Jul 15 13:47
@CalebStanford It seems - well… it is clear that - I expressed myself in a way that obscures my main point and caused much distraction, and I apologize for this. We can agree I meant H-index is not that useful for a conference, as your correctly digested my core point.
Jul 15 13:47
Why not choose a conference where there are speakers you are interested in because you cite their work? This would be much more productive for you than trying to find if a conference is better than another based on a single number that measures the lifetime impact of one event in a series.
Jul 15 13:47
@NIMISHAN you’re missing the point. Of course you can produce an H-index for a conference but it means nothing since the H-index will give you a citation pattern for the event since it was held. Thus, your 2012 event will very likely have greater H-index than a 2024 conference (I’m repeating myself). So what if a conference held in 2012 had an impact? We are in 2025. Citations patterns also change over time.
Jul 15 13:47
@CalebStanford you are entitled to your opinion of course.
Jul 15 13:47
@CalebStanford the H-index is a measure of lifetime impact: so yes someone senior is more likely to have a greater H-index than someone junior, which is why one should not rely only on this number to compare researchers. There's ample discussion on this topic and why a single number - especially the H-index - is misleading when comparing for instance a junior and a senior scientist. Conferences are great not because of their H-index but because they have great organizing and steering committees who insure that speakers are high quality.
Jul 15 13:47
yeah but you're missing the point. Sure, it is possible to assign an H-index to a conference but it means nothing. ACSEAC 2012 is very likely to have a higher H-index that ACSEAC 2024 because citations to the 2012 edition has had 13 years to accumulate whereas citations to the 2024 edition only one year. Moreover, what IF the 2012 edition was good? What does this tell you about the 2025 or 2026 edition? Nothing! It’s not as if you can attend the 2012 conference.
Jul 15 13:47
@CalebStanford I don’t think I get your point. The H-index is about the past; conferences are about the now. Journals don’t have H-indices, they have impact factors and Citescores and immediacy indices (or whatever fancy metric they can find to their advantage), all of which are numbers based on citations over a finite period. If a conference produced high-impact papers 10 years ago, what does that mean of the next event in the series? What of conferences not part of series?
 

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Jul 15 11:55
@qwerty You got it thanks.
Jul 15 11:31
Does anyone know the name of this law?
Jul 15 11:31
I need a bit of help on a non-physics topic. There is a law of humanity which roughly states that if you come up with a way of measuring productivity people will immediate game that measure.
Jun 28 23:30
this is also more or less my perspective. There are less stupid ways of reaching the same outcomes.
Jun 28 22:13
even if I generally agree with the idea of the boycott…
Jun 28 22:13
(to be clear: this is a stupid reason to achieve a kind of boycott of Springer…)
Jun 28 22:11
Unfortunately I’m unaware of the position of Elsevier in matters of DEI….
Jun 28 22:01
You may or may not support decision by US government but Springer Nature does not get much sympathy from me given their pricing practices and profit margin.
Jun 15 15:10
@TobiasFünke fair enough. I guess I’m in a good mood today…
Jun 15 14:53
@TobiasFünke I agree this part of the formalism is for the initiates and generally very obscure. Clear answers on this topic are too few.
Jun 6 13:50
What is the European expression: "scoring in your own goal"?
Jun 6 13:49
"Trump’s budget would even slash many of the areas his administration has identified as national priorities. NSF’s investment in research on advanced manufacturing, for example, would dip by 65%, microelectronics research would fall by 54%, and NSF’s support for biotechnology would drop by 30%. Research on artificial intelligence and quantum information science are the only priority areas that would be protected, with AI getting a 3% boost and QIS holding steady."
Jun 6 13:49
For those of you who follow US science policy:
https://www.science.org/content/article/final-nsf-budget-proposal-jettisons-one-giant-telescope-amid-savage-agencywide-cuts
May 12 07:02
@skullpatrol Thanks.
May 11 11:18
I have to go. I’m waiting for a connecting flight, boarding starts in 10mins, and I have to collect my stuff…. ‘later.
May 11 11:16
job prospects?
May 11 11:16
I mean: I used to get one appeal per year. Now I get 4. I would rarely get students filing for missed exams, this year I got 3. And, to use @ACuriousMind ‘s language , the students get mad when they get criticized.
May 11 11:12
more academic appeals, more escalations in the appeal process, that kind of stuff.
May 11 11:07
For me this correlates with my professional life, where I also noticed a much more militant student cohort this year…
May 11 11:06
I think so. Admittedly I also notice more terrible questions, or maybe I notice terrible questions more.
May 11 11:04
Thank God they cannot start debates…
May 11 11:04
I have to say I’ve been noticing more downvotes recently, or maybe I’m noticing downvotes more…
May 11 11:02
yeah but some people loose sight of the fun of learning.
May 11 11:00
@ACuriousMind I guess I’m not so caught up in this as to use my PSE rep as a metric for anything I do…
May 11 10:57
I agree with your comment that if you link something, you bring attention to it and to the poster.
May 11 10:56
Honestly I never quite understood “revenge” downvoting.
May 11 10:55
@ACuriousMind Thanks for checking. This was just unusual (for me at least) and I attribute this to random arrival times of the downvotes, which will sometimes cluster. I remember keeping an eye out simply because of the coincidental timing.
May 11 09:54
I didn’t think much of it: it’s possible I offended someone and I’ve cast my share of downvotes. It could still be anecdotal…
May 11 09:47
@skullpatrol do you have a source for this or it is urban legend?
May 11 09:44
funny you should mention it as I think I was also on the receiving end of strange downvotes recently. Basically one a day for like 3 or 4 consecutive days. Old posts…
May 10 13:25
(Now I have to figure out why I can access the whole thing… it does happen when I link from 3rd parties, like GoogleScholar, but it doesn’t happen all the time…)
May 10 13:24
well I’m sorry for that… it was not my intention to link to a partially paywalled paper…
May 10 13:23
I know I’m special but not that special…
May 10 13:23
no…
Here’s the link to the report (not the Nature article): https://osf.io/xj2m6_v1/
May 10 13:21
@qwerty they are basically discussing a report…
May 10 13:20
so somehow the link from Retraction Watch must provide access to the whole paper ‘cuz I’m certainly not doing anything fancy.
May 10 13:20
@ACuriousMind I don’t have a personal subscription to Nature and I’m not on some sort of proxy server.
May 10 13:19
there’s bullet point with a link…
May 10 13:18
I accessed the paper through this link: retractionwatch.com/2025/05/10/…
May 10 13:17
Hmmm.
May 10 13:17
I don’t have issues accessing the whole paper…
May 10 13:09
for those of you in or near the German system: nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01207-8