@doppelgreener I have one of those. Seems to roll OK (I haven't done any testing, like roll 1000 times and record the results). The little one inside kind of bounces & rattles about, so it gets randomised well enough.
In Adelaide, we've had a couple of days over 40 this week, but the usual dry. Today's going to be high 30s, but humid. I'm not looking forward to leaving the airconditioned office...
I in particular recall that the air hurt my face, and then my Grandmother tossed some know down the back of my shirt, because I guess the barbarians in the Mainland U.S do that kind of thing for fun :P
I was especially unappreciative at the time, of course
now it is obviously something I can laugh about, all the way to the "it doesn't snow here" bank
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@trogdor The first snow of the year is always exciting but then I just hate being cold and damp too much to appreciate it. I have family that like winter sports and snowmobiling, but I'm the one inside making the hot chocolate :)
my father stayed on this island partly because it never snows here
but there must have been other reasons because my parents apparently lived in Florida for a short while
though to be fair I have not often heard very many good things about Florida without hearing things that make me not want to visit there too badly
also to be fair, he has always been a much more adventurous and outgoing person than most of the military guys who hide themselves on the bases for their whole deployment
he has mentioned that when he first came here, there were numerous guys saying how bad the island was, nothing to do here and all that nonsense, but he suspects even then that they had just never bothered to actually like,..... explore it at all XD
I've lived in a couple of largeish country towns. People made the same complaints about them. There were some things you couldn't do, sure. But we mostly kept ourselves entertained. D&D and computer games are good for that.
I once met a guy who said he'd "been everywhere and done everything" already. I asked how he liked the view from Fort Soledad and it turned out he'd never been further south than Cocos Island.
I can understand if you feel like you can't easily find something to do, but saying that nothing exists to do is a misdiagnosis of the problem at best
personally, I have relied on other people a lot when looking for things to do while traveling
so I can sorta half understand the perspective of some people who are here but have not been here long enough to know what potential things there are to do
Have flagged this question asking for a post-notice suggesting Back It Up! Anyone else noticing a stream of poor answers come in, or am I just cranky because the Pats are down 28-9 in my alt-timeline?
@trogdor Just open a Sunday copy of the Pacific Daily News: every Wednesday there's the Chamorro Village open market and every Thursday is the Mangilao Donne' Festival; at least once a month there's free guided hikes and a free outdoor movie night; there's three major art galleries and concerts both classical and pop; and that's just the stuff that's always available which I can think off the top of my head!
Right now... [rummages] Pale San Vitores has a nightly "Year of Love" light park until the middle of next month. This Sunday the Guam Symphony is doing its Young Artists Awards. The Governor's Cup Ladies' Golf Tournament is next week. Next month there's a car racing weekend, a marathon, and a 100-year memorial ceremony for the Cormoran. Then in May there's the Mango Fair, the Micronesian Fair, the race to swim to Cocos, and a tennis tournament...
And of course there's the UOG theatre productions--I only do posters for the four proper "UOG presents" plays, but they've got at least twice as many again with other groups using the space throughout the year.
But anybody who thinks there's "nothing to do on Guam" probably doesn't think watching an all-PI production of Fences is worth doing.
"my guy is evil so obviously he is gonna kill the party now"
:'(
the especially sad thing is that the question poster doesn't seem to originally understand that he did something wrong there by deciding to kill an entire party of people, and that just being "able" to roll that incident back in game isn't enough to erase any emotional damage caused to real people from the action
@trogdor I'd submit that it probably isn't MGS - he's using MGS as an excuse, but if you read between the lines it's pretty obvious that he just did it because he wanted to.
@trogdor Well, not entirely. If he'd done it purely because he thought his character would've and "thatz teh gud roleplayz yas?", his not knowing what he did wrong would be slightly less bad.
but in his situation of being the new guy among work friends,........ this is in no way acceptable behavior, and his seeming lack of understanding that what he did was at least a little uncool is definitely mildly disturbing to me
@Miniman yeah, I mean, I don't want to pin him down as a horrible person for that, but I kinda read into him already having been interested in RPGs before
which might also have implied to me that he should have some inkling that not all behaviors such as that which he took is acceptable in every group,....
