Jan 24 21:03
@[email protected] Check once more.
Jan 23 17:59
@[email protected] I made edits.
Jan 23 16:17
@K.Power If you can add an answer changing my definition, I will give you the bounty.
Jan 23 16:07
@K.Power How would you change the defintion to get what I want?
Jan 23 16:04
I don't know how to define it explcitly. All I know is when the angle between a non-vertical line and vertical line approaches zero, the most number of times a near-vertical line can intersect with a hyper-discontinuous function is infinite. The least number of times a near-veritcal line can intersect with a hyper-discontinuous functions is once.
Jan 23 16:04
I stated the angle between the non-vertical and the vertical line approaches zero.
Jan 23 16:04
@K.Power The most a vertical line in $[a,b]$ can interesect with $\left. f\right|_{[a,b]}$ is once. The least is also one. Therefore, $((1-1)+(1-1))/2=0$
Jan 23 16:04
@K.Power I don't understand. My calculations give me zero for $f(x)=x$. Are you sure you are correct?
Jan 23 16:04
@Eric Could you give me an example?
Jan 23 16:04
Try and salvage whatever you can. Ignore the rest.
Jan 23 16:04
Should I then say $\left.f\right|_{\mathbb{Q}\cap[a,b]}$. I think it still make sense.
Jan 23 16:04
I feel like I had to remention $f:X\to Y$ from my post to make the answer clear. It's something I learned from a former professor.
Jan 23 16:04
Hyper-discontinuous functions cannot be defined on the interval $[a,b]$ but we can take an "almost vertical" $\ell$ in $[a,b]$ to interesect with the hyperdiscontinuous function. Note $[a,b]\cap\mathbb{Q}\cap[0,1]$ does not have to be empty.
Jan 23 16:04
$\ell^{\prime}$ is a non-vertical line that interects with $\ell$, and rotates around the interesection with $\ell$ to approach the line $\ell$.
Jan 23 16:04
I forgot to note $\left|\ell\cap[a,b]\right|=\mathfrak{c}$. I can't make more edits or I could risk being suspended.
 
Jan 23 01:33
My answer is complete.
Jan 20 10:26
I posted a new answer.
Jan 20 10:26
@AlexRavsky You're right. I don't think my answer can be salvaged.
 
Jan 23 00:57
I made one more edit. See if this measure is any better.
Jan 21 17:22
Oh well...thanks for responding.
Jan 21 17:12
If the measure D doesn't make sense, is there any way to change the measure so it gives everything I want in my answer...
Jan 21 17:12
What I meant to say is when the counting measure $|\ell^{\prime}\cap[a,b]|$ is positive infinity, $\ell^{\prime}$ interesects twice with the indicator function for the rationals restricted to [a,b].
Jan 21 16:51
Exactly
Jan 21 16:47
$\ell^{\prime}$ is a straight line
Jan 21 16:44
Try and salvage whatever you can. Ignore the rest.
Jan 21 16:44
Should I then say $\left.f\right|_{\mathbb{Q}\cap[a,b]}$. I think it still make sense.
Jan 21 16:44
I feel like I had to remention $f:X\to Y$ from my post to make the answer clear. It's something I learned from a former professor.
Jan 21 16:44
Hyper-discontinuous functions cannot be defined on the interval $[a,b]$ but we can take an "almost vertical" $\ell$ in $[a,b]$ to interesect with the hyperdiscontinuous function. Note $[a,b]\cap\mathbb{Q}\cap[0,1]$ does not have to be empty.
Jan 21 16:44
$\ell^{\prime}$ is a non-vertical line that interects with $\ell$, and rotates around the interesection with $\ell$ to approach the line $\ell$.
Jan 21 16:44
I forgot to note $\left|\ell\cap[a,b]\right|=\mathfrak{c}$. I can't make more edits or I could risk being suspended.
 
