Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Krazer

00:55

@LoganM have you seen the first part of the Oreimo x Railgun light novel crossover?

Logan M

@Krazer I knew about it, but I haven't read it yet. Is it out?

Krazer

@LoganM ch.nicovideo.jp/dengeki-bunko/blomaga/ar250299

Translation of part 1: pastebin.com/WM41BBKA

Logan M

@Krazer Yeah I found that right after I asked you. I want to read it, but my students have an exam tomorrow and I keep getting emails every 10 minutes so it'll have to wait till tomorrow.

Krazer

@LoganM carry on then, but know that it's not too long. So if you want to take a break...

Madara Uchiha

01:22

Evening

Well, more like "Night"

I see someone did some room cleanup :D

Krazer

01:37

I used some white magic to revive some of the more useful ones.

Eric

01:59

For @LoganM:

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Madara Uchiha

@Eric Is it supposed to be anything other than a 1x1 nothing?

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Yup.

Madara Uchiha

Because I don't see it :X

Probably this accursed protected WiFi

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Prob. It is imgur'd, so.. :\

Logan M

02:23

@Eric This guy knows what he's talking about.

Krazer

02:49

@Eric Do you know who that is?

Eric

@Krazer Do tell!

Krazer

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@MadaraUchiha -sama, do you see this?

Madara Uchiha

03:04

Yah

But I'm off :D

Krazer

＿|￣|○

Eric

03:29

This is the best answer I've seen on SO in a while:

Sorry, that image got messed up. Sec.

There we go.

Logan M

@Eric I don't get it.

Eric

@LoganM Yeah, you do have to know a bit of programming to do it.

Basically, red += 20 adds 20 to red, which is exactly what the OP wanted (his code had another bug).

Instead, this guy adds eval(), which does not do anything like that, and which is a very bad thing to use in real code.

Logan M

@Eric I know plenty of programming, just not what "eval" means.

Eric

@LoganM It basically evaluates a string into an expression. eval("7 * (5 - 1)") == 28

It can handle function calls as well, I think.

Logan M

@Eric Oh okay that's what I thought, but the thing inside isn't in quotes so I don't see how it's a string.

Eric

03:34

Exactly, the guy doesn't even know how to use it.

Logan M

I was thinking maybe it would get typecast to a string, but just a string representing a number isn't a valid command in most languages I know (at least, not one that does anything useful). That's why I was doubting whether I was properly interpreting what "eval" does. If he's just wrong, then that makes a lot more sense.

Eric

03:53

Yeah, he's just blatantly wrong. I just love the double whammy of being wrong and going about it in a terrible way. Usually unsatisfactory answers only satisfy one of those things.

Krazer

@Eric eval isn't always bad.... there are times where it's perfectly appropriate.

Logan M

@Eric If you want to see answers that are incorrect in many ways, I recommend grading for any introductory physics class. Some of the things they right read more like Zalgo text than anything approaching physics.

Eric

@LoganM That sounds like some comments I get back on assignments.

But honestly, I'd be scared of marking any introductory-level course.

Krazer

@Eric I took an intro class once... it caused me to unlearn things I already knew

Eric

04:18

@Krazer I find it fun to take the classes and see how dumb the practices are.

Krazer

@Eric I find it fun to point out the flaws nicely, but the professors just think I'm snooty

Eric

@Krazer That's when you start speaking in another language, perhaps two. And also have a projector handy so you can show them whose code is better.

Logan M

@Krazer I think any professor who is actually good at what they do should appreciate if you point out a real flaw.

Krazer

@LoganM but those are rare

Logan M

In any case, my biggest mistake in college was taking introduction to programming (the only intro class I took), despite already knowing how to program. The only thing I learned the whole semester was Java syntax, which I promptly forgot at the end of the semester.

Eric

04:22

Conversely, my biggest mistakes were Calculus I and Physics I.

They just retaught high school stuff.

I literally went to one calculus class and passed both the midterm and final with an A-, quizzes all with A+.

Physics was just silly, because it was all kinematics which is part of grade 10 curriculum.

Logan M

@Krazer I don't think so. Maybe they are rare in CS, but in every math or physics class I've taken the professor appreciated pointing out mistakes.

The semester after I took the intro programming class, I was able to get into a senior-level theoretical computer science class, which was better, but still too basic. That's when I got bored with CS and decided not to take any more classes in it.

Eric

Found this in Gaming.SE chat, thought it was quite accurate:

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Logan M

@Eric I like how that guy has more gold badges than silver or bronze. That seems rather difficult.

Eric

@LoganM Yeah, that was probably an oversight. Especially since most gold badges are the 3rd level of an accomplishment that is preceded by bronze and silver.

Logan M

@Eric I think it's a joke, though I'm not sure exactly what the joke is.

Also, that careers ad is hilarious. We should make community ads like that for this site.

