Fahad Sadah

Those things are sharp

Using a rack mounting rail or something

@Holocryptic screw him

Anyone here seriously used FSO, or played with it?

...serious play? WTF am I think?

Anyone here had a serious play with free space optics?

Really enlightening

but it's been great talking to all of you

I'm sorry, I have to go now

Are you expected to create software in your job?

In some cases there isn't a distinction between "dev", "support", and "sysadmin", it's all "IT"

and there are role isn't "DBA", "email admin", "router admin"

but as I was saying, I have some experience with small organisations

Yup

All really small places

or administering a few servers for an online free shell community

My experience is helping sysadmins at my old school

It sounds like you have shitty devs, Ben

Would you expect them to, though?

but shouldn't devs at least know some systems administration?

and I administer servers for webapps I write and I develop programs for networks

bearing in mind my interest in development and in systems/networking is pretty much categorised in my head as 'IT'

I may be biased here

and are technical people, not likely to screw up

Why not? Developers often need to install software and stuff

Please can I have an example of something a boss might want that doesn't jive with the "right thing"?

or, if I was bored, I'd tell them why they're wrong

but otherwise, yeah, my answer would have two words

@BartSilverstrim If they're saying something correct, I'd listen

In Britain, the law regarding student records is even worse

Student records: big nono?

Ah

Could be educational for them

@BartSilverstrim invite them for a day in the office or something?

Yup, MV, not mV. MASSIVE Van De Graff.

I've electrocuted her (5MV) twice now :D

Same with the physics teacher who hasn't actually succeeded in teaching me any physics

but these guys are just asking for me to screw with them

@BartSilverstrim I understand that if you actually do the job, it's a really hard job

@SpacemanSpiff anything really bad happen?

Several times (they didn't think someone would put a switch inbetween)

but spending hours walking around room to room

and later, not using the switch information to locate the fault

@BartSilverstrim Their fault for not STPing

@SpacemanSpiff You're still using hubs?

And the Van De Graff would work better if she stood directly on the floor?

@BartSilverstrim or convincing a retarded physics teacher that actually, she was standing on too many plastic trays?

It's one large network, it seems

all of em

I took out the district's school networks