Paul You mean unique SSID is less prone to attacks compared to public SSID which also has a lot of connected clients?

Spend $10 and 33GB space. And you can break WPA passphrases faster..

renderlab.net/projects/WPA-tables

Rainbow tables

or just lookup tables. :P

or torrent it

33gb

How long would it take for you?

quite a while.

;p

But as long as there's enough seeds, its plausible

thats too large for even a 32GB usb drive

sigh

naw, external HDD

probably why its so expensive

unless they send it in a very large stack of DVDs

oh , they do

@Boris_yo No, I just mean that if your ssid is "NETGEAR" there probably already exists a rainbow table for it (a huge list of pre-computed passphrases), however if it is "boris_yo" it is unlikely that someone has already created a rainbow table for it

:hmm

going to rebuilt my server setup in april

need to decide if i want to go for a RH derivative, ubuntu or a rolling release distro of somesort

@Bibhas So i just charge this rainbow table into software and hack WPA fast?

anybody have any good suggestions for network penetration testing tools?

@SimonSheehan I still visit, honestly, the 2 can't be compared. Not a straight forward comparison

If your 2-pin device is connected to UPS that has 2 pins and 1 ground pin, does that assume the former device is grounded?

Can anyone tell me what is difference between an Firefox addon and an Firefox extension?

Technical difference..

@Borisyo Can you?

@Santosh Chrome extension & firefox addon.

same thing, different terms.

@Borisyo: 2 pins should not need grounding

@JourneymanGeek And what if i took laptop with 3 pins abroad and have universal travel adapter that does not have grounding pin? How to still ground laptop?

laptop is, in theory double insulated, or the PSU should be

or just hope there's no short

@Sathya I think Firefox extension is equivalent to Google Chrome extension and Firefox addon is equivalent to Google Chrome app. Am I right?

@Santosh there's no difference, really. Mozilla terms extensions, plugins, themes as add-ons

@Sathya I think he asked about difference between Firefox addon and extension. Where you got Chrome?

@Boris_yo I misread, my bad.

@Boris_yo Yeah. Something like that.

I think addons include plugins and themes

@Santosh "Add-on" encapsulates everything from plugin to theme

persona

addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox

the site is called add-ons hence

things you can add on to the software. :P

like language packs

everything you can see in the site, are addons

An extension extends the functionality of the browser, a plugin plugs allows you to plug functionality into a web page, a theme allows you to style the browser; all of these add stuff on your browser.

Kinda like that... Is that correct?

The firefox-addon --> firefox-extension is kinda wrong, should be the other way around... @Sathya :D

@TomWijsman yeah, well

Interesting superuser.com/questions/406999/…

I had the same issue.

But I found that it relates to over heating of the system.

dunno how

but when the lappy overheats, it starts to eat up cpu

only in Windows 7

Fine in Ubuntu

@Bibhas: Normal behavior.

How!

@Bibhas Moment...

@TomWijsman Did you run thy boot trace in WPR ?

@HackToHell Which boot trace?

ohkay, so Overheat -> increase fan speed -> slow processor -> more utilization (CPU hogging). Right?

@TomWijsman For analysing windows performance ...

I'm confused what you are trying to ask?

Well, since you like to try everything, I was wondering if you tried to run the Boot Trace in WPR.

Am I still confusing you ?

@HackToHell: Ah, I ran any form of trace I think... :D

All traces in WPR, most traces in WAC.

I was thinking you were talking about something specific, hence the confusion.

@TomWijsman Oh okay.

@Bibhas Got your answers?

@Bibhas No. Overheat -> Slow down processor -> Less cycles / time.

@HackToHell: Almost had that copied to Google it. :D

@TomWijsman yeah. i explained it wrong.

@TomWijsman You do not know that ?? Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

Sorry wrong thingy in clipboard

top 10 pranks. :P

@Bibhas You have not seen this superuser.com/questions/275894/… , my friends hate me for this ;p

This book is great amazon.com/Practical-Malware-Analysis-Dissecting-Malicious/dp/…

this is just sad. Any website can log you out of any google services. :-/

And the internet is not down today thehackernews.com/2012/03/… guess DNS servers are after all well protected ;p

Google's Map's 8-bit's street view looks like shit.

Anyone knows of any way to spoof a request header to pass through this - Origin http://localhost is not allowed by Access-Control-Allow-Origin. ?

trying to check a vulnerability

@HackToHell Nope, Dutch books (which I haven't read) and first three movies also watched in Dutch some years ago and the others in English.

Draco associated it with HP though, but I wasn't certain...

dormiens is related to the French dormir, which means the verb sleep.