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12:18 AM
@El'endiaStarman That's a remarkably pretty version of Jesus.
 
 
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1:57 AM
@Flimzy What is it about? Moreover, why do you think it is something I would enjoy?
I think I should get out of the house and meet new people more often. Flimzy does not fit my idea of a Mennonite. Before I met him, I thought Mennonites had distinctive, old-fashioned modest clothing and hats, and were theologically related to the Amish.
 
 
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3:35 AM
@Anonymous They are theologically related to the Amish, but many Mennonites have adopted a more modern lifestyle.
 
 
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6:10 AM
HAHA.
 
 
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Zoe
8:14 AM
Could you guys dig into your mind palaces and do some verse hunt for me? Is there a Chapter 1 verse 1 from the Bible that starts with the words "I would never" or the likes?
The nearest I could find when I search "Bible 1:1 I would never" on Google is Joshua 1:5 "No man shall be able to stand before you all the days of your life; as I was with Moses, so I will be with you. I will not leave you nor forsake you."
 
 
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9:22 AM
@fredsbend That looks better, but it's not, strictly speaking, proper use of pre-formatting, since it requires you to embed newlines that don't exist. It also likely doesn't appear properly on all display devices (namely mobile phones in this case).
 
 
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10:27 AM
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Q: "Biblical basis" vs "what the Bible says about a subject"

FlimzyWe seem to have a more or less a consensus on our site that asking for the Biblical basis for a doctrine is permitted, even encouraged. We also tend to allow "What does the Bible say about X?" questions: Where does the Bible stand on vegetarianism? What does the Bible say about vegetarian diet...

 
 
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1:12 PM
@zoe I don't think so, there is a verse like that at the end of Matthew
 
 
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Zoe
3:20 PM
@bruisedreed Not exact but I'm pretty sure it's not Matthew
 
3:38 PM
@Zoe well none of the books from the bible start that way
 
4:18 PM
@Flimzy You're right, I added the line breaks, but that typically doesn't affect markup. Admittedly, I have no experience with this particular markup.
> “Meaningless! Meaningless!”
says the Teacher.
“Utterly meaningless!
Everything is meaningless.”
Your question reminded me of this book's start.
An interesting way to start a Biblical book, I think.
> How long, Lord, must I call for help,
but you do not listen?
Or cry out to you, “Violence!”
but you do not save?
Another, similar voiced book.
 
Zoe
@fredsbend ? It doesn't have "I would never..."
 
 
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5:30 PM
Searching on the US Conference of Catholic Bishops' website, which includes the full text of the New American Bible, the only "I would never" that I find is from Judith 11:2 - "As for your people who live in the hill country, I would never have raised my spear against them, had they not insulted me. They have brought this upon themselves. "
 
Zoe
5:46 PM
@MattGutting I doubt it's Judith because it's not in the Bible that I read
For now, I am settling for Joshua 1:5 until someone confirms otherwise
 
6:08 PM
Are you sure it's "I would never" not "I will never"?
 
Zoe
@MattGutting Joshua 1:5 seems to be the closest in a 66 book Bible
 
6:39 PM
@Zoe I think the conclusion then should be that you remember it incorrectly. It either is not at the start of the book, or it is actually different words, but are hung up on "I would never." Right now, I looks like a combination of both.
 
Zoe
@fredsbend I distinctly remember "I would never..." but the verse I don't remember. All I know is, there was something that looked like a number 1. The funny thing is, when I woke up this afternoon, the words "I would never forsake you" came to my mind and a distinct chapter 1 (but I dont rmb the book name)
 
@Zoe I will never forsake you is pretty common phrase in the bible. They are distinct phrases, but similar.
 
Zoe
The first thing I did was to open my laptop and do a Google search of "Bible 1:1 I would never" and the top result is Joshua 1, a book that I have never read before.
@fredsbend What are the chances of it being in the first chapter, though?
 
little. From what I can tell thus far. Hebrew 13:5 is "I will never leave you nor forsake you."
Which is think is a quote from Joshua 1:5
 
Zoe
@fredsbend I also had an impression that it was either a G or J start because of the sound it read.
 
6:47 PM
Or Deuteronomy 31:8
 
Zoe
Sigh, I promised myself that I would search one last time and then move on and just be contented with Joshua 1:5. But God knows I cannot be convinced by myself alone, ever.
 
Allow me to help you. You likely remembered it incorrectly.
 
Zoe
@fredsbend Thanks. Okay, well here goes...
While, I woke up immediately after the dream ended, so it is very unlikely I would remember it wrongly coz I wrote the dream down as I did every other dream right after I woke. If I rmb it incorrectly, i must have rmb it incorrectly when I woke up also
Joshua 1:5 is most relevant right now because from monday to tuesday this morning, I was worried about what would happen on wednesday (which is today, but its 2am now) and I asked (didn't pray) for a dream about it.
Well*
This is the only "I would never" in the NKJV Bible I think: Job 6:28 Now therefore, be pleased to look at me; For I would never lie to your face.
Is there a place where I can search every 1:1 in the Bible?
Ahh, you know what, I'm just gonna go to sleep and stop thinking about it that much.
Good night ya'll~
 
7:47 PM
@fredsbend Actually, I think this is more pertinent: books.google.com/ngrams/…
@fredsbend It's way earlier than what they're saying with those answers, also those answers are not focusing on the meaning you are asking for.
 
8:12 PM
@bruisedreed Well, what this is turning into is what looks like at least two independently developed usages; possibly three. A perfect answer would discuss all of them.
 
8:31 PM
@bruisedreed TED's answer actually indicates that one usage might be as old as the 20's or 30's. I would bet the one reflected in the ngrams there is the jinx usage.
 

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