Benjamin Hollon

See you!

I've got classes now

There's an Artificial Intelligence stack in beta

But I'd read the rules for it first to make sure your thing fits

You have to select a category first, I think

There's a place to propose new sites

area51.stackexchange.com

I'm trying to remember where to find that

Hmm I know Area 51 SE was the place to do that

Ahh

"why would" is too open-ended and is off-topic for a site that helps you discover how things could work

That was my second question

I learned that the hard way with AI questions

That's off-topic for the site though

Haha

True-- but that itself would be an interesting thought: what reason would an AI have for needing to be proven an AI so badly that it will hurt people?

And that would certainly make an interesting story

Though answers can be wrong and still have some truth in them

That's true, yes

It was a fun problem to think through from my perspective as a coder and writer

Yep, no problem!

I get how that works sometimes

I'm 17, so

All right, good luck finding answers!

@CiurkitboyN No idea. As I said, that's highly dependant on the exact story and what the situation is.

Well, it depends on the importance of the decision in your story. Technically, they don't have to be well-known, just knowledgeable on the subject. Whether or not you will find people to help is very subjective to the specific situation you are addressing in your story.

Well, I'd say that's more up to your story. Your question was how they would know if they did decide it was worth it. Motivations are up to you as the author.

That's okay, go ahead and post stuff here and I'll check back in the morning.

Ah. I will not be here 1-3 hours from now, it's about midnight. :)

So right there you have part of your question answered, right?

If you could, though, access it, that would be a pretty good sign that you are not a human.

What I would expect is that there would be a private chat created between well-known individuals. Say, a bunch of leading scientists and experts on computer science and intelligence. This would be a private chat encrypted with normal standards to ensure that no normal person could access it.

Hey. I moved this to chat because it was taking up a ton of space.

@CiurkitboyN Ohh I see what you're saying. Well, the problem with something like this is that you as the AI cannot suggest the method of testing since that would invalidate the test (ie if you came up with the test format you could much more easily prepare for it). You would have to let them come up with the method. They would probably create some sort of forum like this one that you don't have access to and wait for someone like me to post an answer like this. ;)

@CiurkitboyN The kind of thing I'm suggestion could just be plain text, so they could send it to you on a chat or as an attachment of a .txt file. In my example, you turn the images of a recaptcha that they have to pick between into data uris (which are text) and then encrypt them (which would result in text).

@CiurkitboyN Ah, maybe I wasn't clear enough. My idea is that they don't tell the AI in question what the plan is until they send the first set of puzzles. A human would have no chance to put together a program in the time frame they'd expect. After all, an AI could probably solve any problem like I mentioned in a matter of minutes, if not seconds, while a human would take that long just to figure out what on earth they're looking at.

So kind of like a reverse Turing test? Interesting.