I mean, personally I wouldn't want to be engaging in my RPG hobby with my co-workers, either in general or my current set of them, not because I hate them but because I didn't originally choose them as friends, and if something happens outside the workplace, it would in fact be hard to ignore it in the workplace itself
I don't condemn the idea of having workplace friends you game with, but not understanding in any way that it is a risk is alien to me
and something is wrong with not discussing with your group how your character happens to be a murderhobo-party-killer, unless you are already established in a group where that is a pre established thing that no one blinks at
which in this question's case was,... most certainly not the case
How should GMs deal with players who turtle or roach?
By turtle I am referring to players who obviously wanted to play because they joined the game, but when they're actually at the table they keep their heads in their shells. They're too intimidated or shy to actually role play. They just sit q...
Basically you've all agreed to play DnD (or whatever it is you're playing), which is a game of high fantasy adventures, fight terrible monsters and get epic lewtz
Oh. I was going to say that quiet back-row characters can be ok in D&D in large groups, as sometimes people are just there for the fantasy aspect, not for the actual heroics. But Fate is different.
@Magician Incidentally, is there a way to search your site? When I thought the issue was turtling, I was looking for your article, but I couldn't find a way to search other than Google, and Google was failing me.
@UristMcDorf I do think the group's reaction was too strong, but I also have sympathy for the fact that as soon as they let this guy into a specific outside activity, he did something emotionally damaging
my response in a similar situation would be to ignore that guy too, at the very least as long as he continued not to show any inclination either to apologize or learn why I suddenly didn't want as much contact with him. if he did at least show that he want to know why he got the reaction he did, I would most likely at least attempt an explaination
@Magician Also, I'm probably being daft, but I still can't find the search bar...I've got the menu with tags, comments, and subscribe, but I'm still not finding search >.<
@trogdor Me too, but I think they should've realised he might not know that it's emotionally damaging. I personally wouldn't expect a player who's only ever played vidya to realise that chaotic randumb killing is not okay, for example. Especially considering how many associate sandbox with GTA and similar games.
Now that I'm reminded of it, here's "The Begun of Tigtone" for those who haven't watched it. It's a piece of mostly absurdist humour that happens to be done good (which is an extreme rarity with absurdist humour).
@Miniman I know the article you're thinking of and I can't find it anywhere either. I suspect it's one of the blogs that have died out over the past decade. I think it might have been Brand Robins, but I can only find his famous post about his turtling brother coming out of his shell.
And I can't remember what the third animal was. Turtle, roach, and … hm.
@JoelHarmon I'm sorry. I wanted to tell you relevant story from my DW session, but I don't have much time this days to share it here. I'll ping you when I'll be ready to deal with it.
@SevenSidedDie @BESW "For the game I used the setup stakes from the books about the shape-shifting cat being hunted by the brutal village warrior." this is great, reminds me of our Egypt game
Apparently we had a templates tag on these questions:
How many templates can be applied to a summoned creature(s)? (asked September 2016)
Where can I find extra templates for pathfinder? (asked September 2016)
Can a PC apply a template to a construct gained as a class feature? (asked January 20...
"I was invited to the group poker game for the first time, flipped the table, threw a drink in the boss's face, and peed on the rug on my way out. Now they're not talking to me at work. What're they doing wrong?"
Yea, something like that :D I play in an evil campaign, and we have had stuff like people describing how they flay and torture living people and stuff. I would never play something like that with my colleagues, though...
(And yes, I have run a successfull round with colleagues as the GM, Pathfinder at the time, and am about to start with a Edge of the empire Round on my new job, so I disagree with people saying it can never work)
It's also a case of the person having wrong expectations (perhaps influenced by video games such as GTA where you can go chaotic evil and it'll be fine; it's actually somewhat expected of you) and nobody bothering to explain the difference to him.
@Patta It's because of that comparison to video games, actually. They have completely different norms, but an unprepared person might not realise that and figure "oh, it's like a computer game, right?" and bring expectations an values from there.
I don't think it's the existing group's responsibility to outline the things that would never occur to them which a new member might think is alright, and why those actions aren't.