Jan 28, 2022 23:31
@whuber I meant $\mathbb{Q}^2\cap[0,1]$.I also edited my post. Hopefully, this time its more clear.
Jan 28, 2022 23:31
@SexticusEmpiricus I made edits. Hopefully this is better.
Jan 28, 2022 23:31
@SexticusEmpricus Since $S_s$ is finite we can take the arithmetic mean of $f(S_s)$ for every $s\in\mathbb{N}$ as $s\to\infty$. I also made edits to my post.
Jan 28, 2022 23:31
@Carl Apologies, $S_n$ isn’t a partial sum. Think of it as a set; and we are including new elements instead of adding them.
Jan 28, 2022 23:31
For example if the $S_s=\left\{\frac{1}{n}:n\in\mathbb{N},1\le n\le 2s\right\}$. Note that every time $s$ increases by one we add $2$ elements from $A=\left\{\frac{1}{m}:m\in\mathbb{N}\right\}$ to $S_s$ and as $s\to\infty$ we end up covering all elements of $A$
Jan 28, 2022 23:31
@SextusEmpricus Sorry for the delay, I wanted to make sure everything in my post was clear.
Jan 28, 2022 23:31
What about for this question I know I stated this correctly.
Jan 28, 2022 23:31
@whuber I added examples to clarify my statements. Is this better?
 

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Sep 24, 2021 13:55
@XanderHenderson Should my question math.stackexchange.com/questions/4251598/… be closed. I tried hard and I got two upvotes but my post also got one downvote. Is my post still unclear.
 
Jun 17, 2021 13:01
@Michael Could you give me an example where my definition makes no sense?
Jun 17, 2021 13:01
@Michael The structure of $J_k$ shouldn't matter. You should get the same results. If not I will redefine $J_k$ as having open intervals. The main reason, I wanted to use closed intervals is for countable sets to have zero measure which couldn't be done by open intervals if they had the same length. As for your example, if you are trying to cover $\mathbb{R}$, then the sets you are using won't work for $g\le 1$ since we have $\left\{[0,1][1+g,2],[2+g,3],[3+g,4]\right\}$ which is not covered as $g\to 0$
Jun 17, 2021 13:01
@Michael If you are not covering $\mathbb{R}$, then your example is fine. As I previously mentioned the structure of $J_k$ shouldn't matter. Closed, open, overlapping or non-overlapping you should get the same result......I'm not sure how to be more specific.
Jun 17, 2021 13:01
@Michael How much has my definition improved.
Jun 17, 2021 13:01
@Michael For all $g$, $J_k$ doesn’t always have the same left end point. For example if $J_k$ covered $[0,1]$ the last $J_k$ to cover the end-point of $[0,1]$ would be $[1-\left\lfloor g \right\rfloor, 1]$. Note the left point may fluctuate between $1-2g$ and $1-g$ but note as $g\to0$ both values converge so this doesn’t matter. Also note $S$ must have all its points in the $I_k$ or $J_k$ sets, otherwise this breaks the requirements of my measure. If $S$ was too “over-covered” it wouldn’t give an infimum bound. I assume the Lebesgue measure would state the same.
Jun 17, 2021 13:01
I meant “under-covered”. If it was “undercovered” there is no reason for an infimum bound. As stated in my measure when $A$ is uncountable $S\subseteq\left(\bigcup\limits_{j=1}^{\infty}I_j\right)\cup\left(\bigcup\limits_{k=1}^{m}J_k\right)$
Jun 17, 2021 13:01
@GerryMyerson I did link this question
Jun 17, 2021 13:01
@Michael Stay with me. How much has my definition improved,
Jun 17, 2021 13:01
@CalvinKhor I am close to explaining. Be patient with me. If I took the infimum over $J_k$ how would that change my definition. And how would I defined it.
Jun 17, 2021 13:01
@CalvinKhor The infimum is over $m$
Jun 17, 2021 13:01
@CalvinKhor I intended to write $\ell(J_1)=g$…$\ell(J_k)=g$ where $g=0$ or $g\in\mathbb{R}^{+}$ when $A$ is uncountable.