Manu Kumar

These are not attributes of Nirguna Brahman which is Self,but very thing which everyone voluntarily-involuntarily struggles.Many humans-Asuras have struggled for body's immortality like Ravana,Hiranyakashyapa etc., but failed because body cant be made immortal,while real Self i.e. Nirguna Brahman in all is only immortal(Sat).Every being earns wealth,want to have beautiful wife,children but all is temporary as true source of Ananda was always again Self i.e. Nirguna Brahman & Chida(mental space) is where its all experienced. boloji.com/articles/1505/narada-and-the-illusion-of-maya

Were Allah and Jesus stronger than Shiva-Shakti, Vishnu and therefore Hindus defeated by Britishers and Mughals? Strict Shaiva, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Islam, Christianity are all cults of Kaliyuga, all these groups are existing today because all are true in their small region. In reality there is only one nameless Purusha(Cosmic Man) and creator of all. vivekavani.com/frog-story

So, tell everyone how do they look and what they are in reality? Why are you existing on earth in the first place? Why didn't Shiva protect Hindus from Mughals and Britishers? You can be true Shaiva-Shakta only after you know what Shiva-Shakti actually are.

Do you even know what Shiva-Shakti are? Have you even seen them in reality? They are not even man and woman in reality and look like you or any human, an evolved ape of Africa.

There is no mention of Vishnu, Durga or Shiva in Vedas. Rudra, a storm deity was whitewashed as Shiva, 10 Vishvadevas were combined to form Vishnu and Shakti sadhana is not even mentioned in Vedas. Ramayana is story of king Rama who was whitewashed as God by Tulsidas, Gita is just a conversation of King Yogi Krishna with Arjuna. Real God is formless Atman/Brahman as explained in Vedas/Upanishads, its not a person. Creating Brahma(Rajas), Maintaining Vishnu(Satva) and Destroying Mahesh(Tamas) worship one another as its gunas, an energy, its an infinite cyclic loop, none is superior or inferior.

Thats why Hindus of Kaliyuga, were defeated by Britishers and Mughals, thats why you are using english language of British invaders, because there's no unity in Hindus as Puranas were created in Kaliyuga and Vedas, the real wisdom were rejected by masses. All 33 gods are manifestation of single Atman including Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh.

Shaiva, Vaishnav, Shakta are tribal puranic sects of Kaliyuga based on smritis. In reality there are 33 Vedic gods who are manifestations of formless Brahman (the word Brahmin derived from it) mentioned in Vedas and whose personification is Brahma, the architect of universe. "They call him Indra, Mitra, Varuna, Agni, and he is heavenly nobly-winged Garutman.To what is One, sages give many a title they call it Agni, Yama, Matarisvan."— Rigveda 1.164.46"

"sarvaṃ khalvidaṃ brahma" - Everything is made of Brahman, Chandogya Upanishad 3.14. Omnipresent Brahman or Atman projects matter or Maya i.e. pots, ornaments, bodies etc., and enter them as consciousness or Atman without which any body is declared dead by society. Even atheist scientists have today seen with microscope that everything is made of Atoms, which is micro model of omnipresent Atman. holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/2 "Gita 2.22 As a person sheds worn-out garments and wears new ones, likewise, at the time of death, the soul casts off its worn-out body and enters a new one

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What is Shakti? you dont even know? Where does Shakti lives? How does it look? and What about questions on Aatma and Brahman? Skipping questions wont make them disappear. Clearly 'Ignorance is Bliss for you'. People like you are more concerned about site than true Hinduism and is easiely convert to Islam and Christianity because there is no clear understanding of Vedanta and purose of life.

And Mr. by the book, enlightenment and spirituality is about understanding and I am sure any normal wise person can understand what I am trying to explain in the sense of Jagat is Mithya, which basically the same message Krishna gave Arjuna to kill his own relatives for protection of Dharma, because any materialistic person who claims jagat is not mithya like Duryodhan will never kill his relatives.

