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@doppelgreener Hi!

Very important questions have been asked about owlbears: rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/71921/do-owlbears-lay-eggs

Very important indeed, especially as it makes me imagine baby owlbears, and that is a thought full of d'awww.

Magician

There was a kickstarter for baby monster manual, a while back.

@Magician I am overcome with adoration and horror. I want to pet them and cuddle them, yet suspect their instincts will probably see me not survive the encounter.

7:37 AM

@Magician IT HAS AN APPLE. [bounces]

@Pixie I thought that was a pumpkin.

@doppelgreener The stem looks awfully small for a pumpkin, but it's possible!

That is true...

Still, it's a very big apple.

... perhaps it's an appumpkin. Hybrid animals prefer hybrid produce.

@Pixie Appumpkin: a wizard also did it.

Pumpkapple?

7:43 AM

Appkin, pumple.

I like pumple.

Created after no one could settle on whether the pie should be apple or pumpkin.

... I suddenly want to see what pumpkin pie (like, the properly sweet dessert kind) would taste like if apple was also in the mixture.

Probably pretty good, if you like pumpkin pie (I don't).

I imagine it would sweeten it further.

I do!

Probably. That means some of the sugar could be left out of the recipe.

7:50 AM

A pumpkin roll, on the other hand... [reach]

Once, before the internet existed and before every recipe in the world was easily accessible in minutes, a relative of ours had heard about pumpkin pie and decided to make some for dessert. Many fruits and vegetables sweeten after cooking, so they figured pumpkin pie was mostly just pastry and pumpkin. Did not work out to meet expectations in practice.

O-oh noooo.

wow

and I love pumpkin pie

I would hate to see one done like that

I like pumpkin in most things, but pie is the exception for some reason.

to be fair I don't know how to make it,.. but even I know that isn't right

7:55 AM

Ah, eggs remind me, anyone play Sylestia? Unlikely, but I have a bunch of rather nice hatchlings I don't need. xD

I have no idea what that is XD

@trogdor it involves a very large number of ingredients, including cream and lots of herbs and egg and sometimes even custard.

@doppelgreener oh no wonder

custard, I love that

that explains why I like pumpkin pie so much, and some more than others

not that pumpkin itself isn't great

well, maybe not like,... raw pumpkin by itself

@trogdor A virtual pet site where you can breed the pets for different combinations of colors and traits. Link.

As one can imagine it is problematic to leave all those things out.

7:58 AM

yeah

Yeees. xD

@Pixie ah neat

I don't need that kind of time sink in my life, but cool non the less XD

And yeah there's a lot of variety of ways to make it. Different spices added or removed, a whole lot of ingredients to vary in proportions...

@trogdor Yeah, I've gotten sucked back in in the last few days, and I just got into Flight Rising too. xD ... that one may be more your speed.

If you like cooking even a little I highly recommend making it sometime! It will give you a new appreciation of your beloved treat. :)

8:00 AM

@doppelgreener ok then

@Pixie that http is missing a : after it

I know someone who might like,.. help me learn how to make it

I am sure she knows how to make it because she is the cooking master

@doppelgreener Fixed. P:

@Pixie oh good lord,.... it is all dragons

why do you do dis

show me not this thing XD

I keep meaning to make a pumpkin roll. I've never done a rollcake before so it will be lopsided and silly but surely delicous.

@trogdor Well, on the bright side (?), registration isn't open right now I don't think. xD

8:02 AM

lol

ah, I believe you are correct

though to be fair, I am currently spending much of my free time playing SC2 co-op mode

They only open it every once in a while. I'd been trying to get in for well over a year 'cause I kept missing them.

Yeah, these things are definitely time sinks.

grumbles about game dev companies who are cheapskates

sooo little time in the day

@Pixie Two of my sisters are majorly addicted to that - it's worse than cocaine. (May or may not be a huge exaggeration.)

I just started, but yeah... I can definitely see why. xD I spent forever today just combing the market for dragons who'd work well with the ones I got at the beginning.

8:13 AM

@Trogdor Co-Op for the main single player missions?

@Tashio the very specifically co-op mode

I think at least some of them are based on the campaign missions, if not all

also, part of the fun, at least for me, is how you play a commander and get extra stuff from doing so

ah awesome

I still need to grab the latest expansion, just not had the time or funds for it.

mm

you can play this mode for free

oh cool

as long as you are ok with missing half the comanders

which I am

8:21 AM

ah

Yea that, or I need to go butter up a friend of my wifes who's one of the lead Q/A's at Bliz

lol

I don't know if you need the newest expansion to get the other guys or not, it doesn't matter much to me

Yea I have the original + swarm

9:24 AM

It's good practice to edit out traces of an edit (such as strikethrough and the words "edit: as mentioned in a comment"), right?

Or at least, not poor form?

Derpy

9:48 AM

@GuidingLight I don't know what this specific site culture is, but I would consider if there is any need to keep the "history" in the question. I mean: if an answer is still accounting the original edited out content, I would leave it there, to make it clear that the answer made those points because the question was changed.

It's an edit to an answer, because the publisher offered official word on the case described in the question.

Wibbs

I'm on the fence on that particular edit

@GuidingLight I'd leave a comment to the answerer (they're quite active on the site), making it clear you're happy if they roll back your edit if they don't like it

10:16 AM

posted

10:53 AM

@GuidingLight Normally, you should remove traces of edits, because the site tracks versions. In that particular case, if the Word of God invalidates something reasonably assumed otherwise, it might be good to keep both things around.

