D. Lambert

Or, aimed North of the waist. I think any technique that works for skin & body tone, contrast, etc., would work fine for both nudes & non-nudes.

So, first post ever, and he skids sideways right past "artistic" on his way to naming body parts. Seems fairly troll-like.

@MichaelNielsen Been here a while... haven't been to chat for a long time. I thought I'd pop over here, though, as I was pretty sure that question would stir up some talk.

Hey - who's going to be the first to ask him to post examples? Lol....

Ok, well you guys have a great time, ok? If the group won't police itself, and the site's owners won't control the people who're breaking the rules, then it seems to me someone had better get damned busy running those banner ads, 'cause you're going to need a lot more users.

I remember some pretty heated tiffs about PotW over the last year or so. Lots of people bent out of shape because people are abusing the conventions that we're not able to enforce.

The number of users here (damned good photographers) who've left this site in disgust over the bad behavoir in PotW voting should have gotten someone's attention, but it hasn't.

We've been saying for months that the voting system as it stands just isn't suited to PotW, but nobody seems to know how to get this (seemingly) small tweak moved through the Stackexchange labyrinth.

Where's @Laura when you need her?

@rfusca Well, so much for people doing the right thing.

Is it me, or did we just pick up a bunch of downvotes again?

Yeah, I see that.

Ok, so last week, every image except one had a downvote?

mutter, mutter.

Oh, hell. Wrong week.

-3, -2, -2, -5, -1, -4, -4, -4, -3, -3.

I just looked at the downvotes for last week.

Not even close to acceptable.

Well, I'm inclined to stop caring pretty soon, too. I'm not amused.

I'll tell you what -- the data available over at data.stackexchange.com removes user_id from downvotes, but there are still some pretty damned interesting patterns in that stuff, and the so-in-so that's doing all the downvoting is pretty likely to start to pop out. There's just not that much data in the meta site to hide behind. Just sayin'.

WTH?? All the images except one are downvoted. Not cool.

@rfusca Aaack! He got me! I'm wounded.

@rfusca That's awesome -- I saw one of those t-shirts somewhere.

That's where it starts getting a little scary.

Well, now, I guess that would be up to the cop walking that particular beat, now, wouldn't it? ;-)

"All cameras are created equal, but Canons are more equal than Nikons."

"I'm doing 30 days for shooting a handheld panorama."

@rfusca Gads, I'm in trouble. "What're you in for?" "Really crummy composition."

Scary: aphotoeditor.com/2011/08/15/…

But you don't get to swing that big, white lens all over the place, bashing people in the backs of their heads, so that's a downside.

If so, I guess that's a real benefit.

@rfusca For the equivalent FOV? (taking into account the crop multiplier)

I think the one lens I'd consider getting in EF-S would be a wide-angle, since you really can't get wide on a cropped body w/ an EF lens.

@rfusca Right. I've only got one EF-S lens right now. Can't say that I'd never buy another, but that would certainly factor into my decision.

@rfusca Never knew that -- yeah, I guess that's sort of nice.

I'm not sure Canon's got an example of an EF and an EF-S that are that close in focal length.

I think it's interesting that Nikon's got both of those lenses, actually.

I know there are Canon users that'll only buy an EF lens "just in case", whether you agree with that or not.

It seems like it would matter if he's ever planning on upgrading to full-frame.

@dpollitt I believe AF-S is their equivalent to USM.

@rfusca Ideally, the person answering will fix the answer such that it's worthy of being upvoted. but that's just my $0.02, so take it with a grain of salt.

@rfusca Are we not taking steps to discount downvotes? I know that in practice, this hasn't yet changed any voting outcomes, but I thought this was in place as a general principle.

@rumtscho Likely. We always dream about the stuff we don't already have.

@rumtscho That's ok. It's perfectly acceptable to just browse and drool. ;-)

USM is a great example of this -- I'm not sure there's an L lens made today that doesn't have it, but it took a while for it to be introduced across the board.

I don't have any sort of spreadsheet in front of me, but I'd bet you'd have better luck making statements like, "all L lenses as of X date feature Y", and so on.

A fair bit of it, if I'm correct, can be tied back to the design origin of the lens (roughly dated to its original design).

It's just more common to find certain traits as you move up in the lineup.

You can't even make general statements about "all L lenses do X" or "all non-L lenses do Y".

As a very general statement, the higher-end lenses are internally zooming and focusing, with non-rotating front elements, but this is definitely not the case as you get into "consumer" lenses.