Steven Jeuris

Oct 15, 2021 08:38
@Ooker I think it's relevant to bring this up, but in SE parlance, it's too broad without specifying which diversity you are after. :) One relevant one I can think of is in terms of scope. We set out to include a given set of topics on this site, it would be informative to see percentages of how well each are represented/how active they are, and the quality of contributions to each topic/subtopic.
Oct 14, 2021 14:45
Spot on @ChrisRogers! In fact, @ChrisRogers does a fair bit of moderation on the site and has a background in psychology.
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Oct 14, 2021 12:24
And the 6th candidate (Chris) their nomination was withdrawn.
Oct 14, 2021 12:23
I think the main reason the 5th candidate (who still got quite a bit of votes) didn't make the cut was because they have little to no experience with this community.
Oct 14, 2021 12:22
I don't have a background in neuroscience. :) But neither in psychology.
Oct 14, 2021 07:15
What type of diversity do you mean, @Ooker?
Oct 6, 2021 19:56
The current number of unanswered questions we are accumulating is starting to look a bit worrying, though: psychology.meta.stackexchange.com/a/2577/21
Oct 6, 2021 14:56
We try to focus our activity on Q&A. ;p
Oct 6, 2021 14:56
Nope. :)
Jun 12, 2020 18:49
But, I won't roll back on your decision.
Jun 12, 2020 18:48
Assuming good intent, I wanted to give the author a chance to correct it.
 
Jun 12, 2020 20:18
Regardless of what you choose, thank you for this conversation!
Jun 12, 2020 20:18
But, you will only receive meaningful feedback if you communicate concisely and clearly what your thesis is, and stay relevant to the question at hand.
Jun 12, 2020 20:17
In case you receive down votes, but no explanation why, that would also signal a problem. I am hopeful, however, once you add sources, that might lead to a meaningful discussion on the interpretation of these sources in relation to your answer.
Jun 12, 2020 20:17
As stated twice before, I suggest you do a complete rewrite. The majority of your current version does nothing but detract from your main thesis. A rewrite has a chance of (1) not being deleted, (2) receive explanations of why people do not believe the sources you list are true, rather than merely down voting it.
Jun 12, 2020 20:14
Best of luck!
Jun 12, 2020 20:12
For example: citing a question (psychology.stackexchange.com/q/25440/21) that is unanswered, and actually has a link to a helpful related question, you cannot infer the answer to that question one way or the other.
Jun 12, 2020 20:12
But, be warned, that so far the sources you have listed do not seem convincing to me. So, I still expect your answer to be down voted. But, it won't be removed (not on my watch, at least). To prevent down votes, it would help to not overinterpret/extrapolate from evidence you might cite.
Jun 12, 2020 20:08
I remove irrelevant content, unsourced content, etc.
Jun 12, 2020 20:07
I never remove controversial content.
Jun 12, 2020 20:07
I'm trying to help you focus on those parts of your answer which could constitute an answer, controversial or not.
Jun 12, 2020 20:05
Does that answer the question? Instead, to me it seems the very first sentence presumes an answer to the question. ("the conclusion that white is probably an inherently superior quality"). Weren't you just now trying to find sources to prove that?
Jun 12, 2020 20:01
You seem to be fairly familiar with Stack Exchange. You might have heard before answers should stand on their own?
Jun 12, 2020 20:00
And on top of that you omitted the one thing which could have made this an acceptable answer.
Jun 12, 2020 20:00
I have been helping you pinpoint what is essential so far. Cutting stuff is hard, but as you just yourself stated before "the answer was too long and complicated and I was bored at the time" ... what do you expect from readers then?
Jun 12, 2020 19:59
56 mins ago, by Steven Jeuris
Either way. Another moderator has since removed your answer. I suggest you have a proper look at all the feedback you have gotten so far. And rather than adding stuff to your answer, figure out what is essential, and figure out what is inflammatory and can be removed regardless for your main thesis.
