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Forever Mozart
Dec 20, 2018 23:27
so that's been my day so far
Forever Mozart
Dec 20, 2018 23:26
math is hard
Forever Mozart
Dec 20, 2018 23:26
misery
Forever Mozart
Dec 20, 2018 23:25
no proof
Forever Mozart
Dec 20, 2018 23:25
and came up empty
Forever Mozart
Dec 20, 2018 23:25
down the rabbit hole
Forever Mozart
Dec 20, 2018 23:25
today I went deep
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Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 05:12
You're welcome; thanks for your feedback also.
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 05:09
Then I proved the theorem :)
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 05:09
But my definition of countable will be: There is an injection $X\to N$.
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 05:08
yeah
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 05:08
I guess it is
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 05:07
are you saying choice is required?
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 05:06
So that seems automatic.
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 05:06
But we know $X$ is infinite.
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 05:03
I must show there is an injection from $N$ to $X$?
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 05:02
So to prove uncountable, I must show more?
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 05:02
Yes, I may do that.
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:57
And could I possibly strengthen my argument?
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:57
So what is the difference between uncountable and non-countable?
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:53
That has the finite intersection property if each clopen set meets the complement of $U\cup V$
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:52
Yes
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:51
and convince the reader that choice is not used.
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:51
in order to explain all the details along the way
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:51
I mean, technically this all makes for a 3 page paper and not a MO answer
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:49
And choice is not needed for this!
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:49
yes, but closed subsets of compact spaces are compact
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:48
of compactness
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:48
that's an alternative definition
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:47
the intersection of a collection of compact sets with FIP is nonempty
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:47
because if every clopen set meets $X\setminus (U\cup V)$, then the intersection of all does.
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:46
All these need is normality and "finite intersection property" compactness.
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:45
So this contradicts connectedness of $X$.
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:44
Now, if the quasi-component misses the boundary, then by compactness a clopen set misses the boundary, and we get a proper clopen subset of $X$.
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:44
so contradiction
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:43
But this clopen set intersected with $U$ shows the quasi-component is smaller than it really is
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:43
And containing this quasi-component
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:42
And so by compactness, there must exist a clopen set contained in $U\cup V$
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:42
Notice that clopen sets are closed under finite intersections
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:41
By normality, we can put these into disjoint open sets $U$ and $V$
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:41
Otherwise it would be the union of two disjoint closed sets $A$ and $B$
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:41
Now, in a compact Hausdorff space each quasi-component is connected.
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:40
The quasi-component of a point is the intersection of all clopen sets containing the point.
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:40
I can explain quickly
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:31
ok
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:30
ah let me fix that
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:29
let me edit
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:29
$U\in \tau$ where $\tau$ is the topology
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:28
No because U is not fixed
Forever Mozart
Dec 19, 2018 04:22
what does uncountable mean ?