But would it not have its own place as a separate answer entirely?

Maybe. But that would leave the deduced answer without any trace that WoG says it is wrong, which is not the truth the answerer would want to have reflected.

Q: Don't signal your edits in text

11:08 AM

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To amplify the bullet from here: Stop using the "Edit:" syntax of forums. We have explicit revision histories on everything, so everything should read as if the best version was the first version. if you see Edit: X hanging around, edit it out to make the content flow more smoothly. Specifi...

All answers should look "final". There should be no sign of editing having taken place. This is not always practical and achievable but it is the ideal.

Derpy

11:34 AM

Another solution, if the question has indeed gone ninja... is to edit back the question.

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A: What if user remove question text after getting answer of the question

I can suggest the behavior I used in the past for such cases: comment and make the asker notice that the question has gone ninja (ninja question-> a question that keeps changing content after any attempt to answer the current version. Much common when the question is "do my homework" and the as...

(also related is the dupe question, but it doesn't consider the ninja case, just the vandalism one)

also related

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Q: Editing a question and asking a completely different question

I am not sure if the title is correct but here is the situation. PHP form variables, errors! A question was asked, I answered it, then the OP changed the question without accepting my answer (which was valid for the original question) . What is the proper etiquette to handle such a situation ?

discussion questions edits asking-questions title

In those cases, I would at least ensure that the question is returned to the original state before removing "edits" signals from the answers. Last thing we want is someone thinking that the answer is wrong while it just reflects the old question before the ninja trick.

BESW

This is something you should probably take to meta.

Joshua Aslan Smith

3:31 PM

so many low qual questions from over the weekend

that feeling though when you cast the 5th VTC

3:51 PM

On which stack to I ask how to quickly convert a badly structured two-column pdf into something ebook/html/markup-like?

Joshua Aslan Smith

super user probably

Sounds good, yes.

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any sort of office-y kind of application I ask there

8:58 PM

@SevenSidedDie when you've got a minute, I've got a Microscope question--mind stopping by?

@nitsua60 Good timing, I just sat down.

I don't have it but am interested

read your writeup on d7, which was very nice and sounds right up my alley

but I can only find one other member of the group who wants to try it

is it playable by 2?

it sounds like you're restricted to characters in scene = players -1?

@nitsua60 It's not really suited for two. It can be done — it's technically playable — but some of its design relies on the “chaos” injected by greater than two people. The experience won't reflect the actual game very well.

@nitsua60 Scenes have characters = players. Can be fewer (if you play “time” or something like that), but that's unusual.

If you can, I'd try to round up one more player. We have a question around here somewhere about how to sell a one-shot of a game like Microscope...

ok, thanks. that's what I suspected

bribes may be in order

Bribes may help. :) But in my experience, Microscope is a relatively low-barrier game among non-traditional games.

And if you're only suggesting a one-evening thing, that tends to be an easier sell than a longer-form game.

(But be prepared for players to go mad with power, and accept that it's normal for first-time Microscope games to be a bit wacky. ;)

9:25 PM

@SevenSidedDie thanks for the links--we'll re-evaluate our strategy and try a new marketing campaign =)

@nitsua60 I've used Microscope as a backup game before. Our group is 5+GM, so when we're missing two players (below quorum) we have a perfect 4-person Microscope group.

9:54 PM

@SevenSidedDie Incidentally, am I being crazily overzealous by objecting to links to this question?

Yuuki

Yes. No. I don't know.

... there are way too many Joel Osteen books in this waiting room.

@Miniman I've rolled my eyes at links to that question myself. It's a bad question, and linking to it as backup/evidence/whatever just degrades the quality of an answer, in my view. But people can link to it if they want, I guess.

@SevenSidedDie Ok. Sounds like I'll continue to downvote answers with links to it but won't try to push things any further than that. Thanks!

@Miniman A possible fate for that question is also deletion. (Closed questions, in theory, are destined for deletion eventually. It's just not actually done much.) If its existence is a problem for the site, deleting it might be warranted. That would be an issue for meta, if one wanted to pursue it.

Yuuki

I'm definitely missing some context here, but why is that a bad question?

It seems fairly straightforward, asking about a specific mechanic.

Q: Is our interpretation of "too broad" too narrow?

10:02 PM

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Background As suggested by @doppelgreener I am posing this question here in response to the closure of How does surprise work in D&D 5e? Please accept and remember that I do not believe and I do not wish to infer that the people I mention who hold different opinions from me are in any way actin...

discussion

@SevenSidedDie I've thought about bringing it up in meta before, but I'm definitely not able to be objective about it, so I'll leave it alone.

Yuuki

Ah, so the problem is while it is asking about specific mechanic, it's doing so in general terms?

@Yuuki Yeah. It'd make a great blog post, but it's not specific enough for an SE question.

(Disclaimer: This is just my opinion and I'm definitely not objective here.)

@Miniman I understand! In practice though it will probably fade away. In practice, only one person is linking to it anyway…

@Yuuki It was a self-answered question, asked so vaguely as to be unanswerable by anyone else. When self-answering, questions need to be as clear and focused as normal questions do. When they're not, they just turn into personal blog posts and don't work well with the voting system.

10:48 PM

anyone have an idea why the accepted answer to this question appears third among the answers? It was my understanding that accepted answers would list at the top. I'd understand if the 2x outscorer were listed above, but why the +1 outscorer?

@nitsua60 If the OP accepts their own answer, the accept doesn't automatically make their answer appear first.

ahh, makes sense.

thanks

For reference, this.