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8:00 PM
@DForck42 What types of things does the party need? If you need more blasting I'll second Destructive Wave. For healing I've heard Aura of Vitality is the best out of combat healing you can get. If you run into a lot of spellcasters and you don't have an abjuration wizard your Counterspell would be better than other spellcasters of your level.
@MadMAxJr What decks?
 
@MadMAxJr lol
 
@DForck42 I'd scrap cloud of daggers
 
Mirrodin era Leveller deck and MASSIVE ELVEN MANA GENERATOR deck.
 
@diego counter spell would actually be super useful. we have a sorc for blasting
 
Priestess of Titania was such a fun card.
 
8:01 PM
healing, I think we're good on for now
the biggest issue we have, honestly, is that we only have one melee fighter, the fighter
 
@DForck42 I feel that on principle, everybody who can get counterspell should get counterspell. Same with dispel magic. They are just spells that I can't imagine any combat focused mage ignoring
 
Bunch of mana generator elves and one who could convert a mana into a white or red. I could dump a white X heal or a red X damage on the table with tons of green to dump in.
 
@DForck42 destructive wave may be awesome then. When your melee is getting swamped just step up, hit it and step back.
 
Llanowar Elf. Llanowar Elf x 2. Giant growth, giant growth, rancor! Winning!
 
Rancor <3
 
8:04 PM
 
The plan B in that deck is the playset of Coat of Arms
 
@DForck42 You could trade CoD for Polymorph for a new frontline T-rex whenever your fighter needs backup
 
@DForck42 with your song of rest and inspiring leader, i wouldn't pick up aura of vitality
 
@DForck42 what class is this? Bard?
 
@diego or turn the enemy into a turtle
 
8:05 PM
@Ryan bard, level 9 now
I picked up hold monster for level 9
 
@NautArch That isn't as effective since when they run of of the polymorphed forms HP they revert and still have their previous HP
 
@diego I already have polymorph, and dm has houseruled dinosaurs don't exist in this game (cause...)
 
@DForck42 Oops, I missed that page
 
@DForck42 i'm not a fan of feign death, would switch that out next level if you can
 
@NautArch yeah
 
8:07 PM
@DForck42 same with confusion. i just don't like the randomness. it sounds better than i found it to be
@DForck42 wait, so waht did you pick for your level 6 secrets?
 
@NautArch burning hands, lightning arrow
lightning arrow I'm kinda meh on, burning hands I love
 
woof, so missed out on fireball/counterspell. okay - that's not a huge deal.
 
@NautArch yeah, I'm def gonna pick up counterspell this time around
 
@DForck42 i'm not sure I"d use a 10th level magical secret on it. you can get some crazy power out of those spells. like bigby/destructive wave/WallOfForce/
conjure volley, etc.
 
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8:12 PM
... Is it that time of year already?
 
@NautArch might see if my dm's ok with me swapping out lightning arrow with counter spell
 
@DForck42 good luck with that! technically not kosher, but either is bacon and it's delicious.
 
I never had to ponder if magic was kosher.
 
@mxyzplk aww, sad to see @waxeagle stepping down (he's not even pingable in here now)
@NautArch lol
 
Wax hasn't been here in months.
 
8:20 PM
@MadMAxJr sad day, but I know what it's like
 
So we're down to Seven and Mxy
 
i... kinda disappeared for a while myself
 
@NautArch turkey bacon can be Kosher
 
I vanish and reappear depending on the status of my gaming tables.
 
@Ryan yes, yes it can. And Dispel Magic is like turkey bacon to the Bacon of Counterspell. It's good, but not delicious.
 
8:22 PM
@NautArch Dispel magic is leaner, higher in protein, and part of a nutritious breakfast?
 
@Adam but not as tasty
 
My next evil baddie will have Dispel Kosher.
The material component is a shaker of bacon bits.
 
@DForck42 Disagreed. I prefer turkey bacon
 
Turkey bacon isn't half bad when cooked right. As long as it's cooked flat and doesn't shrivel up it's great when crisp.
 