If a teacher asks you some question, will you answer it directly or mention some book number and page number and tell questioner to read it himself.

Dont give me some crammed copied experiences of some dead sages but your owns if you have. If I ask you to give me a sentence explaining yourself, will you copy paste from online or direct me to some other site for someone else expression, cant you use your understanding and logic to explain it directly? Thats whats the difference in blind superstition and wisdom/understanding.

@RakeshJoshi just by saying Brahman is gender neuter, you havent answered everything, making excuses of reading your answers is just another excuse, what about answers to these questions, what is Atman?where is Atman?How does it stores actions and where? And why did Brahman expanded into Atman in first place? Have you seen Brahman? Can everyone see Brahman? Where does it live? What is the gender of Brahman? Is Brahman conscious or unconscious? How does Brahman expands exactly?

Even an animal knows world is real, how are you better if you also believe in what you see despite reading scriptures of enlightened beings. Brahman is not gender neuter, there is no gender in reality, its a reflection of Purusha and Prakriti. If you think arrangement of bone and flesh in two forms create two genders, you need more reasoning and wisdom.

Instead of repeating same thing again and again and missing what I highlighted, first process this, 'you say world is not Mithya,but is it? If I or someone kill you today, where is Rakesh or his job or his family or wealth? It disappears instantly, you dont even remember your previous birth yet claim to believe in reincarnation. Isnt this the biggest Mithya/lie and bigotry?'

@RakeshJoshi Brahman has become world,you say world is not Mithya,but is it? If I or someone kill you today, where is Rakesh or his job or his family or wealth? It disappears instantly, you dont even remember your previous birth yet claim to believe in reincarnation. Isnt this the biggest Mithya/lie and bigotry?To understand Brahman /Upanishads, you have to realize Atman, what is Atman?where is Atman?How does it stores actions and where? And why did Brahman expanded into Atman in first place? As long you dont know the answers to these core spiritual questions,your knowledge is sheer cramming

@RakeshJoshi you dont even know what is Brahman exactly yet claim it exists? Have you seen Brahman? Can everyone see Brahman? Where does it live? What is the gender of Brahman? Is Brahman conscious or unconscious? How does Brahman expands exactly? If you dont know answer to these basic yet core spiritual questions, how can someone expect from you to explain the meaning of word Mithya or present an unbiased non-interpolated summary of major Upanishads. Brahman is mere a Upanishadic fantasy like stories of superman, spider man from your end till now.

@RakeshJoshi just like spiritual experience, you cant prove or confirm the presence of Shiva, Vishnu, Swarag etc., its mere a hearsay from the society and useless, unless one has practically seen and experienced divinity. You cant even prove God than how can you prove world is real or not(Mithya), even an animal knows world exists, more important for any wise human is to understand its purpose as neither I have created the world, nor you, nor Ramanujacharya nor Shankaracharya, rest is word jugglery for dominance over others which is futile and temporary ego satisfaction and useless for creator

@RakeshJoshi thats the point, just because some major sect is criticizing a single or fewer person doesnot prove they are wrong. Abrahamic religions are 50% of world today and way more than Hindus and deny reincarnation, Moksha, Vishnu, Shiva, does that disprove Hindu Vedanta, Dvaita etc., Animals and insects are more than humans and dont believe in God because they lack intellect, does that prove that there is no God. So, going by majority doesnot prove or disprove anything, because eventually you have to prove and understand for yourself, not to others as oblivion is one's within not outside

@RakeshJoshi I already know the answers but the point is, do you know the answers or have the urge to find it. If you dont know the answers to these deep spiritual metaphysical questions, your or your bookish definition of Mithya is erroneous because Mithya cant be understood before getting the answers to above several questions as the Mithya word is used in the context of Vedanta is for understanding the crux, not some definition of Amara kosha. Spirituality of Vedanta is to be grasped in totality and whole, not something correct here or something correct there.

