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Welcome! This is the main Mathematica chat room for mathematic...
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Oct 12, 2024 13:45
@xzczd Don't let English fluency stop you from being a mod :) With the exception of Verbeia and Mr.W, all the past mods have been non-native English speakers. You also don't have to be the most active member.
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Aug 29, 2024 14:41
@JasonB. Done
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Apr 2, 2024 13:41
@chris While I sympathize with the premise, as phrased it does seem too vague/broad for this site and agree with Domen's comments. "List vs Association" is a more concrete/focused question that has many good answers and might even get to the heart of your frustration. A generic question around managing keyword explosion in the language might not have broad appeal, as most people won't know/care about new functions in an area outside their domain of interest.
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Sep 15, 2023 13:06
@user21 Maybe this?
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Jun 30, 2023 15:42
@Szabolcs No, we're still here. I don't think the issues raised in that SE post are applicable to our site. We haven't had the same volume of AI spam as some of the other sites, and our overall moderator workload is relatively low compared to Stack Overflow, as our community handles most of the close/delete queue and it's only a handful of exceptions that bubble up to the mods.
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May 23, 2023 23:46
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Jan 6, 2023 04:11
Watch out for ChatGPT answers :)
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Apr 22, 2022 18:13
@bmf No problem! I'm sure there are other sites in the network where mods do cleanup answers like the ones you mentioned above, but on this site mods have generally avoided doing that because of the diverse nature of Mathematica usage — the questions often come from very specialized fields and we are not the best judges of whether something is technically correct within that domain or not :)
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Apr 22, 2022 17:01
You can do a few things:
1. Downvote so that it goes to the bottom of the pile. With enough downvotes, it will get slightly faded out to de-emphasize it on the page.
2. Leave a helpful comment explaining why it is not an answer and suggestions to the OP if it can be improved.
3. If it is entirely useless, you can vote to delete the answer if you have 20k+ rep. I believe you can only do this if the post has ≤ 0 votes.
4. Flag it for a moderator if it is spam/abuse or otherwise entirely unrelated (e.g. a rant about something else), but not when it is just wrong because of math/code/technical …
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Apr 18, 2022 17:48
@user21 Tag synonym voting is not that discoverable or well known, so it is unlikely that community suggestions get enough votes. I've approved the two synonyms that you created as they are fairly straightforward.
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Feb 7, 2022 05:10
@xzczd Maybe mathematica.stackexchange.com/q/42351/5?
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Aug 28, 2021 19:26
@rhermans @C.E. @CarlLange We are aware of these posts and believe it is a single prankster operating under multiple throwaway accounts (which are deleted fairly quickly.) My request to y'all and the community is to not indulge the person — they get off on your outrage and concern, and come back to do more of the same. Just downvote, and if you have 20k+ reputation, please also cast a vote to delete the post.
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Jun 13, 2020 15:14
@b3m2a1 @HenrikSchumacher I cleaned up that thread. I get that their tone/entitlement was triggering, but the escalation wasn't particularly helpful. Hoping this will be the end of that back-and-forth now that the evidence is gone :) Will remove my own comment in a week or so.
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Feb 7, 2020 15:46
@Mithical Ok. In any case, it wasn't an edit that added value to the post, so overriding it doesn't feel inappropriate.
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Feb 5, 2020 14:55
@Mithical It looks like it was in the review queue again and JM rejected it from there. It could be the system trying to re-assess old reviews and calibrate reviewers and editors
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Jul 21, 2019 21:42
@rhermans Halirutan's answer summarizes the situation well. In case you were interested in what came of it, here's the frozen state of the blog mathematica.blogoverflow.com.