@Adam I'm sorry that your opinion is wrong ;-)
 
8:24 PM
rip my feelings :'(
 
pours a 40 on the curb for @Adam's feelings
 
@Adam My god, man! You need to try something better than oscar meyer bacon.
 
Roll saving throw vs. social judgement.
3
 
It's not my fault that I want my meat to be more meat than fat!
 
@Adam lol
@NautArch we were talking about bacon this morning at work. a local place sells bacon for $9 a pound
 
8:27 PM
@Adam try Nueskes for some ridiculously good bacon. But I also like melty fat with my meat. Smoked brisket....drooooool.
 
@Adam Repent and join the joy of lard.
 
Still stuck on this idea of kosher magic.
If I fireball a cloven animal, do I then need to follow up with salt 15' burst?
Or is that only if I plan to harvest the meat?
 
@MadMAxJr None of the above. FIreball is not a kosher means of killing an animal.
 
Hmmm.
Maybe more of a wall of blades thing.
 
@MadMAxJr and I believe all "suggestion" spells must use guilt as the driver.
 
8:35 PM
IIRC, the animal must be 1) killed instantly and B) have all its blood removed.
 
"you should leave this fight. Your mother misses you."
 
.... Wait a minute, I think there's a class that can do that.
I seem to recall blood mages in 3.5 could rip all the blood out of something.
 
Although I think studies have indicated that the traditional kosher method does not kill instantly. Or even quickly.
 
@NautArch Found as a worn and creased letter on the villain's desk in a half-opened envelope underneath a tarnished amulet.
 
The Hebrew term shechita (anglicized: /ʃəxiːˈtɑː/; Hebrew: שחיטה‎; [ʃχiˈta]; also transliterated shehitah, shechitah, shehita) means the slaughtering of certain mammals and birds for food according to Jewish dietary laws (Deut. 12:21, Deut. 14:21, Num. 11:22). == Biblical source == The Torah (Deut. 12:21) states that sheep and cattle should be slaughtered “as I have instructed you” but nowhere in the Five books of Moses are any of the practices of shechita described. Instead, they have been handed down in Judaism's traditional Oral Torah, and codified in halakha. == Species == The animal must be...
 
8:38 PM
Cutting Words: "I'm very disappointed in you"
 
Cutting Words: "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed."
 
Is this Jewish or Catholic Guilt? Gotta be more precise
 
For the new paladin ceremony, coming of age becomes Bar/Bat Mitzvah and costs all of your current wealth.
 
Note to self: Modern setting villain who will only make undead minions from kosher preparations.
 
Paladins no longer quest from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday
 
8:42 PM
and that's enough of me learning about Kosher products and methods today.
 
@Ryan I don't smite on shabbos.
 
I appreciate the loot split party, but I can't handle gold today. It's a thing.
 
@NautArch Culting words: "I̞̳͔̪'͉̤́ͅM̴̷̱ͅ ͎̹̣̗͜ͅV̨̼͓̳͠E̲̜̪͍̭͕̼͎͠R̶̤̲̗͖͙͉̗͞Y̦̺͈͙̣̜͖ ̡̤̱̬̦̘̜͓̭́͟D̫̮̹̙̳̖͕̘͡I̖S̡̡̡̯̝̦̳̣̱͉Á͖P̪̳P̛͖͉Ó̝͍ͅI̸̭̦̙N̶҉̳̳̫̮̣̣̩̕Ţ̵͚̱̤͉͍̦̳́E̷̢͍‌​̜͍̖̪D̷̞͈̮͎͘ ̥̗̥̜̮̤̤̱͢I̛͏͔̪̞̻N͏͇͖̟̝ ̢̛͔̠Y҉̣̬̖͎͖̖͠Ớ̫͉̠͚͙Ù͔̥̠͇̱̻͔̻͉͘.̷̗̬̝͕̬͈͝"
 
Wow, you spelled it just like my mother does.
 