@RakeshJoshi ok i agree with you, is your ego satisfied now. Now all your scholars you have read, can they explain through you, what is the real purpose of existence? What is Atman? What is God? Where does it live? What is intellect and its purpose? What is Death and reincarnation and purpose of it? What is Maya? What is the purpose of wife and children? Can they explain the answers to these simple questions, they can only if you know the answers first.

What Mithya, Sat, Satya means in context of spirituality and Vedanta, I already explained. Everyone will understand based on their background evolution and ability. Hence, Advaita, Dvaita and Vishishtadvaita school of thoughts coexist in Hinduism. The importance is not of which school of thought one follows, but the important is the spiritual path itself.

@RakeshJoshi thats the problem, spirituality is not some one word bookish definition, maybe it is for novice common worldly person, but true spirituality is based on experience and practicality. Some say Atman is same as Paramatma, some say atman is different from paramatman, some say atman doesnt exist, but the most important thing is not what someone says, but what you understand, as at the end of day spirituality or understanding is personal experience and path. Books are mere lifeless interpolations of several scholars, and for people not vice versa and cant prove or disprove anything.

@RakeshJoshi Basically there is a difference in Sat and Satya, Sat is used for a noun or Sangya in a space domain, but Satya is a verb/attribute or Kriya and a time domain fact. The opposite of Satya is Mithya/lie(not unreal), but opposite of Sat is Asat(unreal or Pratibhasit illusion). You, I and the material world exist right now, this is Satya, but its not eternal as it will perish/change with time with a fixed concrete substrate Atman(gist of Geeta) or Sat Chida Ananda. Mithya is negation of Satya and dependent on it, but asat is that which does not exist like a 12 legged human.

All these Swamis and Acharyas help others, because thats the final purpose of everyone in the first place. Not helping others is always an option and they end up as inert avadhutas like Jadabharat .en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailanga greatmaster.info/sriramakrishna/ramakrishnasayings/…

Dont follow Max Muller or such western mistranslations of Vedanta who dont have even words for terminologies like Brahman, Maya, Chitta, Chidda etc., For them there is no difference in mind and brain or soul and body. Vedanta declares, 'Jagat Mithya, Brahm Satya', here western scholars mistranslate Mithya as unreal but its not, its real meaning is something redundant, hence correct word is used as leela or play and is Vyavaharik Satya as a path to Paramrithik Satya which a layman know as enlightenment. advaita.org.uk/discourses/definitions/paramartha2.htm

@Ikshvaku I am infinite Brahman himself.

@Ikshvaku whatever is known is Maya and creation of Brahman and fake, you think real because of animal instincts. Brahman is not some person

@Ikshvaku you seek immortality, only God is immortal which was Buddha seeking, which was seeked by yogis, but you seek temporary lust, money and gold that will end with death and time, thats why you dont know Brahman. Except Brahman everything is temporary and fake omniscience, vaikuntha, powers etc., these are just useless trash. Only knower of Brahman like Vishnu is immortal not vaikuntha which is mere Maya.

@Ikshvaku thats what i told you these are just words, if you have to realize Brahman, realize it in your heart first, than alone you know Brahman, not based on scriptures alone.

@Ikshvaku these are books, there is no proof of its existence, what is meaning of Brahman? is it powers, omniscience, total nonsense you speak who has no idea of what God is or purpose of existence. tell me what is purpose of existence marriage, children?

@Ikshvaku total nonsense, where is vaikuntha show me? just stories. where is your omniscience and powers? show me, soul doesnot think nor feel

@Ikshvaku What is Moksha, where does jiva goes after death? what is mind? what is God?Is prakriti conscious?

And what is Prakriti and where does it resides?

@Ikshvaku you tell me what Brahman is first instead of talking about Buddha

@Ikshvaku yes I hate the haters because you spread hate, Jesus hated hypocritic Jews, Vivekananda hated fake Brahmins like you. Talk about you, what is brahman explain to me, leave Buddha aside.

Buddha was enlightened not all his followers, Jesus was enlightened not all his followers, one out of 1000s is enlightened. you are like tamsik wall.

