Nov 2, 2018 12:09
although with this CPU I can now stand to wait 6 months or so and see what AMD Zen 2 brings to the table
Nov 2, 2018 12:08
it seems like it will work out to be around $1000 for this level of upgrade
Nov 2, 2018 12:08
I'm now considering going with a dual E5-2667v2 system (3.3GHz base, 4.0GHz turbo) with 128GB DDR3 1866 RAM
Nov 2, 2018 12:07
@JMY1000 I ended up getting a Xeon E5-1660 v2 (3.7GHz base, 4.0GHz turbo) and it is already performing much much better than the old processor I had.
Oct 25, 2018 02:59
but, taking into account that the 9900k can easily be overclocked to 5GHz on all cores, and the IPC of the 9900k is already quite a bit higher than the AMD (plus it has AVX512) I'm wondering if I'd be better off spending the extra money after all
Oct 25, 2018 02:58
Obviously AMD is the more economical option
Oct 25, 2018 02:58
The main CPUs I was considering was the 2700x or the 9900k
Oct 25, 2018 02:55
I'm not sure upgrading just the CPU makes sense, the board still uses DDR3 RAM
Oct 25, 2018 02:54
I'll actually train elsewhere
Oct 25, 2018 02:54
I want to have a desktop system where I can rapidly prototype models and try things out
Oct 25, 2018 02:53
I have a 1060 GPU, I'm considering getting a 2080ti once prices come down
Oct 25, 2018 02:53
I use it as a server and a workstation
Oct 25, 2018 02:52
Intel Xeon X3450
Oct 25, 2018 02:51
OK, I switched to my desktop
Oct 25, 2018 02:50
Given that AMD is coming out with Zen 2 shortly, and it looks like this is going to be a big boost especially for scientific computing, maybe it makes sense to wait then?
Oct 25, 2018 02:50
I can't recall the model, but it is probably ~ 6 years old and is quad core with HT.
Oct 25, 2018 02:50
... out of necessity or in order to get comparable performance. I know AMD is worse at AVX2, for example.
Oct 25, 2018 02:50
It's hard to know without having the processor, all I know is that my current Xeon at 2.8GHz is showing its age, and I want something which is incredibly snappy. I can't foresee all the workloads I may do in the future, but there have been plenty of operations I have run currently where the CPU is pegged at 100% across all cores. As for what I mean by AMD being quirky, I mean (for example) how the 2990wx is actually worse than the 2950x for memory bandwidth sensitive workloads. I'm also wondering if getting an AMD means that I have to often compile libraries instead of using binaries, either..
Oct 25, 2018 02:50
It's not 5GHz specifically, but it looks to me as though anything from Intel with >= 16 PCIe lanes drops down to 4.2GHz boost clock, and even then it costs $2000. The point is I want a PC which performs as a very responsive development desktop, while also being able to prototype deep learning models. I'd be open to AMD, but I'm not sure CPUs from AMD are advisable for scientific computation, their Threadripper options seem a bit quirky.
 

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Dec 8, 2012 04:07
Anyone available to discuss a topology question regarding homotopy? I am stuck on an exercise from Hatcher's book, and I would post a question but I really think I need to discuss it briefly...
Dec 8, 2012 03:19
Is anyone available for a topology chat? I would ask a question, but I really need to have a discussion regarding homotopy for a couple of minutes.
Sep 2, 2012 20:31
Right, and the other two are the same so there doesn't seem to be any way it could be $-\sqrt 2$
Sep 2, 2012 20:12
@skullpatrol I traversed the points in a counterclockwise manner. I believe it is a theorem that the direction does not matter in integration with respect to arc length.
Sep 2, 2012 20:07
@robjohn Great, thanks again for the help!
Sep 2, 2012 20:05
OK, thanks for the help. This is the first problem on integration with respect to arc length, so I wanted to make sure I understood it correctly before doing many problems incorrectly
Sep 2, 2012 20:02
So the book's answer is just incorrect then (they had $-\sqrt2$)
Sep 2, 2012 20:00
Ok, so I get that the total integral is $1+\sqrt 2$
Sep 2, 2012 19:58
For (0,1) to (0,0) I had $g(t)=(0,1-t)$
Sep 2, 2012 19:46
@robjohn My book (Apostol's Calculus) defines general line integrals first, and then they go on to say that a line integral of a scalar field $f$ with respect to arc length along $C$ which can be parametrized as $g(t)$ is defined as $$\int_C f \, ds=\int_a^b f(g(t))\lVert g'(t) \rVert dt$$
Sep 2, 2012 19:43
$\int_C (x+y) ds$ where $C$ is the triangle with vertices $(0,0)$, $(1,0)$, and $(0,1)$ traversed in a counterclockwise direction
Sep 2, 2012 19:42
@robjohn The problem is: Calculate the line integral with respect to arc length of the following
 
Sep 14, 2012 02:53
Sorry :)
Sep 14, 2012 02:53
Hopefully you get some other responses to your question
Sep 14, 2012 02:52
Hmm... I guess I can't be of any help then, I'm not sure what the notation would be otherwise
Sep 14, 2012 02:51
ok
Sep 14, 2012 02:51
In mathematics, Green's theorem gives the relationship between a line integral around a simple closed curve C and a double integral over the plane region D bounded by C. It is named after George Green, and is the two-dimensional special case of the more general Stokes' theorem. Theorem Let C be a positively oriented, piecewise smooth, simple closed curve in the plane \mathbb{R} 2, and let D be the region bounded by C. If L and M are functions of (x, y) defined on an open region containing D and have continuous partial derivatives there, then :\oint_{C} (L\, \mathrm{d}x + M\, \mathrm{d}...
Sep 14, 2012 02:51
Yes, but Green's theorem doesn't apply here
Sep 14, 2012 02:50
so how were you applying Green's Theorem?
Sep 14, 2012 02:50
right
Sep 14, 2012 02:48
@Paul Can you post the integrand?
Sep 14, 2012 02:47
the integrand in question looks like a scalar field
Sep 14, 2012 02:46
Green's Theorem applies to vector fields in $\mathbb R ^2$
Sep 14, 2012 02:46
(with respect to arc length)
Sep 14, 2012 02:45
A line integral whose differential is $ds$ is the line integral of a scalar field
Sep 14, 2012 02:44
In particular, how are you applying Green's theorem if it is a scalar field?
Sep 14, 2012 02:42
@Paul Is the integrand a vector field or a scalar field?
Sep 14, 2012 02:42
Again, I'm hesitant to say yes unequivocally because I have not used the notation myself often. That being said, I would think that $dS_1$ would be the same as $ds$ in your typical line integral notation, so yes I believe you are correct.
Sep 14, 2012 02:42
I believe you can. Compare, for instance, the notation in your book for the divergence theorem and this notation of the divergence theorem. Perhaps someone more familiar with the book will come along with a more definitive answer, however.
Sep 14, 2012 02:42
What's the source of this notation? I have not seen it written this way.
Sep 14, 2012 02:42
Ah, yes I have seen it written that way before, I was misinterpreting it.