Krazer

04:36

@Eric xD

Eric

04:54

@LoganM The joke is written at the top, actually. It's "How almost every Stack Overflow question looks to me." And it's remarkably accurate in the more common questions.

Krazer

xD!

Eric

The most amusing part to me is that the guy with 34 million points has less bronze and silver badges than Jon Skeet.

Krazer

05:07

@Eric JonSkeet is the exception and the rule.

Eric

@Krazer Jon Skeet is the alpha and the omega. The beginning and the end. He is all, and he is one. And he is the universe.

Jon Skeet can slam a revolving door.

Krazer

@Eric JonSkeet is anywhere and everywhere

Eric

@Krazer Jon Skeet is all things and lives within us all.

Krazer

@Eric JonSkeet is all the wisdom of the world

Sakamoto

06:30

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Q: Is there any other manga artist/s whose style is like CLAMP's?

Is there any other manga artist/s (famous or not-so-famous) who caters anime or manga like CLAMP's style? I'm talking about the cross-over style or the re-using of anime characters from one of their manga creations to another and the diverging of their stories. CLAMP is known for that style and ...

Madara Uchiha

10:23

@Eric I am the being you people call "The World", and "The Universe", and "God", and "Truth", and "All", and "One", and "Jon", and "Skeet", and I am also, "Yourself"

MrPineapple

deep

Madara Uchiha

@MrPineapple Taken from FMA:B, It's the line of Truth.

MrPineapple

ah :D

Madara Uchiha

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MrPineapple

so, what's the dealio if a question has a spoiler in the title?

because, it might be essential to the question, but it also could be a large spoiler

Madara Uchiha

10:26

@MrPineapple If it's possible to edit the title to not have spoilers in it

MrPineapple

I'll give you an example.. 1 sec

Madara Uchiha

"How did X survive this attack?" => "How could anyone survive this attack?"

MrPineapple

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Q: Is Kafuka Fuura even in the class?

The whole question is spoilerish, so hover your cursor to see it:

sayonara-zetsubou-sensei

>_> i should have checked that it was okay to post that >_>

Madara Uchiha

@MrPineapple I don't watch it, it's okay

MrPineapple

phew :p

Madara Uchiha

10:28

So what's wrong with it?

MrPineapple

but yeah, came across this question when I was going back through the unanswered ones.

Well, the question is giving away that Kafuka Fuura isn't an actual student

Madara Uchiha

The consensus was that if it's possible to edit the title so that it doesn't contain spoiler, do so.

MrPineapple

and that's revealed in at least the 3rd season of the anime, dunno about the manga

Madara Uchiha

If not, leave it alone.

MrPineapple

so, in a situation like this, can't really do anything then?

Madara Uchiha

10:30

It's not worth sacrificing the clarity of the question just to try and avoid spoilers

MrPineapple

alright ^^

Mysticial

13:45

I came across a Heracross while walking through the Jungle the other day:

in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 8 mins ago, by Mysticial

Krazer

14:00

@Mysticial is it shiny?

Krazer

15:03

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Logan M

@Eric I understood that. I meant specifically that the badge count was somehow part of the joke. I do not understand that part.

Krazer

15:21

@LoganM it's possible for just answers if you focus on getting Populist and Reversal badges (which happens in the example shown)

Logan M

@Krazer Nope. Populist and Reversal both require it to count as a Nice Answer. I suppose you could get both of them together, but that would still only allow a maximum ratio of 2 gold:1 bronze. It is possible if you manage to get populist or reversal, and before the Nice Answer script runs you garner a lot of downvotes (or cancelled upvotes) but that's an extremely rare situation.

Krazer

only Publicist would make sense if he doesn't ask questions D:

Logan M

@Krazer Publicist requires Announcer and Booster.

I checked pretty thoroughly. There aren't any gold badges one can get without earning at least one silver or bronze badge. If you get Populist and Reversal together it's possible to get a 2:1 ratio, but to go past that, you have to exploit edge cases (e.g. getting 11+ upvotes and all of them negated with timing such that you can get a Reversal or Populist w/o Nice Answer).

If the different scripts see deleted questions differently that might provide an alternate way to do it, though it's still an edge case.

Interestingly, it may be possible on Area51 with founder badges. I've seen plenty of Area51 users who had the same number of gold and silver badges.

Eric

15:39

@LoganM Oh, me neither.

It's been over a month, where is Sakamoto ch. 6? D:

Logan M

@Eric In volume 2

@Krazer If you're going to unfreeze the rooms, you need to post in them afterwords or else they get frozen again in a matter of hours.

Eric

15:54

@LoganM Can you post stats sometime today or this weekend?

Logan M

@Eric Okay. I'll try to do it today.

Incidentally, I finally finished getting rid of the dupes from my Miki pictures folder about 10 minutes ago. Here's the stats for that (which are much more interesting). It's actually a bit smaller than I expected (some 7k of the pics were duplicates).

