@waxeagle Um.... burn it with fire? I guess I'd have to see the question body but that sounds like it would come from somebody who pre-loaded the question with a bunch of assumptions that would have to be dealt with first and it would end up being a debate/discussion thread.
@waxeagle It's very difficult to define what "wreck the economy" would look like.
@JonathonByrd Don't sweat it too much. It's not just you, he's been after some other folks too. If there is anything offensive, flag it. If there are any points worth responding to do so graciously with clear reasoning, then let it go.
@waxeagle Agreed, and so my answer to the question would be "no", but the examples would have to be clear enough so as not to spark "what about" issues where other cases muddy the waters.
@Caleb right. And there is an argument to be made that if one person came to Christ through the destruction of a local economy it was totally worth it (a severely flawed argument IMO). A valid question on this topic has to be incredibly carefully constructed, and I'm not sure there is a way to do it in this format
@waxeagle Just wait until we Skeptics notice the site ;-) (don't worry, we're not here to cause trouble, though at least I think some of the science on the site needs some correcting)
@Fabian we welcome you with open arms and (likely) closed minds :)
I'm certainly receptive to community experts (or just skeptics) chiming in on science topics as I feel like its at the very least the establishment perspective and should be presented here.
I don't intend to intrude on the faith topics, that would likely just cause trouble, but you have some bad science on the site, and that will likely not stay without opposition.
I think it would be great on this site if we could get Scripture popups from a provider such as that offered by Blue Letter Bible, which allows you to type references like "John 3:16 (KJV)" or "John 1:1-5 (YLT)" and gives you a hover event for them that displays the verses in a popup div.
That w...
Libertarianism as I understand it (from reading lots and lots of Robert Heinlein Sci Fi) is the idea that laws should be crafted so that personal liberties are always acknowledged. So long as you don't hurt anyone else, whatever you do is OK. Drugs, Sex etc... are legally OK, but it's not advoc...
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God is a God of Love. God is also a God of Hate. If you love you must also hate. If you love children then you will hate abortion. God is angry with those enemies of his that practice sin.
Hebrews 10:26-27
New International Version (NIV)
26 If we deliberately keep on sinnin...
I just want to laugh about Jurgens comment here
hehe
my question is... who's the God that He knows? cuz it doesn't sound like the God of the Bible.
That's two downvotes from Jurgens, I don't think he likes my theology.
lol
@waxeagle There'
@waxeagle There's a difference between our disagreements tho. Ours are there so that Iron may sharpen Iron. (Calmly stated with no hate towards Jurgens, he's probably a good guy) but I don't think he wants to be sharpened
I think that's the making of a good tagline :) Iron sharpening Iron
@JonathonByrd right our disagreements are less vendetta and more discussion. Honestly around here if I see something I disagree with I just ignore it, its not worth down voting unless its egregious (although I can see how some folks could see your answer as egregious). We both obviously believe those people to be misinformed, but that's their beliefs
Most of us probably have a lot of vague ideas about Heaven. But when I really start to think about it, I can't back most of my ideas with the Bible.
What do we actually know about Heaven?
A Jehovah Witness and I spoke the other day and he showed explained to me that JW's believe that we'll live on earth after we die.
Is there any scripture to back this up?
@JonathonByrd Good question. The answer is yes after the earth is destroyed and reformed :). However I don't have the time to answer it fully. Maybe it will still be around for me later
The expression "hate the sin, love the sinner" gets thrown about in both Christian and non-Christian circles, but it does not seem to a bible verse? Is it a biblical concept?
Some say "that's the way that Jesus lived". Are there examples of Jesus conduct that demonstrate this one way or another?
I think this is a very Christian concept. God hates sin, and in fact he hates sinners.
However, we do not know who God has elected to save and so we should treat everyone with the love and respect that he has given to us.
Matt 22:37-40 (NIV)
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with ...
@waxeagle A lot, I'm sure. If another answer that doesn't expand on WHY we believe that to be the case I might ask you to, but for now I think it's fine.
@waxeagle In my opinion it shows us that God display's His love to his enemies, like He commands us to do. But in reality, it doesn't mean that God has any blessings towards His enemies.
@waxeagle In fact we see that the opposite is true. It might make a good question to dig into the dynamics of God loving the things that He hates.
Ya just found it. And that yes @dancek sounds right. That's hilarious ... and sorry about the mixup. My fault for not checking context. You might want to actually put a footnote on that that you mean the people group not theological faction.
