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1:28 AM

Acts 2:40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.”
Acts 2:41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.

Eh. Close enough.

@TheodoreA.Jones I see that you have included in parentheses that God authored the Bible and sent his word through angels.

Biblical inspiration

Biblical inspiration is the doctrine in Christian theology that the authors and editors of the Bible were led or influenced by God with the result that their writings may be designated in some sense the word of God. Etymology The word "inspiration" comes from the Latin noun inspiratio and from the verb inspirare. Inspirare is a compound term resulting from the Latin prefix in (inside, into) and the verb spirare (to breathe). Inspirare meant originally "to blow into", as for example in the sentence of the Roman poet Ovid: "conchae [...] sonanti inspirare iubet" ("he orders to blow into ...

If you scroll down the page, then the closest form of biblical inspiration that matches what you believe is Dictation Theory, which, in my opinion, is very similar to the Islamic view of the Qu'ran.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that 40 men authored the Bible, and the characters conversed with God through angels.

So apparently, Theodore A. Jones is not a Jehovah's Witnesses; he is most likely an Evangelical.

David Stratton

@TheodoreA.Jones - I just reviewed a couple of your suggested edits. I rejected both of them for the same reason, and as a courtesy, I'm posting this to explain. It is not O.K. to change the meaning of another user's post to match your own theological point. If you have an answer to post that is different than another one, post your own answer. This isn't a rejection of your theological points, just a friendly explanation of what is and isn't acceptable on a StackExchange site.

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The key issue is that the edits changed the meaning of the post, not what you posted, in and of itself.

Anonymous

@DavidStratton Does your profile picture portray your child? He looks adorable!

David Stratton

@Anonymous - Yes. He's our fearless child. He's standing on top of our van. We walked out into the garage to see him out there, on top of the van, playing with the garage door opener.

Anonymous

@DavidStratton How in the world did he get up there?

David Stratton

@Anonymous Just stood on the bumper and climbed up the front. It's a Chevy Venture, which makes a surprisingly easy climb for adventurous little boys.

Anonymous

1:44 AM

@DavidStratton I was just wondering, do you agree with Theodore A. Jones' belief in biblical inspiration - that God wrote the Bible wholly and truly?

David Stratton

I haven't been reading many of his posts, so I can't answer that yet... I'd have to read some of his stuff. I se he's ben active in here, too, but I haven't bothered to go and read the older posts.

Anonymous

@DavidStratton Did he scrap the paint off?

David Stratton

hang on and I can find a question on the site that tells what I believe about how God wrote the Bible... What I believe is basically called Plenary Inspiration...

Anonymous

@DavidStratton OK. Never mind. You don't believe the same thing as the other guy.

David Stratton

No. He had bare feet. That's the least of what our little one has done. Every day is an adventure with him. When he was two years old or so, he figured out how to open the window and crawl out of it to avoid nap time and go play outside instead.

Crawled out the window and went straight for the road. I saw him just as he was walking onto the road.

Flooded our basement three times in two weeks... All sorts of mischeif he gets into.

Anonymous

1:49 AM

@DavidStratton So, how did he manage to avoid falling out of the house? There is usually a height from the windowsill to the floor. And the bedroom is typically on the second floor, unless it's a ranch-style house.

David Stratton

fortunately for him, the people that built this house put the air conditioner unit right under the window.

Anonymous

@DavidStratton Maybe it's safer to lock him inside.

David Stratton

H ecrawled doen to that and that's only three feet tall, so that was no problem for him to jump down.

Yep. He's six now, and much easier to handle.

Anonymous

@DavidStratton How old are you?

David Stratton

44.

I started old, and he was a surprise.

Anonymous

1:52 AM

@DavidStratton So, he was born when you were 38, and at that time, he was a "surprise" or unexpected.

When did you convert to Christianity?

@DavidStratton Why did you convert to Christianity? What compelled you to convert to Christianity?

David Stratton

1999 December, I believe. It might have been January of 2000.

As far as what..... Long story.

Anonymous

@DavidStratton So, you have been a Christian for 13 years or so, and your child is presumably born in 2007, approximately. He's the only child?

@DavidStratton I like long stories. :)

David Stratton

No, he's not. There are four others.

Anonymous

@DavidStratton How old are they?

Five children! You must have been fertile!

David Stratton

I'm hesitant to post too much about my kids anywhere online, so forgive me for not giving specifics, but they range in age from 19 down to 6.

Anonymous

1:58 AM

@DavidStratton Wow. You became a father at 25.

David Stratton

So, I'm just curious about why you find teh Christianity.SE site so fascinating....

Anonymous

@DavidStratton So, that means your firstborn child was raised atheist.

@DavidStratton I find it mystical.

David Stratton

So, forgive me, i don't spend too much time in chat, so i don't really know all that much about you other than your posts. I feel like I should know you better, given how long you've been around, and I apologize for not asking sooner. If I'm not mistaken, you're not Christian.

What are your beliefs?

Anonymous

@DavidStratton None whatsoever.

David Stratton

My first two weren't mine originally. They came with the marriage.

So atheist, or something else?

