AyamGorengPedes

Here's the thing (I think we can agree that the invasion of Ukraine is a tragedy, this is not the issue I'm debating). Whenever I see debates about this topic, it is always very hypocritical and full of propaganda on both sides (don't think only Russia uses propaganda). Surely you realize simply deflecting with the whataboutism card hurts your own argument? I think plenty of people would accept that the US' actions have some (depends on who you are talking with) merit, but to fully justify it as righteous (or side-stepping the issue with the whataboutism card) is just too much

May I remind you all that for some people, just getting a chance to study in Moscow/ Petersburg is life changing. I do know people that planned their life around it, forced themselves to learn Russian and English while not having enough to eat. That there is a war with Ukraine is a very, very distressing situation, but why should their lives be ruined too?

@Acccumulation maybe not Jingoism, but it is hypocritical to call the average Russian not being involved in their country's government while actively starting a man-hunt to every single Russian in sight