Monty Wild

@VLAZ The gods in my setting exist, but they didn't create the place, they just sort of found the 3D universe sort of sticking into their 4D universe, and decided to play with it. They're gods in that they can do stuff that higher-dimensional beings can do in a lower dimensional space, but they have limits on what they can pay attention to, because at the end of the day, they're still just somewhat more capable people. They're worshipped, but its easy for them to miss that.

Bump.

@Aadmaa Not all horse-drawn carriages had the driver at the rear like hansoms. Most had the driver at the front IIRC.

@JBH Have a look at my edit.

@JeffZeitlin It would be perfectly acceptable (even to tradition-bound Ruquelians) to argue that it would be safer for a car to be 1+n(+n)... rather than 3+3(+3)...

@JeffZeitlin I agree. 6-seaters as I described them would be family cars. Sports cars with passenger seats could easily be 1+1/2/3.

Probably more like a bangle for the poor.

Manacles, or one manacle might do, on the wrist or ankle.

Something like that. As I said, men were slaves at first, but it hasn't stayed that way over 6-7000 years.

Well, manacles might evolve into bracelets.

1920s currently, give or take, but this needs to work historically too.

Though keys and screws are also relatively modern.

Special screwdriver, perhaps.

Perhaps... That might work for rich people, but I also have to consider the not-so-rich.

Marriages involving women are expected to be usually permanent, though marriages between men and lilim are more likely to end in divorce.

Pretty much practical. While lilim fly often, they can also carry an adult passenger, and dropping things would be bad.

A necklace, bracelet or anklet might work, especially considering that marrige would be a modification and extension of what was formerly slavery.

No... Consider that if you superglue something to yourself, it will come off eventually as your skin layers are shed.

Besides, men and women don't have wings.

The wings are fully functional (with innate magical assistance).

A wedding ring is something that stays on all the time, this needs to be similar. Only lilim have talons, and teeth are seen only if you smile... and I wouldn't trust early dentistry.

Far too easily removed.

What if a man is bald?

Hair jewellery seems a bit easily removed.

It would need to be something that can stay on all the time, and would work for men, women or lilim.

So, does anyone have suggestions for non-finger-ring marriage jewellery?

Lilim are effectively women with batlike wings and taloned feet like a bird's, and they have personalities more like a man's than a woman's. Marriage is a bit less common than it is on earth IRL, especially since women usually die young, but a marriage can be between a man and a lilim, a man and a woman or a lilim and a woman, and poly marriages occasionally occur.

I don't want the Ruquelians wearing rings, because the lilim left Earth well before the Egyptians began to use rings.

I'm considering what jewellery the people on Ruquelis might wear to show that they are married. It's a bit subjective for the main site. On Ruquelis, there are men, women and lilim. When people arrived on Ruquelis, the lilim were in charge, all the men were slaves and there were no women, but due to the biological peculiarities of lilim, they give birth to 1/4 women, 1/4 lilim and 1/4 men, with 1/4 of pregnancies miscarrying very early.

@Dmyt Consider worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/a/260085/75. Is gravity involved? If so, compress matter to an artificial black hole, then reverse its gravity so that the temporary black hole evaporates. Instant total matter-to-energy conversion.

@Mary @Dmyt I'd thought of having the sessile organism be one gender, and the other gender being a migratory fish that the sessile gender catches and eats in order to reproduce, releasing a bunch of eggs and sperm in the process, which fertilise to become plankton. The motile gender grows and goes on a migration while new members of the sessile gender settle down and grow.

So the women who were dosed with hialutabu, killed 'painfully' and eaten are reincarnated (thanks to reincarnation anchors that work as in worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/q/215307/75 and worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/q/233825/75) get to come back in their next life (and may or may not be a woman again) and say how good it was, thus perpetuating the practise.

In a way, I've drawn from real-world history for Ruquelis. The Toltecs, Olmecs, Maya and Aztecs and other central american tribes had religious human sacrifice, and the Spanish who conquered them wrote that some would-be sacrifices whom they rescued demanded to be taken back to be sacrificed. Consider en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice_in_Maya_culture

However, hialutabu has the effect that it cross-wires pain sensations to the pleasure centre, so no matter how unpleasant or harmful, users of hialutabu experience all pain or discomfort sensations as pleasurable. Hence its addictiveness, even across incarnations.

@Dmyt Ideas are free... just make up your own name and rules for how it works and you won't be plagiarising anything.

@Toph The hialutabu-producing organism would have to have a restricted range. Since they can be kept in captivity for long periods, they can be harvested when necessary, and then milked in a lab.

Lilim used to breed true and women became extinct long ago, but there was magical interference to bring back women for social reasons, and that change started the current imbalanced genders problem.

@Toph Answers to worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/233745/… show that lilim can survive if they're the apex gender. However, the lilim on Ruquelis didn't read that study, and cull women. They originally came from Earth roughly 10,000 to 6,000BC, and lilim did become extinct on Earth.

@Dmyt That's a good idea... I had the idea that the sessile organism that produces hialutabu is only one sex of the species, and the other sex is something completely different that hasn't been recognised.

So, @Toph an insect which reproduces in large numbers, even if it can't or won't reproduce in the lab, isn't vulnerable enough.

So, for the production of hialutabu to be able to be stopped in the story by a small group of spies, the species that produces it has to be vulnerable in some way.

In some contries on Ruquelis, women are considered to be meat animals. They grow up and are educated for the benefit of their next incarnation, and are then cooked (often alive, with a dose of hialutabu) and eaten. There are people who want to stop the cannibalism and murder, and halting the production of hialutabu is one step.

So... the lilim have set up institutionalised murder of women on Ruquelis. They justify this to themselves because people reincarnate, and hialutabu makes death pleasant - addictively so. Reincarnated people can remember their previous incarnation's death and want to repeat it.

@Idan It was closed because the question needs a lot more details, and even then, it would be hard to answer.

There are so many variables that this seems impossible to answer. Even if the environment was exactly the same every day, a forager would learn where the things they wanted were, and gather them more quickly with experience. Other than that... it's the same sort of question as, 'How long is a piece of string?'

Too short for an answer, and fails criterion #2: Shotgun.

@gaazkam It seems that you will need to edit your question to show how an answer will affect your worldbuilding in order to address the criticism that this is a request for analysis of third-party worlds.

@sphennings This is about a specific worldbuilding problem: biological immortality and its effects upon a humanoid race/species.

@Seallussus Say what you like, when compared to other animals such as deer, humans have delayed maturity. How much it is delayed is a matter of debate that we don't need to get into, only that it is delayed somewhat.

@Seallussus The human brain is not mature until the age of 21-22, physical growth or legal age of maturity notwithstanding.