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Thanks for the reply.

@derobert Ah :) That's what I thought, I could maybe use debian in a VM and I would install an older gcc there.

I'm really sorry to poke you guys but could you please take a look at this Q please :) Purty please

Anyway, I got concrete math on my iPad now. Lets see how that goes. Couldn't get shut-eye for hours over this and now it's 3am! I'm off to bed. Thanks @Boni @skillpatrol and everyone else who got involved in my hairy conversation I appreciate it :D

@Boni can be be more detailed, implement what exactly?

Just haven't practised enough of the stuff to solve problems quickly.

@skillpatrol that makes sense. Under the chapter sums I see a "Finite and In􏰌finite Calculus" sub heading, I don't know all too much calculus but I do know what a limit, derivative and Integral is.

True. Yep. I've got a kindle version :D

It is on my endless reading list.

@skillpatrol that one I've looked at and it looks scary.

Or perhaps a kindle version.

There's a hard cover version that costs like $100 ! wow. But given that I've tried so many options I might actually buy it.

@skillpatrol ah. Thanks. Yep. I've heard of this one.

Because I have many programmers who say that math is not a requirement, but in my case, I do want to understand the math under the programming.

But I'm hoping it's not a waste of time.

@Boni so I've started studying math on khanacademy.org and it's been slow :(

@Boni yep, Yes, I could perhaps look at quick sort and be able to write in my primary coding language. But it's mostly when I get to the algorithm books like Knuth or Skiena that it's plain gibberish to me.

Ah! Thanks

@skillpatrol @skillpatrol puzzles.stackexchange.com ??

Hmm. I've had interviews from Japan, Netherlands, Germany and they've asked a lot of algorithmic problems that require fast thinking.

So is my assumption correct that if I study math (discrete and calculus) I should understand these algorithm books better and therefore have a better grasp and program harder problems better.

And when I read the algorithm books like the one I mentioned earlier, it's got tons of discrete math that I don't know yet.

No no, I don't want to avoid math in any way. I want the better jobs out there. Some very high paying, but I don't get through the interview when it comes to the puzzle problems like on project Euler or code jam.

@Agawa001 I need to work on my SQL but yes I have some DB experience. MS SQL.

@Agawa001 Over the years I've gotten bored of programming business programs.

@Agawa001 @Lucas I don't mean math came from programming, I certainly understand how math is the underpinning of everything...

To be specific, I got this book :

what do you mean?

I see. @Agawa001 I wish that were the case for me. It's the other way around for me. Programming is pushing me into math.

Sometimes it's based on advanced high school math, but sometimes just based on a well known algorithm.

However, there are a number of challenging interviews I'd like to get by better where they ask a lot of algorithmic problems.

@Huy Maybe we're alike, I've been programming for years and get paid a nice sum for doing a data collection application. No math involved.

@Agawa001 I mean, Does learning math => (number, theory, geometry, statistics, calculus, linear algebra etc) help you with programming problems, especially the puzzling kind, like google code jam ?

I would think so but I would want a confirmation.

So for learning I can take my time, but I do need to get a better job sooner than later, I'm highly paid from where I live but I need the money. When I've tried for jobs with major companies many times I've got stuck at programming puzzles and that are quite mathy I'm wondering if anyone knows what I'm talking about? They're just puzzling and hard programs, say like google code jam Will studying math make me better at this?

I don't want this to sound like the typical question asked. I'm a programmer. I'm quite interested in math but I'm not very good at it. I'm slowly working my way through Khan Academy's Algebra and Trig and maybe break through the calculus barrier. My math pursuit is two fold, pure learning and getting better Programming jobs.

thanks :)

:22980623 that's a nice way to put it.

@skillpatrol I would love to do that.

@skillpatrol this I have begun. I've practiced plenty algebra at khanacademy.org and I continue to do so... but you're saying I have hope without a tutor ?

@Huy I can't privately at 25 do a high school qualification in my country. I have to attend a school. Which won't accept me because I have a "gap" or years off after 10th grade. And no one cares that I worked or anything.... A levels is the only choice..

@Huy if they didn't they probably took local equivalent qualifications. Which is another story.

@Huy the US is out for me, getting a visa for anything, even tourism is upto a flip of a coin (going from the country I'm at)

@Huy Top Universities in the UK only take A Levels. Our standard minimum A-level offer is A* AA - A*AAA with an A* in Maths from imperial.ac.uk/study/ug/courses/computing-department/…

The extremely high ranking univ. have CS degrees that are completely math based. So they require math. They prefer your you if you have Math, Further Math in your subject list.

@Boni The top universities do.

But what even you're saying is "Out with the tutor"