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May 26, 2019 23:34
That might be fun, actually. I loved the core language more than the "knowledge entity" stuff that was being pushed on us v10 onwards... Although, I'll surely miss Manipulate :)
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May 26, 2019 23:29
Almost exclusively, yeah. I downloaded v12 two weeks ago, but haven't activated my trial yet... not sure what I'd use it for
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May 26, 2019 23:26
So many new things.... I suppose that's what happens when I drop into chat once a year :D
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May 26, 2019 23:25
Oh, wait... you were asking about Mathematica autocomplete within Jupyter? Sorry, I totally misread 🤦
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May 26, 2019 23:23
Ah, ok. Get them to use PyCharm pro for jupyter support :P
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May 26, 2019 23:19
@b3m2a1 You should checkout PyCharm jetbrains.com/pycharm (or use IntelliJ w/ the Python plugin)... by far the best IDE for python. @halirutan's plugin also installs on PyCharm, so you can have a project where you flip between mma and python and get autocomplete for both :)
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Feb 9, 2019 03:32
@halirutan I wonder if we, as mods, can just merge the 2018 question into the 2019 one and automatically inherit all the old ads with the votes :D
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Sep 8, 2018 16:30
This is, in fact, what the mma pygments plugin does — it registers new lexers and new styles to work alongside the vanilla pygments. See setup.py for the entry points where we declare them. You can copy most of the code there, remove the lexer, change the corresponding stylesheets and give it a new package name.
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Sep 8, 2018 16:25
@halirutan I think the right way to do this would be to 1) create a new Pygments style and 2) register it as a plugin. That way, you won't have to hack the source and it is reproducible. With this, you can have the style sources in your LaTeX project folder and you just install it once to your python distribution to work alongside the default pygments + mma plugin.
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Jun 18, 2018 03:39
@C.E. bitbucket.org/rsm/senotebook Not updated since 2013, but feel free to copy to Github/modify/whatever :)
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May 28, 2018 19:55
However I don't think we need more than that — even though I'm "inactive", I do check in and read things at least 3-4 days/week and I have no flags to handle while I'm online. For some stats, in the past month there were 72 flags of which Kuba handled 32 and the rest were handled automatically by the community. The average resolution time was ~1 hour. This is a fantastic stat for a community and 32/month is not too high for a moderator either so 1 more would be just right.
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May 28, 2018 19:52
@halirutan It is most likely based on actual need + volume of flags... Currently, JM, Mr.W and myself are mostly inactive, leaving Kuba as the sole active moderator. For that reason, adding +1 makes sense.
R. M.
Sep 13, 2017 12:16
This question (by the buttocks guy) has 2 down votes and a down vote on their self answer as well mathematica.stackexchange.com/q/155584/5 Is this some knee-jerk reaction to the rant on meta from some rando on math.se? I don't see anything wrong with the question to deserve downvotes
R. M.
Sep 10, 2017 11:17
Having your plot be an expression that can be manipulated further w/o redoing the expensive bits in Mathematica is also a nice bonus. However, these are all things that I used to think that I couldn't live without them but in reality, I only miss them like 1% of the time.
R. M.
Sep 10, 2017 11:15
@Szabolcs I miss Mathematica's defaults and its basic functionality for quick visualization (esp. some easy interactive stuff + manipulate) but once you get down to creating publication quality plots, it's pretty much exactly the same in both systems. I've had to write lots of loc of Mathematica + SciDraw code to do things exactly the way I want it and at that point it looks no different than python or MATLAB... it's all a bunch of pixel orchestrations on subplots/axes.
R. M.
Sep 10, 2017 01:35
Personally, I've never cared for the curated data sources or to format my notebooks using fancy 2D typesetting or using math characters in my expressions, so I don't miss those aspects of Mathematica. Most people won't need like 95% of the shiny features in Mathematica or can live without them.

