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Do you count advisory speed signs that provide a 'suggested' speed (e.g. around a curve) but do not set a legal limit at all?

the day and the half of one were when geek's bot and then he noticed

I think my last server backups might be approaching a year

that's more up to date than mine

a day, and half of one, yes

how old are those backups? :D

@bertieb ah. wasn't entirely sure since, y'know, you weren't going to respond in there :D

haven't heard that boing noise in a while

@bertieb so uh, your matrix server seems to not be having a good time

or a more humorous take? monkeyuser.com/2017/http-status-codes

@CanadianLuke wizardzines.com/comics/status-codes?

They seem to think 23.10.2 is a good version. Maybe.

@MarkoBonaci You might find ^ interesting

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...this seems to be a long-running issue?

reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/121wtde/…

@MarkoBonaci If that does fix it, I'd suggest you create a self-answered question so we have this available on SU :) Link it here, I'll upvote it

(all of which should be completely fine, absent ... this bug)

And possibly keeping your computer running for longer periods of time

If that is the case, then you only happen to be suffering more from it because docker (and/or vscode) constantly opens/closes a lot of processes

That is ... an incredibly nasty driver bug

> What I found was that if the iGPU driver is enabled, it will prevent windows from properly exiting from ANY process, and thus the page table slowly gets filled up and fragmented.

If you'd like, you could try to use poolmon to confirm the same thing for yourself

@MarkoBonaci Someone in that thread linked to an AMD thread => community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/memory-leak-on-zen4/td-p/… which uses poolmon => learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/devtest/…

It never even occurred to me that kernel-mode drivers can hold process objects open in the same way

@MarkoBonaci Huh. Good find! It does look a lot like yours.

@MarkoBonaci That number seems to have gone up by 3k since the last check

This is incredibly odd...

@MarkoBonaci Could you confirm those 200k+ zombies are still there?

so if you do a full wsl --shutdown as luke said, you still have those handles floating around?

right, so just the Ubuntu system is still running from the looks of it

It has to be something that's calling docker that's holding them. It could be some other docker component but removing docker isn't a great test because then the caller would fail just because docker's gone?

@MarkoBonaci I would expect this to not occur then, but obviously you expect/need to use docker!

@MarkoBonaci try a --list --verbose?

e.g. I'd expect you to see something like this in FZH

ideally FindZombieHandles should've told you straight up, not entirely sure why it doesn't for you

which will at least let you identify which process is launching or holding these

well, if WSL is definitely stopped and you still see those processes floating around in RAMMap (with the associated high page table usage) - my next suggestion is you close individual applications and check counts every time

oh hey luke

(I still prefer/use WSL1 so I honestly don't know how WSL2 handles this)

@MarkoBonaci how do you terminate it?

could you run ps -e in WSL and see what's still active?

which would not count as memory used in WSL

@MarkoBonaci my suspicion is that something within WSL is launching Win32 processes and not closing them off properly

I wonder if I can kick the bot

@Harper-ReinstateMonica Thanks - I'll just chalk it up to the different systems we must have had experience with. I will say that (in cold weather and with an insufficient gas supply to multiple dwellings/heaters) sometimes the flow can get very restricted - down to almost a trickle, in spurts. End result is still rather miserable!

@JoL I'm surprised because this answer made the quite strong (bolded, even) claim that electric tankless heaters cannot control flow, and instead must suffer a loss of temperature if overloaded. So either electric tankless heaters are not capable of the same flow control valves my gas tankless has, or it's just not a common feature of electric tankless, or the assertion is not quite correct.

> There is no halfway - if you do not have enough electricity, the flow continues anyway, and you get tepid water. Is that how tankless electric works? We use tankless gas and it does restrict flow to maintain temperature. I'm surprised electric doesn't work the same way?