@doppelgreener omg
 
8:48 PM
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Aww, it chokes it.
 
@MadMAxJr how do you do that?
 
@doppelgreener Catting Word: "(meow)"
I think everything a cat meows can be interpreted as "I'm disappointed in you" or "get me my food, human".
WHY DO I HAVE 35 UPVOTES FOR THIS QUESTION?
10 was understandable if a bit excessive.
 
The wonders of HNQ :P
 
this ^^
@Yuuki It's the same reason I've got 70 upvotes for my answer on the ADHD question which, to be frank, is just a bunch of decent general-GM advice that pays homage to the thought of how it works/doesn't for an ADHD player.
Speaking of which, @SevenSidedDie do you think it's worth unlocking the ADHD question? It's off HNQ and answer-edits aren't likely to bump it at this point. I feel bad having it locked any longer than it'd have to be. (Feel that way for any post.)
@Ryan ugh... any list that has put 5e ranger at "tier 1" has lost me. They're a tier 1 NPC, to be sure, but it's hard to argue that they're doing any other class's signature "thing" better than that class.
 
9:07 PM
@DForck42 eeemo.net
Advanced Dungeons & Huge Dragons
 
Amusing homebrew magical items: "The magic rod of create magic rod of create magic rod. Has one charge and the item is destroyed when out of charges."
Scrolls of raise dead - these scrolls levitate a corpse 6 ft. off the ground permanently.
 
Amusing homebrew magical items: Absolute Immovable Rod. It's a fixed point in space. Your planet is not.
 
Scroll of Raze Dead - It just burns the corpse.
> They eventually started tying bags of gear to it and pulling it around like a hover cart. The party member who had died didn't appreciate it however and eventually became an angry wraith due to the defiling his corpse, but they decided that slaying the wraith as it re-coalesced every day was easier than giving up taking every last scrap of loot from every encounter.
 
@MadMAxJr oh my, easy way to kill something
shove the rod into something, then speak the command word. watch as said thing goes hurtling either into the ground or into space
 
We thought it was a nice way to not have to deal with the Tarrasque for a year.
We agreed that in the vaccum of space it would asphyxiate and freeze to death and then continuously regenerate to life and die again.
 
9:23 PM
Wouldn't the rod burst from the Tarrasque's stomach?
 
@Yuuki Catting work: "(bark)" (those who pass a Wisdom check of 15+ see the cunning deception)
 
@MadMAxJr *ever, if you're going off real world physics. the planet never goes back through the same space
 
Seeing as how the Tarrasque is a horrible, almost Dark Souls tier monster, I figure it could just swim in space, fall through re-entry, regenerate in its crater, then come for you again.
 
@DForck42 Yeah actually it's a little concerning, he resigned from another mod-ship and actually just disappeared from here, we've been pinging him for months but no answer
 
Eh, Tarrasque is beyond Dark Souls-tier. Dark Souls isn't hard because the monsters are strong, Dark Souls is hard because you are weak.
 
9:27 PM
Yeah, I had tried to ping Wax on his birthday, no response.
 
@Yuuki That seems like the same thing to me, just from a different point of view. Relativity and all that.
 
The difference between the Tarrasque and Artorias is that one is a world-breaker and the other can kill you really hard.
Well, both can kill you really hard, I guess.
 
@mxyzplk :(
 
Is it normal for Arqade answerers to not have any experience with the game in question and expect querents to give them screenshots of stuff they could easily see if they had the game?
 
I miss him, and @brian
 
9:33 PM
 
@BESW shrugs I don't go there, it's a bit of a mad house from my limited experience
 
@BESW Are you asking about identifying a game?
As in "I remember this game that I used to play, I remember being able to do this and it was about this, can you tell me the name?"
 
@BESW Screenshots are mandatory on 'Identify this game' questions. People who respond are expected to be able to assert facts, not opinions about the question. Flag for moderation if you see garbage content.
 