The new member should be the conservative one, checking the propriety of their ideas before expecting everyone else to keep them in-bounds.
But that should has nothing to do with RPGs, or gaming. It's the same should that applies to entering any unfamiliar social situation.
I don't blame the co-workers/gm, but they definitely missed the opportunity the moment the intent/action was announced. They should, at that point, have put on the brakes. "If you do that, we're probably all going to have to do this. And we don't want to do this, that's not really the game we want to play."
But it's quite likely that RPGs were explained as something like "you can do whatever you want, only your imagination is the limit". Plus, with that line of thinking you wouldn't quite know where to draw the line - it might require confirmation of every little thing just because it wasn't confirmed before and it might be a problem.
And in all honesty, if they let a complete newbie to RPGs have a "chaotic evil" character they should've at least considered the possibility of problems arising with that instead of "oh, he'll figure it out".
@UristMcDorf If this player had spent the session observing others' actions, acting in similar ways, and quietly checking with someone whenever they had the thought to do something they hadn't yet seen, in fifteen minutes they'd have had the orientation they needed.
@doppelgreener Yeah, it was calendar year I meant.
@Patta Probably not absolutely right... I did talk to a stranger in a bus queue in Oxford last week. When I told the headmaster's wife that she literally gasped. I may have scandalized all of England, all of the UK, all of the Commonwealth, for all I know =)
Is it time to put social questions, problem-player, problem-gm, etc., under the microscope for being off-topic? The answer is always, always, some variation on "Talk to them. It might get better. You might have to stop playing." Is there value in that for us as a community any more? Or has this reached the end of its tether like game-recs?
@UristMcDorf - yeah, but we've got a huge number of questions and answers. I wonder if it's time to start putting duplicate tags when these questions come in and referring them to existing answers. A random person can get value from asking, "What system to play Thundercats?" but we don't let them anymore because it's not right for us as a community.
@gomad I think there are probably a lot of dupe-candidates, but unlike straightforward rule-questions they're hard to find fast. If I see a question come in about a monk's reflexes, I know I can dupe-identify and hammer it in a minute or two. The thought of reading through four or five [tag:problem-*] questions to find the "right" dupe-target exhausts me....
@gomad But it's really similar, and that question even includes links to questions here.
@gomad If there are ones you see and think are duplicates, by all means flag/vote them as such. I think it'd be good. I just don't have the energy to go through many of them =)
I don't know that I'd go as far as ruling them OT.
Probably worth a meta listing a bunch that you think are duplicates and asking about the advisability of linking all to a canonical "talk to your GM, consider if the group's right for you" answer, and perhaps laying out your case for OT-ness?
@gomad I do not think it is off topic, I do think there's value, I don't think it's reached the end of its tether (game recommendations have no relationship to this), and I feel that's a very reductive view of the answers and expertise shared.
I do see problematic social questions getting a variety of experience. Yes the answers usually involve talking about it, or the possibility of leaving, but we don't ban character optimisation questions because "ugh, these always get someone recommending a class or feats or specific spells". There's an awful lot more going on well beyond the simple suggestion of talking about it or leaving or so on.
We share expertise on how to talk about it, what to talk about and with whom, if apologies or behaviour adjustments need to be made on anyone's part, share tools and methods and conversational frameworks available, etc. The Same Page Tool has become a staple of certain questions, but it's one of the very few social tools our hobby has, and is an effective remedy for resolving a very common class of problem.
(By "problematic social questions", I mean questions that involve social problems, not social questions that are problems -- and I chose my words poorly for saying that, whoops. I should've written questions about social problems.)
(Also, I say "at least six" because the sixth one didn't have any of those tags and didn't come up in my search, so I added relevant tags to it just before linking that. Maybe there's a seventh or eighth also not with those tags.)
It's one our community has at a usefully common rate, and each time one of these questions up we get some unhelpfully generic or inappropriate answers, but we do also get the people who are actually keyed into what's going on sharing something meaningful and appropriate in one of the few answers that will rise above the rest (or exist at all).
