Mitch Lindgren

Keep up the good work

I do hope that something worthwhile comes of my original question :)

I have to head out for a little while, but thank you very much for your feedback

Okay, will do

@MarkTrapp I can ask a question to that effect as well, but I am not comfortable closing or deleting my original post, if that's what you're asking me to do. That said, I will not take it personally if you or other users do vote to close the original question

I'll fix that

Incidentally, I have a comment in my inbox which doesn't seem to exist on the question page. Did the comment just get deleted, or what?

I have edited my question to add more data and try to remove some of the bits that might result in a less constructive discussion

I'm going to edit my question to try to improve it a bit...

@MarkTrapp My intent with the numbers was simply to illustrate that there is room for improvement. Unfortunately I can't find the question now, nor do I remember if it was a mod who answered it, but I remember reading one where the topmost answer was basically "I don't think the guidelines/FAQ need to be improved."

@WorldEngineer That's why I'm not a Project Manager :D

Gaming: 47.55% <= 0, 9.18% >= 5

Preliminary results from English: 47.47% of closed questions are <= 0 points, 6.27% are >= 5

I think you're doing a great job, but further and more accessible clarification of the purpose of the site is needed

@MarkTrapp I agree, there's no way that it can be completely solved. It relies too much on users and there will always be people too lazy or unwilling to understand the requirements. But I DO think we can do better than 1 in 5 questions closed, and I'm not saying that as a shot at you guys

They have more than half as many questions with only a third of the users

Hm... maybe English? User base is at least on the same order of magnitude, and the level of subjectivity is more similar, I think

I think the subjectivity is a big part of the issue

Not always, but they're certainly more objective on average than the types of questions asked on Programmers

er, objective, I mean

Haha... but generally math questions are completely un-subjective

@WorldEngineer I agree about Gaming, but I'm not sure Math works either... there's a fairly clear delineation of what is and isn't math

Any idea how I could improve it?

Hm... so my data may paint a negative picture of the moderation on Programmers without necessarily being very accurate or useful. That was definitely not my intent

Maybe it would be more accurate to compare the first year or so of Stack Overflow questions to the first year of Programmers questions

And it's definitely difficult to compare data from an established site like SO against data from a relatively new site like Programmers...

@MarkTrapp Yeah, I had no idea about the paradigm shift, so to speak. That is probably a large part of the confusion

@WorldEngineer I agree. I tried to frame my question in a neutral manner so as to promote discussion, but I think the mods are USUALLY not wrong in closing questions

@MarkTrapp I was not aware of that. That does somewhat invalidate my data

To the best of my knowledge. I'm not an expert with the Stack Exchange query system either, but I basically did a "select score, count(score) from posts where closeddate is not null group by score order by score" for each site

What do you mean by context?

I apologize if my question seems un-constructive. I asked it because I was reading some of the other ones you linked to and trying to figure out what I was missing about the guidelines and their enforcement, but I didn't see a lot of constructive discussion around the issues that were raised in those questions

Sounds good

I'm afraid I'm not too familiar with Stack Exchange chat

Hi there