@MadMAxJr I once ran @Emrakul's rabbi PC on a vision quest through the sephirot in order to gain divine power in a Dresden Files game.
I'm asking about where to find a particular game's save files on OS X, and somebody pulled out a five-year-old forum post with a Windows file structure. When I said "the file structure for the package contents doesn't look like they," they wanted me to describe the file structure to them.
 
Got a link to your question?
 
9:38 PM
I've also got an answer-in-comment marauding around.
 
Well, I imagine it's not any different from asking a rules question on a particular system and getting an answer that's written from the perspective of a different rules system.
 
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Q: Where does GOG keep its Wiz8 saves?

BESWI'm used to porting Wiz8 saved files between Windows machines, and on OS X games I can usually dig up the saved game folders in ~/Library or the app's own Package Contents. But I've got a Good Old Games version of Wizardry 8 that I'm playing on OS X 1.11.6, and I can't find the saved game files a...

 
Oh. That one is you. Hmm.
Saw that in the feed earlier..
 
Common or not, it's not how answers are expected to be given, but there's always people who want to provide input despite either 1) not reading the question or B) not having the requisite knowledge.
That's not something that's Arqade/Gaming.SE specific, that's pretty much endemic to SE.
 
alright time to hurry up. I gotta make a Monk if I'm gonna do it. The group that plays tonight had a cancel so I can get in.
 
9:41 PM
I'm reminded of RPG.SE commenters asking for querents to quote entire swathes of the rules.
 
Yeah, that's just a bad answer. That screams, "I googled it, upvote me please."
In your question you clearly state you know how to view package contents and you didn't find it there.
So no, this is not representative of the typical gaming stack response. This is what happens on older titles though.
 
To be fair, I edited that in because apparently "on OS X games I can usually dig up the save-game folders in ~/Library or wherever they're hiding" wasn't enough.
I think it's not an older title problem; I think it's a GOG problem.
[pokes files further]
 
I can't help with that one. MacOS is French to me.
 
@BESW I think we're both referring to the general issue of the unhelpful answer and response not the specific problem you're having with this game.
 
....hah. I was right. [starts writing SAQ]
 
9:48 PM
We've had worse answers than that though. You should see what we go through on minecraft questions.
It's finally eased up, but we'd get 'My game broke, here is a log thing, fix my game.'
"According to this you have 300 mods" "Fix my game please"
We also get gold-rush style question seeding when new games come out.
 
> 7yo Daughter: You know what would be a funny name for Dungeons and Dragons?
Me: I don't know. What?
7yo Daughter: Beholders and Blankets. That wouldn't be so scary.
(Would that mean playing that game on a plane would be AirBnB?)
 
@Yuuki That's adorable.
 
Incredibly adorkable
 
Beholder bursts in, horrible magic ray eyes blasting everywhere. Little girl walks up, tosses blanket on it, Beholder falls asleep like birds in a cage under a blanket do.
 
Answered myself. GOG is tricksy.
 
9:59 PM
@MadMAxJr I like the idea of beholders not having object permanence.
5
 
It's right there in their name, after all.
 
Every attack is preceded by the creature announcing, "Voila!"
 
10:18 PM
@BESW That's some solid sleuthing!
But does the app-in-an-app contain another app?
 
No, but it contains six .exe files.
(including, for some reason, Internet Explorer.)
 
My favorite thing about my most recent installation of Windows is that it somehow came with Chrome pre-installed, reducing the number of times I have to run Explorer on my computer from 1 to 0.
 
10:38 PM
 
I guess Microsoft didn't like IE because they took the ring off it.
 
@Karelzarath it was a mercy slaying.
 
@doppelgreener heh
 
I really liked the new episode. I can't wait for more.
 
10:54 PM
hey there @DuckTapeAl @JuneShores and @Karelzarath
 
Hi hi.
 
Hey @Shalvenay. Long time no see.
 
@DuckTapeAl Hey, good to see you hanging out in chat again!
 
[wave]
 
I'm hoping to be on more. I've been in a job that I'm not very happy with for a while, and I've fallen off on hanging out online as much as I used to.
 