I'll bring the above to meta if it's raised there -- which would be reasonable if it is, since it's agreed chat doesn't supplant mainsite or meta for making policy decisions on RPG.SE.
I am a relatively new roleplayer (been doing it for almost 5 months only) and I have just left my roleplay with the main group I joined. I was roleplaying in Terraria, by the way.
Why did this happen?
Well, things got awkward. Real awkward. it was supposed to be a war / drama server, but instea...
Based on the following question, which happens to be about a roleplaying game taking place within the (non-roleplaying) videogame of Terraria.
How to deal with ERP frequency in a non-ERP setting?
Recapping the original question; the user has joined a special server for a video-game that has b...
@Baskakov_Dmitriy SevenSidedDie responded by pointing out: 'In practical terms though, the question may have other problems that would make it a poor candidate for reopening, so “no, it shouldn't be closed for that reason” may not be the only or even most important factor when considering reopening.' The question has multiple other issues unrelated to whether or not it occurred in a video game, including that the asker already resolved their own issue.
I think that I may have a very good solution for the problem the asker had, and it's not "Leave the community". Does the asker leaving make me never able to answer it, because I am not even allowed to ask it myself in order not to make it a duplicate?
@Baskakov_Dmitriy The question may be closed for a reason we now agree may not be relevant, but it does have issues that mean it should be closed for some reason. The user hasn't been seen in an entire year, so there's not really much point in reopening and answering their question - we won't be helping them and it's not a particularly great question to begin with to keep around for the long term for others (see: it has issues).
You may go ahead and produce a self-answered question, but as usual make sure it's a good one, since self-answered questions tend to face a bit more scrutiny than usual.
@Baskakov_Dmitriy This is part of why I'm saying "make it a good one". The original question has problems. If you ask a new question that doesn't have those problems naturally it won't be a complete duplicate and that won't be an issue.
I understand that in D&D 4e's default setting there are planes, and I know a bit about them: the material plane is where the people generally are, and there's a "feywild" where the Eladrin and other weird things are from. What are the others? How do they connect with each other?
This is a preser...
I created this because someone else originally asked that question. I posted an answer, then they changed their question into something else completely. I was very confused, so I deleted my answer, rewrote in my own words what was essentially the original form of their question and asked that, and saved my answer there.
But in your case there was effectively no original question. In our case there is one, it is just close (even though it shouldn't be, if you ask me). The only "reason" to keep it closed is that the asker left.
If someone googles the question now, he might think that 1) Community didn't find a solution yet 2) Such a question is illegal here per se
I am not arguing now, just trying to undestand that twist of the rules.
Speaking of, @BESW and @trogdor, at the very end of this old answer of mine in the Fan Theories section I used a couple of your group's headcanons without asking you first. Every time I come back across those I think "I should've asked first." I'd like to address that now and resolve that for myself -- Are you okay with me using those? Should I remove either, shape them up somehow, credit someone?
@Baskakov_Dmitriy There is plenty of reason to keep it closed beyond that the asker left. The comments on that question go into numerous issues which are not resolved at all.
The asker of Can you take a short rest while unconscious? decided that account deletion was their preferred future on the site, leaving behind a question that's a bit of a mess. (There is also the detail that, very likely, they were not supposed to be using the site while their real account was s...
In it, we are discussing a question (now deleted) that someone asked. It had multiple concerning issues and was risking closure, and then the asker abandoned it, and it was not a very good instance of a question about short rests anyway. And then also, the user turned out to be a troll who'd been banned recently on another account.
We discussed what we should do with it, and decided we should either close it or delete it and let someone else ask about the issue properly in the future. (Settling on deletion over merely leaving it closed.)
Ultimately: we've got a low-quality question covering an issue. It is closed. It is closed for a reason reflecting one of the perceived issues and remains closed because of other issues. (Notably, only 2 of the 5 close votes may have been because it was about video games! But close reasons don't reflect that. In fact it's possible for close reasons to reflect only 1 of the 5 votes, if everyone voted something different.)
It is not prohibiting future questions on that topic and is not really a precedent for anything. Future questions that handle the topic better aren't going to be duplicates of it because they'll necessarily be quite different if they handle the topic well at all.