@waxeagle @JonathonByrd Right on clue. So should I throw out a question specifically about how john 3:16 can be read different ways or should we wait for Hermanutics?
@JonathonByrd: That sounds like a stretch to me... possibly drawing an artificial distinction between "blessing" and "compassion/respect." I know many Christians who consider those things to be blessings when they receive them.
I think the number one problem with Christians, is that they only remember what they want to remember. Whatever concretes their presumptions prior to reading.
So many of them read over the other stuff and IT DOESN'T EVEN PHASE THEM
Nothing personal you understand, just a personal issue. And I will eventually suggest some formatting guidelines on meta and we can talk through them there.
"To sin is to commit an action which is frowned upon by God. Several examples of sins are set forth by the bible, such as those illustrated in the ten commandments (ten-commandments)."
Purmou: It's a big improvement... although I don't like the phrase "frowned upon"... sounds too informal. (and might be hard for some non-native speakers to understand)
@Caleb probably.. I was raised with the belief that you say a prayer and you're saved. Then God visited me one night and my life has been on fire ever since. After a few days of solid tears of course...
@Purmou I don't think tag wiki's are going to be able to hold theological definitions like that. The summaries just need to point people in the right direction as far as how the tag fits into use of the site.
I have never heard of any verse more quoted and memorized than this one. Many people know it without knowing a single other thing about Christianity.* If there was one verse we don't need to quote in a post this would be it, but here it is for reference anyway:
John 3:16 (ESV)
For God so l...
But to really dissect the verse, we have to define "the world," "believe," and "eternal life". And I suspect asking for specific interpretation of each of those is a separate question.
Tradition says Moses compiled the book of Genesis, along with writing the rest of the Torah.
However from Wikipedia:
Tradition credits Moses as the author of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, but the books are in fact anonymous and look back on Moses as a figure from the d...
@Purmou Tried to present both sides with an edit. I think its fair to just say we don't know. I think AiG can be a bit dogmatic at times. I don't think anyone will lose faith over Moses no having written the Torah
@Flimzy Mostly "world" but is only relevant in terms of what it is that God loved, so in a sense both. This controversy only comes up in the context of the scope of God's loving vs hating.
That would be one of my concerns with being a moderator actually. Fiddling with people's stuff is one thing as a peer and taken as a user helping out, but as a mod I'm afraid it might be seen as overbearing.
@Purmou: I think I just clobbered your suggested edit while trying to fix the title. Also it looks like you were editing an old version of the post because it had you deleting a bunch of stuff. Sorry about not getting the verse reference merged tho, can you add that bit back?
We need to be careful not to change the content of people's questions when we edit them...
adding a reference is good...
I like to follow the rule never to make stylistic changes, except to correct bad grammar or spelling, or remove extraneous phrases like "Thanks in advance!" and in this example "So my first question is:" (followed by 2 questions)
@Purmou Doesn't count. "Is there evidence? Is it true?" is two question marks but one question. I don't think starting out with "my first question is" and then asking the same question twice qualifies as two questions.
Besides, if that phrase was legitimate, there should be two question posts, not one :)
@Purmou Huh. I don't see the suggestion. Maybe it's in a wait queue.
Libertarianism as I understand it (from reading lots and lots of Robert Heinlein Sci Fi) is the idea that laws should be crafted so that personal liberties are always acknowledged. So long as you don't hurt anyone else, whatever you do is OK. Drugs, Sex etc... are legally OK, but it's not advoc...
I LOVE THIS TOPIC!!
God is a God of Love. God is also a God of Hate. If you love you must also hate. If you love children then you will hate abortion. God is angry with those enemies of his that practice sin.
Hebrews 10:26-27
New International Version (NIV)
26 If we deliberately keep on sinnin...
Most of us probably have a lot of vague ideas about Heaven. But when I really start to think about it, I can't back most of my ideas with the Bible.
What do we actually know about Heaven?
The expression "hate the sin, love the sinner" gets thrown about in both Christian and non-Christian circles, but it does not seem to a bible verse? Is it a biblical concept?
Some say "that's the way that Jesus lived". Are there examples of Jesus conduct that demonstrate this one way or another?
I think this is a very Christian concept. God hates sin, and in fact he hates sinners.
However, we do not know who God has elected to save and so we should treat everyone with the love and respect that he has given to us.
Matt 22:37-40 (NIV)
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with ...
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