10:57 PM
Aw. [sadjobface]
 
But my last day is Friday, so I'm hoping that the new job doesn't leave me sad and exhausted every day. :D
 
Yey! [hopefuljobface]
 
Lol.
 
@DuckTapeAl Congratulations! (and I am now off to sleep off some major tiredness)
Best of luck, it's good to see you again
 
You too, @doppelgreener.
 
11:00 PM
@DuckTapeAl That sucks :(
@DuckTapeAl That hopefully doesn't suck!
 
@Karelzarath Do you think the attacks are just permanent startle-reflexes?
 
(came from NWN...but imagine the head-scratching this piece would cause in a campaign :P)
 
Reminds me of the time I played with a guy who played a Moogle Barbarian, who somehow used a Large reach weapon of some kind.
 
@DuckTapeAl Can I ask a stupid-seeming question, but it's sincere? How do you know you're unhappy in my job? (I ask because I had an unsolicited job offer come across my bow today, and it has me scrambling to evaluate things.) I feel like job-unhappiness is often one of those slow-slouch-toward-Bethlehem things that you only realize years after it's started....
 
He was a little 3-foot-tall fluffy white death machine.
 
11:10 PM
@DuckTapeAl hahahaha :D
 
(Well, that's a Freudian slip!)
I mean "your job," obviously. [nervous grin]
 
> The employer cannot hear the employee;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the cubicles
 
I get what you're asking, and I don't think it's a stupid question at all. It's a hard and deeply personal decision.
 
@nitsua60 For me, it was the realization that I no longer looked forward to going to work and that the new boss had little regard for my abilities or the project I was heading up.
Wearing a heart rate monitor and watching the steady increase of my resting heart rate also gives good clues to stress level.
 
Yeah, that's pretty much what it was for me too.
The breaking point for me was that there was a layoff, I wasn't laid off, and I felt more stressed after I got the news.
 
11:13 PM
Oof, that's not a good sign.
 
I figured out a job was bad for me when I started getting grey hair at the temples.
 
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The HR manager is not in to hear your complaint right now.
@DuckTapeAl Wow.
@BESW Hmm... so I shouldn't be a dad anymore?
=)
 
My general career goal is that I always want to be solving interesting problems. I work in game design/QA, so it's totally normal to have times of high stress that come and go, but at each high-stress point before, I felt invigorated to get my work done to make a quality product.
I never felt that drive at my current job.
 
@Karelzarath I had a time this winter where I had a part of my job I was looking forward to every day. Then it ended. And it's left me feeling like every day's a drag to get there and back....
@DuckTapeAl Interesting.
 
@nitsua60 Getting grey hair from being a dad is, I think, more acceptable than getting grey hair from laying out a book.
 
11:16 PM
I'm moving on mainly because the company I work for is making games that I'm not interested in playing, and it's hard to do my best work in that sort of environment.
 
@BESW It's a badge of honor, even.
 
@BESW It's certainly a more-widely shared experience =)
 
@nitsua60 If it helps, when it's really bad, you know.
 
@Miniman It's not really bad. There are actually lots of awesome things. And it's comfortable. Part of me thinks "that's an idiotic reason to stay!" while the other part says "yanno... contentment isn't exactly a bad target to shoot for."
 
I can't speak for your particular situation, because I know that moving jobs often is accepted and normal behaviour in games, but if my current job was "a drag", and I have a job offer for a place that would be more fulfilling to work, I'd take that offer.
Depending on your career goals, comfort is definitely not a bad thing to strive for.
 
11:19 PM
@DuckTapeAl It gets tricky, though, because it's a five-body problem in my life. That's a lot of dislocating people just for my possible increase in fulfillment.
 
@nitsua60 Well, if it helps, in 11 years of working that's a better situation than I've ever been in.
 
Depends a lot on why you have a job, I think.
 
Brb, gotta go pick up dinner.
 
afk a bit--one of those five bodies needs a bath =)
(more grey hairs on the way...)
 