@Ikshvaku from my internal wisdom because I have realized my real self i.e God i.e Brahman there is no difference between me and God, hence I develop much deeper understanding of scriptures just like all these sages I listed.

How is this even deep research? One who says "My religious way is the only heavenly skyway" leads to religious fanaticism and violence in this ignorance full Kaliyuga, even Abrahamics and non-vedic Mlecchas say that God is only Jesus or Allah with rest being Anti-christ and Kafirs, your view is parallel to them with God being Vishnu, rest being demigod worshipper. "They call him Indra, Mitra, Varuna, Agni, and he is heavenly-winged Garutman. To what is One, sages give many a title.— Rigveda 1.164.46"

these are not some metaphors, these are direct experiences of God by sages for they are worshippers of truth not any poet trying to impress people or politician.

@LazyLubber read my answer of link, God is everywhere but a spiritually blind person in ego cant understand it just like a child of 1st class cant understand class 12th book, this is where Gyana and Bhakti splits, Vedas and Puranas are composed by same sages and for same purpose. You are making meaning of one verse, read and contemplate on entire Upanishads and Vedas and on yourself before making any definition or decision and study basic Sanskrit. Tasya means that, Asti means has."He has no image" is correct translation and not refer some Max Muller wrong translations.

Puranas have been interpolated with added stories to downgrade Indra and Brahma and raise the status of Shiva, Vishnu or Shakti in their respective Puranas. In reality, God is Aatman and formless as per Vedas. na tasya pratima asti hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/35075/16530 "shudhama poapvidham" "He is bodyless and pure." [Yajurveda 40:8] Puranas are support to Vedas and any open for all varnas, but studying Vedas is task assigned only to Brahmins or those seeking enlightenment, realisation of Brahman, hence sages resolve conflicts of Purana commoners using knowledge of Vedas.

If anyone thinks man has evolved from apes or insects, they can worship them. But what one worships and thinks one will become. Man is divine in nature and made for enlightenment. Every being is seeking freedom but as long he is associated with matter and inferior realms like insects he is always bound. Thats why a man looks up in Sky for help as infinite is the cause behind him not some evolved insect.

Science itself is created by God to heighten the intellect-reasoning of mankind, instead of mindlessly living like brutes.A modern educated person from starting, ponders the cause of everything outside in matter. Spirituality on the other hand motivates a person to find the mechanism of inside. Science is not an accident but a planned invention of cosmic consciousness to bring entire humanity closer to their origin which is Self. Telephone, television these are material manifestation of spiritual siddhis like Durdharshan, Durshravan.But understand resources are limited but spirit is limitless

Darwin theory is more apt for people in west who dont believe in soul and only one birth, as is modern made up theory just like crippled Hawking has proved that there is no God and people mindlessly believed them or were forced to believe so by corrupt media. But are Hawking and Darwin some avatar/prophets to make decisions for mankind? Did they showed any signs or miracles or reformed the society and evolved their consciousness or gave them any law? No.

@KauvaAatma man has not evolved from ape physically but spiritually. Every human that you see today was not made human directly. They have undergone several births starting from insect to reptile to mammal to Man which can be seen in Dashavatar of Narayan. There are trillion of souls on earth in form of insects-reptiles-mammals etc., but only 7 billion are born as human. Man is made in the image of God that is why Man and God both are called Purusha/Nara/Narayan(collection of Nara) in Vedas/Puranas. Charles Darwin, who said man evolved from apes was freemasonry just like corrupt Rothschild.

Race of Hanuman is different and Vanara ape-like. Apart from them there were many races of Nagas(snakes and reptile people), Yakshas, Danavas, Daitya, Gandharavas coexisting on earth with race of Men as mentioned in Puranas. These races are called homo capensis, homo erectus, giants etc., today in science and have inter-mixed with humans also. These people dominate in different realms/lokas(14 kind of lokas) or in other words other solar systems.