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@Alion That's not an excuse, I don't program in Python either. :)

@AlienAtSystem Beta Is scoring lower because of the order of questions and answers in Gamma. At the beginning of the game Gamma doesn't know who is who and must assume something. If you change the order of the "ifs" in Gamma, then Beta will be first.

Btw. I wouldn't wait 1 month before posting some results. Other KOTHs I saw were posting results about once per day, as long as new answers were appearing. This has the advantage, that the competing users can see where they are standing, without the need to run the controller every time someone changes something.

@AlienAtSystem You can keep your bots to yourself, or post them as non-competing bots, but you are right, usually other users should post some bots.

G2g now.

Or even better, try to implement it, especially if no one else is trying.

No problem, criticise as much as you want. :)

At least once more sophisticated bots appear.

But they will usually be populating the ranks below you.

RIght, didn't think about the simple predictable bots.

Additionally, I think the number of turns is too low for that to be effective.

Even if it wouldn't be as complicated as I think, you can't willingly drop down, if you don't know the questions.

I hope I didn't introduce any compile errors by editing the answers.

@AlienAtSystem Not sure if I understand you correctly, but I changed all bots a little. They use a random answer for unknown bots now, as there is no viable strategy if I don't know anything about the questions. I also changed the asking function for Gamma. It's using now one of the opposite exams (all questions have the opposite answer) from Alpha or Beta for unknown opponents.

I didn't find a way to form an asymmetrical team. The only opportunity to inter-operate with a team member is when one of them is in a level directly above the other. And then you have 2 possibilities, either you help the bot below you or you don't. In the latter case I don't see a gain for the team.

@AlienAtSystem So, I posted 3 bots now. The first two are forming a team. I added the 3rd one mainly to prevent some other user from trying the same idea. Please tell me if there are any problems with that.

Two bots working together aren't a problem. I'm trying to make a set of three bots, to prevent others from profiting of both my bots, but it's not working yet.

most of the code will be identical, but the behavior will differ

lets hope the differences between the bots are significant enough

no problem, thanks for fixing :)

somehow my bots aren't in the position matching the number they get

@AlienAtSystem is it possible, that the ID is still wrong?

where can I get the fixed controller?

@AlienAtSystem good, that you found the bug, I was just wondering why the handshake between my bots didn't work

935/1000
936/1000
937/1000
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Controller.py", line 141, in <module>
    score=C.run_game(100)
  File "Controller.py", line 121, in run_game
    self.exam()
  File "Controller.py", line 116, in exam
    self.contestants[ID].update(self.ranks.copy(),(exams[ID].copy(),answers[ID].copy()),[(exams[i].copy(),answers[i].copy()) for i in np.arange(self.N) if examiners[i]==ID])
  File "D:\data\koth\bureaucracy\Contestants.py", line 30, in update
    self.bayesianupdate(ownExam[0])

@AlienAtSystem It seems you need to disqualify your own bot ;)

Btw. I'm still waiting for your bot ;)

I'm afraid you are right, my bot is far from implementing any strategy at all, it simply grabs as much land as safely possible.

got to go now, bye

I see, that in the new code you check for claimed points. If my land is located directly next to TrapBots land, and I move from my land to TrapBots land, there will be no claimed points yet. They appear after the bot leaves that point.

When should fill work, when not?

What exactly did you try to fix?

Just play some games in the GUI

But I don't really have a problem with that :)

It still happens

Maybe it happened when my bot closed his current loop

Hm, can't tell really, map just got filled by TrapBot when my bot went to the edge, but my bot kept a small amount of land

Hard to tell, because all happens so fast :)

Just had a similar case like in the first image i posted, but I think its a different case

Apparently it doesn't happen anymore

You changed the rule? How?

Is it incorrect? It works as you said in the rules IIRC.

How is it supposed to work correctly?

@JAtkin I think I know how TrapBot wins. Let's assume it can finish his loop while my bot is inside. At this point, if my bot moves towards the edge, as soon as it enters land owned by TrapBot it's no longer inside the loop and I loose all my land.

good night

have to go now, yesterday was a little late

Just make a 1vs1 game with TrapBot and another one which stays in the center

It just filled the area, although my bot was inside

I think there might be a bug

Sometimes when TrapBot fills the board, I have no explanation at all