@nitsua60 Finding a place you can settle in to is a great thing, especially when you have a family.
 
11:21 PM
(I saw the final proof for that book yesterday. I worked on it five years ago.)
 
@BESW O.O Good lord. What kind of book is it?
 
Trilingual combination coffee table picture book and social studies textbook.
 
blinks Interesting.
 
It's a fascinating project, it's just been cursed with the worst kind of development hell.
It's been through at least two editors since I worked with it, it tries to do too much at once, and it's dealing with some highly politicised topics.
Also some of the people who've been in charge of the project at various points have known nothing about its subject.
 
I can't imagine how a book that's been 5+ years in development is going to make a profit.
 
11:26 PM
Yeeeah, I'm glad I got my checks already.
It was working off education grants for a while, but I'm sure they're long gone now.
Part of the idea was that it could be sold to tourists as a coffee table picture book, and then again to local schools, Japanese schools, and mainland US schools, as a textbook.
Last I saw, the orthography had been changed again and didn't match the local schools' mandate anymore.
 
That's quite the market spread to straddle.
 
Yeeessss.
Hence being trilingual.
(Laying out a picture book with three languages saying the same thing on each page? Not easy.)
 
I can't imagine the attempt.
Very curious to see the end result, though.
 
it sounds like a nightmare honestly
 
[rummages through old drafts]
Sample page:
 
11:36 PM
That's got to chew up a ton of pages.
 
Yeeup.
 
@BESW I have actually seen something similar at the park I used to Volunteer at
same three languages in those books and all that
but they are only single copies tied to the stand they sit on
 
We've got some great pictures, though. Local artists contributed work for each chapter page (it's an alphabet book, with each chapter focusing on a Chamorro word starting with a different letter in the Chamorro alphabet and chosen for its relevance to the contemporary culture).
 
the books there are all just about environmental stuff, local legends, and WWII
 
Troggy's mother has a painting in the book, too.
 
11:40 PM
which one is it?
 
Heh. You may not know it; she painted it for me in about an hour to fill a gap we just couldn't get any art for.
 
ah ok
she has been painting a lot more recently, and actually sold a bunch of them at the last art show
 
@trogdor Ooh, grats to your mom!
 
We used a lot of existing art like Judy Flores' batiks (see above!) but for some reason nobody had existing art for odda'.
 
it's good because she likes to paint, and has not had time to while she was working
she seems a lot happier and less stressed out now
 
11:44 PM
Work/life balance can be a tricky, elusive thing.
 
she was not balancing at all
she was working herself to death in an office that took for granted that she would
 
@trogdor Speaking of unhappy jobs, @nitsua60.
 
huh?
 
oh
yeah, my idea of an unhappy job is exactly that thing
if you are working hard that is fine, if you are working toooo hard because no one else will do anything,..... it's no longer cool
I don't want to go into any particular detail on it, but it was a horrible situation overall
my dad mentioned that a big reason for it was that the boss just wasn't replacing people when they left,... leaving more work for everyone left over
strange way to run things if you ask me
 
11:54 PM
Saves them money in salary costs?
 
But @trogdor! Look at our P&L numbers! Our profitability goes up every time someone leaves!
So clearly, we need to make the job suck so much that more people leave.
 
and then have no one left who didn't literally die of overwork
sound strategy, never saw it that way before, thanks XD
 
As the old demotivational poster says: Sometimes the solution to morale problems is just to fire all the unhappy people.
 
making people do more and more work does not actually increase productivity in the long run
@Karelzarath as I understand it, it was a lot more people leaving than people being fired
 
Nope. Making people happy to do the work will increase productivity.
 
11:57 PM
Unfortunately, quite a few managers have a problem with that sort of long-term thinking.
 
@JuneShores yep, that is exactly my point XD
@DuckTapeAl yeah, go figure,....
 
@DuckTapeAl Most of them will be off to a new job in a year or two, so long term strategy isn't in their self-interest.
 

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