The Water Cooler

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Dec 19, 2017 17:53
from developer all the way up to President
Dec 19, 2017 17:53
I mean... I have delivered constructive criticism to someone with every different title in our company
Dec 19, 2017 17:49
And venting is how you end up looking like an ass.
Dec 19, 2017 17:49
I can listen to someone vent and turn that into constructive criticism, yes... but it's not delivering professional constructive criticism. It's just complaining about something you're mad about with no purpose other than getting it off your chest and making yourself feel better.
Dec 19, 2017 17:48
Venting implies a different intent from the person delivering the "feedback"
Dec 19, 2017 17:46
venting isn't providing feedback.
Dec 19, 2017 17:45
it would've been fine.
Dec 19, 2017 17:45
so...
Dec 19, 2017 17:45
People who can't take constructive criticism don't get to be "one of the top people" in this company.
Dec 19, 2017 17:44
1) do provide feedback
2) don't provide misleadingly positive feedback in the exit interview
Dec 19, 2017 17:44
so again, as I've been saying
Dec 19, 2017 17:42
the exit interview isn't the time or place to vent.
Dec 19, 2017 17:42
venting isn't the same as providing feedback
Dec 19, 2017 17:38
there was no drama..
Dec 19, 2017 17:38
the last exit interview I did, the person leaving and I discussed very legitimate problems with one of our training programs
Dec 19, 2017 17:37
there is a professional way to give feedback... and to presume there isn't might be your problem with giving feedback in exit interviews.
Dec 19, 2017 17:37
giving feedback != leaving drama in your wake
Dec 19, 2017 17:36
I am not talking about a specific personal problem I am having.
Dec 19, 2017 17:35
I... have one of (if not THE) the best retention rates in my company.
Dec 19, 2017 17:35
The people I have given exit interviews for, I essentially always know ahead of time why they are leaving...
Dec 19, 2017 17:33
Maybe it's just my personality, but if I ever worked somewhere where I felt my feedback was unwanted or was going to result in negative consequences for myself, then I'd just find somewhere else to work.
Dec 19, 2017 17:32
It's possible. I'm unfortunately not in a position to look at all the exit interviews. And really that's the only useful way to use this sort of stuff, by looking at it in bulk.
Dec 19, 2017 17:29
My primary point is
a) give feedback at all opportunities
b) don't give misleadingly positive feedback in the exit interview
Dec 19, 2017 17:29
please let me repeat
Dec 19, 2017 17:29
Again
Dec 19, 2017 17:25
Will work for a year, rank 10/10 on any polling, never have any complaints, leave, and we find out the whole time they were unhappy with something that we couldn't fix because they never told us.
Dec 19, 2017 17:24
Correct, but regardless of the culture, you still get people who won't give any honest feedback.
Dec 19, 2017 17:23
people who come in with that preconception, based on past experiences... and hard to break them of that mindset
Dec 19, 2017 17:23
The problem is... even in collaborative companies, there are still people who work there with a mindset that they can't give their feedback because they will be retaliated against based on their feedback
Dec 19, 2017 17:20
versus a smaller business that actually desperately craves and values honest critical feedback on where they have room for improvement.
Dec 19, 2017 17:19
There's a difference between a company like Walmart doing exit interviews because that's what their HR department has learned is the industry standard and then just dump those exit interviews in a filing cabinet and never look at them again after than
Dec 19, 2017 17:17
Like, what you guys are describing is way different from my experiences.
Dec 19, 2017 17:16
Guess you guys need to quit working at shitty companies.
Dec 19, 2017 17:15
Dunno. Depends on the company and some circumstances. There's a good chance you're still on their health insurance plan.
Dec 19, 2017 17:13
And providing misleadingly positive feedback in the exit interview can actively work against other feedback received about something and prevent action from being taken.
Dec 19, 2017 17:12
Again... I don't know why you're so stuck on the exit interview. My emphasis is on feedback in general, where the exit interview is one of many opportunities to provide that.
Dec 19, 2017 17:12
5 mins ago, by nhgrif
I have seen a "manager" reassigned from one project to a different one based on feedback from employees bother through quarterly surveys and exit interviews.
Dec 19, 2017 17:11
I don't know how it works at other companies.
Dec 19, 2017 17:11
As the exit interviewer... I will have heard any feedback you've given...
Dec 19, 2017 17:11
Like, it's not complicated.
Dec 19, 2017 17:11
I don't know what your critiques are of whatever you're dealing with.
Dec 19, 2017 17:10
Correct. You don't work with me.
Dec 19, 2017 17:10
The importance is not giving the feedback in the exit interview itself, but giving it at all.
Dec 19, 2017 17:10
How? I don't know what feedback you've given up to that point.
Dec 19, 2017 17:09
But you guys are stuck on exit interviews... I'm emphasizing general honest feedback (where the exit interview is just one opportunity to provide that). And cautioning that if you don't want to give criticism, at least don't give misleadingly positive responses.
Dec 19, 2017 17:08
And again, @TheSnarkKnight, I've repeated numerous times... people aren't honest in exit interviews OR other requests for feedback. If you've given the feedback already and have nothing NEW to say in the exit interview, that's a bit different scenario.
Dec 19, 2017 17:08
Guess it depends on the project... but if you had nothing but good things to say about our company and were leaving, I think (depending on circumstances), we may be less likely to hire you.
Dec 19, 2017 17:07
I have seen a "manager" reassigned from one project to a different one based on feedback from employees bother through quarterly surveys and exit interviews.
Dec 19, 2017 17:06
Does that have to be the response to a single employee's disgruntled feedback in an exit interview?
Dec 19, 2017 17:04
where potentially, a terrible manager is getting a pat on the back and encouraged to keep up his or her terrible behavior at the expense of your former coworkers