Some more interesting thoughts here and I agree with the author that inconsistency between packages is the main drawback with python. However in practice, you get used to it (and you can find inconsistencies in Mathematica as well). https://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/07/09/replacing-mathematica-wit…
R. M.
Sep 10, 2017 01:34
Ultimately, it mostly boils down to what you specifically need. If your work is computer algebra heavy, then Mathematica is by far the best option. For most other things, you can do it in python with mostly similar performance and you have the advantage that your code is portable and you don't have to worry about licenses, etc.
R. M.
Sep 10, 2017 01:31
@xslittlegrass Lots of good viewpoints here: mathematica.stackexchange.com/q/86058/5
R. M.
Sep 9, 2017 19:04
I work almost 100% in python for the past 3 years and I don't miss Mathematica. Perhaps you might not miss it either if you go all in on Julia (or might need it only for other things)...
R. M.
Sep 9, 2017 19:02
I think trying to learn Julia/other well first before attempting a Mathematica link would be more beneficial as otherwise there is always the temptation to only do the bare minimum (which might be inefficient) and fall back to Mathematica. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with that approach but you probably might be missing out on developing skills in a new language.
R. M.
Aug 16, 2017 14:54
I still have a perpetual license for v8 — the last "good" system that doesn't annoy me :) v9 wasn't bad either, compared to the current cruft
R. M.
Aug 16, 2017 14:50
Also, I've said this before and I'll say it again — It seems like WRI is just peddling vaporware at this point. They announce a bunch of new Wolfram products that are "Coming Soon" and most of them are still in that phase after 3-4 years. Neural network stuff and the new additions in v11 are a joke. They work amazingly well on toy examples, but for any real world dataset, you'll end up using something like keras/tensorflow and python/scala instead of some Entity filled bloatware /rant
R. M.
Aug 16, 2017 14:45
Oct 28 '14 at 15:25, by rm -rf
@acl Can that function plot the social network of your Facebook friends, do an EdgeDetect on it, blend it and tweet it to @wolframtap? No? Sorry, no bug fixes for you!
R. M.
Aug 16, 2017 14:45
@halirutan Hi! Long time indeed. I came in to star your disappointment/rant about the state of Mathematica :) Reminded me of this:
R. M.
Jun 27, 2017 05:57
It took just ~1 year to hit 100k messages in this chatroom, but ~4 years to reach 200k :)
R. M.
Mar 5, 2017 05:51
No worries!
R. M.
Mar 5, 2017 05:50
But I might have enough leads to go on, I think... thanks for the help!
R. M.
Mar 5, 2017 05:50
@halirutan No, it is inside the shape like tutorialsroom.com/tutorials/images/text_in_shape_04.gif
R. M.
Mar 5, 2017 05:43
@halirutan Not the word cloud. Something more like the last heart here: tutorialsroom.com/tutorials/details/text_in_shape.html?i=1
R. M.
Mar 5, 2017 05:40
@halirutan I'm looking for a Q&A about fitting some text (e.g. a paragraph from Alice in wonderland) into an arbitrary shape/polygon. I'm fairly certain that I've seen it around and that you/Vitaliy/Szabolcs might have answered it. My memory and search-fu is failing me... do you have any idea? Or am I dreaming this up?
R. M.
Feb 11, 2017 22:04
I would be happy to remove the feeds from other sites that are related to Mathematica (e.g. questions from Mathematics or Stack Overflow). Those were useful back then, mainly as a way to target new users and redirect them to this site, but we've been established for a long time now and don't do this anymore. The only ticker feed left will be new questions on this site, which I think is still useful.
R. M.
Feb 11, 2017 21:55
@BenNiehoff Those feeds were explicitly added to this room chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/2234/…. We added it about 5 years ago when the volume of questions on main was very low, but chat participation was very high. The feeds allowed everyone to respond to questions in real-time, thus driving up participation on the site. Now that chat participation has gone down, it might be annoying for people like you that never leave the room :)
 

 2024 Mathematica Stack Exchange Moder…

Open discussion for mathematica.stackexchange.com/election/4
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Oct 12, 2024 13:36
@domen @rhermans I hope both of you consider applying for the moderator position. I didn't notice this separate chat room earlier, but happy to answer any questions you two (and CE) might have re: moderating.

@rhermans To your question earlier — moderation load is fairly light. As you can tell from my own Q&A activity, most of it was in the past, but I still visit every week and help clear flags, resolve disputes, destroy troll accounts, etc. and don't find it a burden. We used to have 5 mods at one point (me, Mr.Wizard, J.M., Kuba, halirutan), but 3 have moved on and J.M. usually has long…
 

 IntelliJIDEA Plugin for Mathematica

Discussion related to the development of the IntelliJIDEA plug...
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Jun 9, 2018 16:49
@halirutan Now that you are a moderator, you can unfreeze this room yourself ;) Best part — mods can talk in frozen rooms!