Jun 12, 2020 19:57
Okay, that is a pity, because I think we just concluded these sources would support the main thesis of your answer. And without sources, as I stated before, we typically don't accept answers.
Jun 12, 2020 19:55
And, would you agree that bold claims require strong evidence?
Jun 12, 2020 19:54
How come these sources (controversial or not) were not mentioned in your answer?
Jun 12, 2020 19:43
From this exchange so far I conclude that if you could successfully argue that "the beneficial bright qualities express themselves ... in ... human biology", that would constitute an answer. Now, what are your primary sources confirming that?
Jun 12, 2020 19:38
Sure! :)
Jun 12, 2020 19:37
Great. For the time being, I will ignore the 'supernature' addition you added there, as I think that refers to your final point "Religious accounts of God and blissful supernatural phenomena in terms of bright/white qualities." which I already clarified does not constitute an answer on this site.
Jun 12, 2020 19:36
For me, that is already moving on to your second point 'preference of white skin' (because it corresponds to a benefit) and vice versa. Now, do you agree that is a bold statement?
Jun 12, 2020 19:33
But let's take it step by step. I think you are already referring to your next point, correct? "People's natural preference of white skin and negativity against dark skinned people." Or, is this still in relation to "The sources are observation of benefic qualities in light/bright colors in nature. "?
Jun 12, 2020 19:31
That might be. But we are a scientific stack. I wouldn't mind having tangential short reference to religion and metaphysics, but the core of an answer (on this site) should be scientific.
Jun 12, 2020 19:29
What makes you say it is not purely a scientific question?
Jun 12, 2020 19:27
Okay. That was also my observation. I appreciated the additional examples, but those would be more suitable to post as a comment. After all, the OP was looking for scientific evidence to back up what they only assumed.
Jun 12, 2020 19:25
"The sources are observation of benefic qualities in light/bright colors in nature." Do you feel you elaborated more on this observation than the OP, or added sources to add additional evidence for this, where the OP merely hypothesized?
Jun 12, 2020 19:24
Let's take these one by one.
Jun 12, 2020 19:21
I agree that is an answer to the question. Now, what are your sources for concluding that, and, do these add anything on top of the original question?
Jun 12, 2020 19:18
So, I repeat. Could you write me the thesis of your answer in 1-2 sentences?
Jun 12, 2020 19:17
And does you thinking that "innate symbolism is responsible for stereotypes against dark-skinned people" answer the question: Is the symbolic meaning of dark/black and light/white innate in humans?
Jun 12, 2020 19:06
How is the 'ethical response' to hypothetical (and entirely unproven) differences between race relevant to that question?
Jun 12, 2020 19:03
For example, can you sum up the main thesis of your answer in max 2 sentences here? And, keep in mind that the answer is supposed to answer the question! "Is the symbolic meaning of dark/black and light/white innate in humans?"
Jun 12, 2020 19:02
Either way. Another moderator has since removed your answer. I suggest you have a proper look at all the feedback you have gotten so far. And rather than adding stuff to your answer, figure out what is essential, and figure out what is inflammatory and can be removed regardless for your main thesis.
Jun 12, 2020 19:01
Or, introduce your own definitions.
Jun 12, 2020 19:01
That is why you add citations. To cite the meaning of the word, and context, of your citation.
Jun 12, 2020 18:59
If you going to follow scientific reasoning, adopt scientific terminology. It seems like you are pulling in arguments from natural selection.
Jun 12, 2020 18:52
I respect some of the stances you take. In a hypothetical world where you are right, that would be the correct way to deal with it. But your entire premise is faulty, or is at least, to the best of my knowledge, and you pull in no sources to prove that there is any reason to believe it is true.
Jun 12, 2020 18:50
I do hope you understand why you are seen as racist, given statements such as "my more particular contention that moderately white people (e.g. Arabs) are superior of all".