Note that some of the thinking in the "delete" vein was "if it's a real problem, someone else will have it and the question will reappear naturally, and it'll get an answer." So in that vein I'd ask Dmitriy: is the ERP problem one you have, or have faced, or have witnessed, such that you'd genuinely ask-and-answer?
My usual thinking is if I've solution in search of a problem, don't ask-and-answer. If I've got a solution because I've faced a particular problem, go ahead and ask-and-answer.
@doppelgreener I remembered that exact Meta post and was going to ask to delete that old question after making my own one, because it will be totally of no use, and only misleading.
@nitsua60 I am (or was, I am on a huge break) into sandbox game RP since September 2013, and trust me, I have seen a lot of problems there, some were ERP-related. Of course, I learned the solutions for those problems, and I want to share them. Clearly, there are people unfamiliar with them.
@Baskakov_Dmitriy Then it seems like the proper course of action would be to ask your own question (similar but different to the closed one), and potentially answer it yourself.
@CTWind I flagged that one as rude/abusive. Per the flag reason, "a reasonable person would find this content inappropriate for respectful discourse" -- I'm a reasonable person and I imagine I and multiple other people here who actually understand the situation would find that content inappropriate.
I was taking a second look at that ERP question that @Baskakov_Dmitriy linked. While the situation was incredibly unfortunate (and I really want to help the OP of that question feeling better), I have to agree that in the end it wasn't really a nice question. I would love to chime in in a better formulated question, however.
How does one use styles of address about oneself? Or is the assumption that if you have a title with a style, you'll have someone around introducing you with style?
What if you don't? What comes after “Doctor Livingstone, I presume?”?
So a slightly casual way would be “I am Jonathan of the Beltcutters, Emissary of Her Imperial Majesty to the Barranoi. That is ‘your honorable eminency’, by the way”.
I have founded a roleplaying community that plays on a sandbox video game server. However, some player was forced into erotic role play (commonly abbreviated as ERP). That was extremely disturbing for her, she even left the community because of that, and I don’t want that to happen in the future....
>Toby Ziegler: Can I call you John? Brit. Ambassador Lord John Marbury: I am John, Lord Marbury, Earl of Croy, Marquess of Needham and Dolby, Baronet of Brycey, England's ambassador to the United States, and a terrorist is a terrorist even if he wears a green necktie and sings "Danny Boy". Yes, you can call me John.
@nitsua60 Hey there! Thanks for asking! Things got a 180º turn for the better recently. I can say I'm really fine, thanks everything! And you? Everything going well?
How to deal with unwanted erotic roleplay in a sandbox video game? has come with the creation of the tag videogame-role-playing. Based on Are questions about roleplaying within a video game context on topic? roleplaying situations that occur in video games are not inherently off topic.
However, ...
@SevenSidedDie The one person on here who's a more prolific editor than me (you) just thanked me for improving their post with an edit. I feel... complete, somehow.
I remember when that was a problem in Space Station 13
Probably still is
A lot of the servers ban it outright (and given the heavy admin supervision inherent to the servers in general it's easy to enforce), some don't. Not a lot of them make the distinction between wanted/unwanted ERP though, IIRC.
And yet people play them anyway.
Enough for Lifeweb to get actual funding through donations.
Yes! Kids are good, it's been a (very) busy two weeks at work but that's calming down, and somebody else plows my driveway =) I'm glad to hear RL-things are working out--last we chatted I know things were getting... real.
@BlackVegetable You could flag it for deletion. If you explain it's yours but you're past the deletion timeout I can't imagine a mod not respecting your desire to burn it.
I did that for my two explicitly graphic posts. Not all of them, because the popup asks me to only mention serious issues so I guess that's a strain or something?
We'd get all confused deciding whether a question saying "Why do I get a critical miss when I roleplay a character inside of an infinite dice roll?" which would otherwise mean "Why do I get a segfault when I call a function inside of an infinite loop?"
i should seriously learn D&D... my current girlfriend has a character and is in a campaign, but I know almost nothing about D&D except the tiny tidbits i've picked up from here when questions are HNQ.