JonTheMon

also: scryfall.com/card/eoe/118/susurian-voidborn

@XanderHenderson lol

Though maybe untap shenanigans would be better?

Still can do some calendar jank. Though only doubling season and innkeeper's talent would be able to double your counters.

Do both All Will Be One and the calendar rotate?

Nobody expects the Millish Inquisition!

Boros tokens and synthesizer decks don't scare you?

Yeah. Though what is the cheapest sweeper in Dimir?

Though by the time you have 6+ mana to cast the "halve their library" while also holding up interaction, it might not be as much mill as you want.

Though I do think you're missing a couple of pieces, like counterspell+mill, but blue has some pretty good mill options, like Mindskinner and the blue FF adventure land.

dimir mill, go!

lol

I think that it needs another removal equipment. Kinda running as a red(white?) control?

But what about Gilgamesh?!?!?

I was thinking that Hope might be a good blocker that mills, but it's only on your end step, so at most she'd be a lifelink blocker

Is your thought on mill to treat it like a burn deck? and adding a lifegain subtheme would detract too much from that?

and the white removal/control as well

My thought on the mill with azorius was that the lifegain might be helpful to offset any aggressive strategies while incidentally milling.

though black will also have scryfall.com/card/lci/282/restless-reef and scryfall.com/card/woe/222/cruel-somnophage-cant-wake-up

I know the colors, i just wondered what black brought to the table. I was thinking UW would be better since you get these online sooner: scryfall.com/card/fin/226/hope-estheim scryfall.com/card/eoe/229/space-time-anomaly

Dimir mill?

You don't feel like a creature person, so any tribal (even changelings) wouldn't be you... How do you feel about artifacts/synthesizer?

I guess manifest Dread is too close to reanimation and not consistent enough. could go mill, especially with that new sorcery

So what are you looking at after that?

And that buy order seems a little expensive. Though I do admit I buy from TCGPlayer....

Ever consider Smuggler's Surprise? Once your creatures are big enough it's a Heroic intervention+

Ah, I wondered, since I couldn't see that.

What effect was keeping you from losing?

I feel that since some of the station cards aren't spacecraft, that the mechanic feels closer to battles.

Hmmm, if it think of them as battles where you can't be blocked and summoning sickness doesn't apply to hit them....

It's kinda a bit like battles, on how much benefit you get and how hard they are to flip.

Fair enough. Though I think Station is hard to parse in isolation. Warp, tokens that can't block, and benefits from tapping will determine how good it is.

A lot of the station cards seem underwhelming. Like, 4 mana, creates a 2/2, but after 9+ station, you only get a 3/4 flyer

Eh, counters are a little different from a temporary increase in power, and built-in trample helps as well.

Hooboy, tifa's ability on another creature, but it's targeted.

Though warp does help with station, since you can just warp something in with high power for a turn to help station before it exiles

I'm not sure how I feel about the planet lands. They are really strong effects, and they gatekept them behind Station 12, but I feel they might get out of hand pretty fast. Though station does lead to more creature-centric decks, so maybe it'll work out?

Probably true since that would make more like a counterspell than removal+

Hmmm, if we use a 1B focused kill spell and tack on the B for stifle, that might be properly costed? "Destroy target creature that entered the battlefield this turn. Counter up to one targeted activated or triggered ability."

Does the modal ability seem less modal if it's worded "up to one creature" and "up to one activated or triggered ability"?

Maybe 2UB

Well, between the generic counterspell being 1UU, and Summary Dismissal (2UU) cleaning up the whole stack, I thought maybe a 1UB might be reasonable.

Though it would be interesting to see how powerful a "destroy target creature. remove all abilities from the stack" would be, and how much it'd need to cost

Or you could see it as trying to temper the power of the reactive play by promoting (power creeping) the proactive play.

@bwDraco It's power creep, but it's also part of "feel bad" magic, i think. If you cast a creature, and it gets immediately removed, you're at card parity, but possibly behind in mana parity. If your creature comes in, has some effect, then gets removed for less mana, you've at least come out ahead in value.

I suppose the reason I asked the question in the first place is because, as a combat trick, it's not much superior to a sorcery-speed version of the spell. The instant speed aspect of it always seemed more relevant for end-of-turn use.

actually, you'd still get to keep one creature. but still might lose your in-combat one.

Though it depends on if the opponent does that too. If you fire off your sweeper, then they respond by killing your dude, everything dies. Kinda a game of chicken

Ah, stifling the fetch. I suppose besides the last minute nature of the sweep, you might want to have any on-attack triggers, or at least know if you're going to get them or not. And if the opponent tries to kill the creature before combat, well, there's indestructible as well.

@bwDraco Why do you have to declare attackers first (besides delaying the information til the very end?)