Jul 24, 2017 23:29
(Sorry I was not much help!)
Jul 24, 2017 23:29
It's late, I need to go, bye!
Jul 24, 2017 23:28
now it worked :-|
Jul 24, 2017 23:28
The M_R machine does something like this: 1. move left, 2. if blank do some finishing steps. 3. if not blank: remember "in a state" what letter we got, mark the current location with a blank (so that we know where to go back), 4. go just after the second blank right, put in the letter that we read, go back to second blank to the left (that would be our marked position), replace our blank-marker with proper letter that was there. 5. repeat (we start with one step to the left).
Jul 24, 2017 23:28
Then I suppose also that "l" is kne step left, "r" is one step right and "b" is put blank here.
Jul 24, 2017 23:27
Test test it seems I cannot send anything :-(
Jul 24, 2017 21:55
Sorry, but I do not understand this notation.
Jul 24, 2017 10:22
Sure, I will take a look, give me a moment.
Jul 24, 2017 09:18
Sure, I don't know if I will be able to answer, but you can ask :-)
 
Jan 30, 2017 17:25
Bye!
Jan 30, 2017 17:24
Try to figure out this one on your own.
Jan 30, 2017 17:24
I need to go, sorry
Jan 30, 2017 16:44
only you need to handle a few more things
Jan 30, 2017 16:44
We can
Jan 30, 2017 16:35
(if you are using the definition that tries to recognize a single word)
Jan 30, 2017 16:34
and you do not know at first which part of the word comes from A and which from B
Jan 30, 2017 16:33
for example there might be duplicates
Jan 30, 2017 16:33
depending on your precise definition, the machine you will need to construct might look differently
Jan 30, 2017 16:32
Still, you have to be careful
Jan 30, 2017 16:32
yes
Jan 30, 2017 16:04
I think you should work on it a bit more
Jan 30, 2017 16:01
both A and B are RE, but neither needs to be in R
Jan 30, 2017 16:00
but what about the general case?
Jan 30, 2017 16:00
in this particular case yes
Jan 30, 2017 15:57
$\Sigma^*$ is decidable
Jan 30, 2017 15:50
How did you approach that problem?
Jan 30, 2017 15:49
do you mean concatenation of two languages?
Jan 30, 2017 15:47
yes
Jan 30, 2017 15:29
then you are again correct, it is RE, but not R
Jan 30, 2017 15:24
for $A \cap B$ by recursive you mean decidable?
Jan 30, 2017 15:22
for XOR you are correct
Jan 30, 2017 14:54
(here guess = decide)
Jan 30, 2017 14:53
and the halting problem can be formulated as to guess if the given string belongs to that particular set of strings or not
Jan 30, 2017 14:53
so yes, $H$ would be then considered a subset of all substrings on $\{0,1\}$
Jan 30, 2017 14:52
and you represent $n$ as binary encodings
Jan 30, 2017 14:51
usually $\Sigma = \{0,1\}$, with infinite alphabets things get more complicated
Jan 30, 2017 14:44
I mean $\Sigma^*$
Jan 30, 2017 14:41
I meant the full language there
Jan 30, 2017 14:41
perhaps my phrase "set $A$ to be all languages" confused you
Jan 30, 2017 14:40
We don't need a set that contains all the languages, only the "full" language
Jan 30, 2017 14:33
no
Jan 30, 2017 14:27
Well, can you construct a Turing machine that recognizes whether the element is in the set or not?
Jan 30, 2017 14:24
Ok, suppose that given that $A$ and $B$ are RE, then $A \setminus B$ are RE as well. $H$ is RE, so by our assumption we have that $H^c$ is RE too, but that would make $H$ decidable.
Jan 30, 2017 14:21
In other words, set B = H.
Jan 30, 2017 14:21
We would like to use $H^c$, which isn't RE.
Jan 30, 2017 14:06
Now, can you guess how does it relates to $A \setminus B$?
Jan 30, 2017 14:06
great
Jan 30, 2017 14:03
And the second question: is its complement RE?
Jan 30, 2017 14:03
Let me ask you a question, is the language related to the halting problem RE?
Jan 30, 2017 14:00
yes