Anonymous

2:02 AM

@DavidStratton Pretty much.

I have to admit that I actually like reading academic peer-reviewed journals in Religion and Philosophy and Biblical Studies.

Sometimes, they may talk about interpretation or hermeneutics of biblical scripture, which can be very thought-provoking and insightful.

David Stratton

there is a lot that's interesting out there. It's surprising how much variation there is within just Christianity. You'd expect differences in completely different religions, such as Christianity vs. Wicca, but it's all quite interesting to me, too.

I like this site mostly because when I come here I'm not surrounded completely by like-minded people, but everyone that follows the rules seems to get along and understand each other pretty well.

Of course, there are some like-minded people, but there are enough alternative views to keep it interesting.

@Anonymous] It's been nice chatting with you, but it's time for me to go. Talk to you again another time!

Anonymous

@DavidStratton Please check out my top answers on the SE sometime! :D

David Stratton

2:53 AM

@TheodoreA.Jones - Just wondering if there's a reason you're not just posting your own answers? Once you've gained enough reputation, you'll be able to comment on answers you disagree with, instead of making invalid edits that are just going to be rolled back anyway.

I have the feeling you'd have a lot to contribute to the site, if you'd just follow the site guidelines. have you seen the help pages yet?

Theodore A. Jones

@DavidStratton Friend what I post are direct quotes that have been written in the scripture. I may have also made a comment or two. But it is the quote of what is written which exposes that the above assumptive is a contrary conclusion in regard to the quote.

David Stratton

@TheodoreA.Jones So... You're in effect saying "Hang the site guidelines I'm on a holy quest... I have God on my side, and I could care less about inconveniences such as etiquette, learning how to participate constructively, or following the same rules that apply to you heathens", is that about it?

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I'm not arguing the Truth of what you're posting, I'm just saying there is a specific format and you'd get your message out better if you'd learn it is all.

The way you're going about it, it's all going to get deleted and do nobody any good.

Theodore A. Jones

3:12 AM

@Anonymous The paren. is a ref. to Heb. 12:2 and in regard to Acts 7:53&Gal. 3:19.

How that twist got into your head was from your own misjudgement of using it.

TRiG

@TheodoreA.Jones Boo yah you suck is not, actually, a productive way to engage.

paging @Caleb.

Remind me next week to answer with a rebuttal. Of course we don't know all the details but we have some good clues. It's about glorifying himself and his son. — Caleb Sep 22 '11 at 21:12

TildalWave

3:49 AM

Hi folks, came here on the wings of moderation, chat flagged ... @TheodoreA.Jones I'm not sure what you're referring to, but sounds to me it warrants a new answer, rather than edit of a previous one? There is IMO such a thing as "too substantial edits" LOL

Theodore A. Jones

@TildalWave Since you have not stated what you are referring to I have no idea of what you are referring to.

TildalWave

@TheodoreA.Jones Well I only read a few last posts so I'm referring to your last argument over those suggested edits

Krazer

4:05 AM

@TheodoreA.Jones A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.

TildalWave

behave or beehive?

David Stratton

@TheodoreA.Jones Credibility as a "Christian": Lost. "Religious circle jerks"? Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? Matthew 15:11 "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."

Theodore A. Jones

@TildalWave Argument not posting them? If you people think the content of the last few post are inappropriate, callous, divisive etc. and make it your ordained task to remove them so be it. Contact with me is unnecessary in my opinion.

David Stratton

@TildalWave - feel free to delete my comments as offensive as well, if you like or if you feel they are over the line. I probably should have ignored it, behaved, and gone to bed. I'll take no offense.

TildalWave

@TheodoreA.Jones Well you see, this is where you're now presumptuous and wrong about it too. I didn't even read any of your suggested edits, in fact, I don't even frequent on this site. I'm only here because a chat flag was raised, that's all. And reading the few last posts on the flagged dispute, I thought to suggest there might be a point in posting separate answers instead. It's your choice then, what you do with a friendly advice.

David Stratton

4:14 AM

I started out wanting to just give friendly advice, things just went south, somehow.\

Theodore A. Jones

@DavidStratton Your comment was not clear in regard to your intent.

TildalWave

@DavidStratton I don't think anything here is over the line that warrants moderation. It's a content dispute. Granted, you could all try to have a bit more patience with each other, but that's just my opinion. And another one is, that all this energy could be converted to more productive use for all involved. ;)

Theodore A. Jones

OPPOS reply was intended for tidal wave

TildalWave

@TheodoreA.Jones Tildal, not Tidal ;) But OK, I get that a lot.

David Stratton

Yeah, I started out trying to give friendly advice, but things went south. I'm going to duck out anyway. I should've left it alone once I realized it was going south.

Theodore A. Jones

4:20 AM

@TildalWave posting an answer has been disallowed in regard to the content of my post since they do not conform to the contemporary multiplex of so called "Christian" assumptions.

TildalWave

@TheodoreA.Jones I think I could use a link to whichever question you're referring to, I can't be certain what you even meant by your last reply to me here. But the site's descriptions is IMO pretty clear:

> Christianity Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for committed Christians, experts in Christianity and those interested in learning more.

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