Dec 1, 2019 02:34
Lasers intense enough to actually force electron-positron pairs out of the vacuum.
Dec 1, 2019 02:33
There is a whole new world of interesting physics to be measured with the advent of ultraintense lasers.
Dec 1, 2019 02:33
It would be way less exciting than you think though :D
Dec 1, 2019 02:32
In an indirect way anyway.
Dec 1, 2019 02:32
I think it wouldn't shock me if someone managed to measure superluminal virtual particles at some point.
Dec 1, 2019 02:31
without transmitting information
Dec 1, 2019 02:30
but here you have a whole list of things that propagate faster than light
Dec 1, 2019 02:30
Not sure, that is way beyond the area of my expertise.
Dec 1, 2019 02:28
that nothing is faster than light
Dec 1, 2019 02:28
and only if one averages them over sufficiently (macroscopically) long times then one gets the GR rule
Dec 1, 2019 02:28
while quantum field theory implies that one can get particles that move faster than light (for very short periods of time).
Dec 1, 2019 02:28
The clashes arise from GR setting a fixed upper limit.
Dec 1, 2019 02:27
It doesn't matter what the upper limit is, as long as there is an upper limit the physics is going to be the same.
Dec 1, 2019 02:26
as far as I know anyway.
Dec 1, 2019 02:26
Information cannot be sent faster than light is the rule, there is no particular reason why.
Dec 1, 2019 02:25
because things can move faster than light
Dec 1, 2019 02:25
I just wrote out a more sensible definition when it comes to some speed of light constraints.
Dec 1, 2019 02:25
Yeah, physics is imperfect.
Dec 1, 2019 02:25
'If you average over a sufficiently long time then it is not possible to send information at a speed faster than light.'
Dec 1, 2019 02:24
also there are many technical nitpicks I could make when it comes to that statement as well, it would probably be more true if one formulated it as
Dec 1, 2019 02:21
It's simply a descriptive model, and it clashes with many things in other branches of physics.
Dec 1, 2019 02:21
Nonetheless, it does not explain why.
Dec 1, 2019 02:20
That's fair enough, it seems to be a reasonable assumption that the space as-is has a finite limit to the speed of a particle.
Dec 1, 2019 02:18
In what sense
Dec 1, 2019 02:17
but that does not then have a feedback on the particle itself.
Dec 1, 2019 02:17
i.e. a massive particle makes some gravitational field (warps the spacetime around itself)
Dec 1, 2019 02:17
the nice thing about gravity is that it does not interact with itself.
Dec 1, 2019 02:16
There are things worse than gravity.
Dec 1, 2019 02:15
The real question is, do you care about feeling effectively no force or exactly no force in the particular framework you work in.
Dec 1, 2019 02:14
so if you are sufficiently far away in the empty space out there you will feel effectively no force.
Dec 1, 2019 02:14
but then again, the gravitational force falls off as 1/r^2
Dec 1, 2019 02:14
You are right then, it is unlikely
Dec 1, 2019 02:05
It's all quite complicated, but in short it's something you shouldn't care about. It's enough that things don't feel 'forces' to the extent we care about. For all intents and purposes it is a valid statement to say that the paperweight on my table feels no net forces.
Dec 1, 2019 02:01
It gets rather involved, but essentially it is nearly impossible to get a real particle (such as the electron) that would not interact with any other force field.
Dec 1, 2019 01:59
the entities that are physical and change in time are fields, i.e. some 'probability densities' that a particle is somewhere (don't take me too literally here) that are a function of (x,y,z,t)
Dec 1, 2019 01:58
Essentially the formalism does not know "particles" as dynamical entities, particles are simply something that is measured.
Dec 1, 2019 01:57
It is however the correct approximation to use if you are speaking of an extremely small particle.
Dec 1, 2019 01:57
Now in the Quantum case things get a little fuzzy, as the 'motion' cannot be particularly well defined and nor can the 'force' be.
Dec 1, 2019 01:56
In that formalism you can have exactly force-free motion for the body. If you speak of our universe, then there is too many bodies and it is highly unlikely they conspire to be in exactly the kind of configuration that would give exactly zero force somewhere.
Dec 1, 2019 01:55
then the body in the middle will feel exactly no force as the forces cancel by symmetry.
Dec 1, 2019 01:55
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Dec 1, 2019 01:54
for example if you have three massive bodies like this:
Dec 1, 2019 01:54
Now in the Newtonian sense to have a particle with exactly zero force on it you essentially need all of the force components acting on the particle to cancel.
Dec 1, 2019 01:53
Force is simply something that causes acceleration - and there are many ad-hoc equations for different forces. i.e. the gravitational force, the coulomb force. (Weak and Strong force don't appear in the Newtonian description as they can be approximated to be zero).
Dec 1, 2019 01:52
In Newtonian physics a particle is something that has a position uniquely defined by three coordinates (x,y,z) at a time 0. Then it's easy to define the 'motion' as the pace at which these coordinates change with time.
Dec 1, 2019 01:50
It turns out that we have just such descriptive models - and we use different models for different approximations. For example for human length and time scales the best approximation might be the classical Newtonian physics.
Dec 1, 2019 01:49
Now physics should never be understood as the 'truth' or as the way 'the world works'. It is simply a descriptive model that given some input data about a physical system should lead to some output data about the same physical system at a later time / different position.
Dec 1, 2019 01:47
Essentially there are two tricky things here to define one of them is "force" and the other is "motion".
Dec 1, 2019 01:47
Alright, I think the question, and my uncertainty about the answer comes down to definitions really.
Dec 1, 2019 01:41
@acros