Krazer

16:15

@Eric you can read up to 8 in chinese...

iKlsR

17:16

@Eric that is inaccurate, that answer wouldn't have been accepted.. new users don't accept answers.. haha

Logan M

17:28

@Eric Stats

JNat

17:40

what image could I possibly use for this Flavor?!?

Logan M

When @Eric shows back up he's going to have tons of messages in his inbox.

@JNat Maybe something from Gintama or Hayate no Gotoku. I'll think more about it later.

JNat

@LoganM and do you have some image that could be used for the unanswered questions announcement on FB?

Logan M

@JNat Nope. Can you include a picture and simultaneously link to a different page anyway, though? I'd think linking to anime.stackexchange.com/unanswered would be rather important.

JNat

@LoganM yeah, I'm already doing that :)

@LoganM what do you think about this one deluscar.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/ichigo-suprised.jpg ?

Logan M

I'm have no idea what's a good picture to use, then. I'd just pick a cute Miki picture, but that's not really related to unanswered questions at all.

@JNat works

JNat

17:54

@LoganM don't you have any where she looks confused or something like that?

IDK

Logan M

@JNat None which I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure I have some, but I don't have an easy way to find them.

JNat

well, I'll use that other one for now. If you find one that's better, let me know

Logan M

@JNat I have some others in mind, but they're really not any better or worse than that one.

JNat

if you have them there, gimme

if you don't never mind

Krazer

@JNat I got one lemme go find it

JNat

18:03

@Krazer nice

Logan M

I'd have to go get my external HD to screencap them.

JNat

also, for next week's Flavor Day if you have anything in mind

the more the merrier

Krazer

JNat

@Krazer better, much better

Logan M

@Krazer Yay Yuno!

JNat

18:13

@Krazer anything for the flavor day?

Krazer

hmm

I was thinking something like this

JNat

@Krazer ok, Ill use that one

Krazer

@JNat or the Shin-chan x Advance on Titan parody I posted earlier

JNat

@Krazer I had thought about that one too

Krazer

24 hours ago, by Krazer

iKlsR

18:20

hmm

JNat

@Krazer hmm, something more horizontal would be better

but I'll use that one, at least for now

if someone finds a better one, let me know

Krazer

something like this?

JNat

@Krazer yes, something like that

Krazer

how about this one?

JNat

it looks nice, although I don't know it XD

Krazer

18:25

what's missing?

JNat

@Krazer nothing :)

Krazer

@JNat it's Gurren Lagann x Lucky Star

JNat

@Krazer oic

well, I used that one

iKlsR

JNat

nice XD

Krazer

18:32

iKlsR

Holy mother ..

JNat

@Krazer ok, maybe I'll go with that one instead!

iKlsR

IPPO!

Logan M

Krazer

@JNat bigger one here:

there we go

iKlsR

18:37

useless but nice

Krazer

@iKlsR I raise you

iKlsR

T__T

@Krazer

Logan M

@iKlsR Not wide enough

iKlsR

hmm

Logan M

You should be at least this wide:

iKlsR

18:44

I tried ._.

Logan M

iKlsR

XD

JNat

@LoganM that's a nice pic XD

Logan M

If we are just going for pics with lots of characters in them, here's one:

JNat

19:02

@Krazer Donyatsu only has 11 chapters?

Krazer

@JNat scanlated in english, yes

JNat

@Krazer what about raw?

and shouldn't the anime be out? I cannot find it

Krazer

@JNat the anime? the manga has at least 2 volumes

JNat

@Krazer the anime myanimelist.net/anime/18755/Donyatsu

Krazer

@JNat donyatsu.jp

It's film shorts so it's going to be in theaters not tv

JNat

19:13

@Krazer I just saw that, yeah

bummer

where can I (at least try to) read it in Japanese?

Krazer

@JNat purchase the tomes off amazon??

iKlsR

I'm trying to get this damn stackexchange api to work.. if I can I will have some lovely graphs

Krazer

field trip to japan?

JNat

@Krazer have you read it?

@Krazer and I meant online :P

Krazer

19:28

@JNat only the english ones

Logan M

19:39

@JNat Should the image compression post be featured? It seems more like faq material.

In any case, it's certainly good advice, and we want people to see it, so making it featured is probably fine, but I also think it would be helpful if faq had more questions and answers.

JNat

yes, you're right

Reuben Renquist

Has anyone seen Kiss X Sis?

Logan M

@ReubenRenquist Which one?

Reuben Renquist

The show and ova

And I have to say it was really good

Especially the Christmas karaoke one

Logan M

19:54

I've seen some of the OVA but not the show. I agree that it's good.

Reuben Renquist

Or the one that translates, My Little Sister Can't be This Cute

Logan M

I think a lot of people here watch Oreimo.

Reuben Renquist

I saw some of the first episode of the 2nd season

Loved it

Or 'My Little Sister's among them!'

Logan M

I'm waiting for the Blurays of that one before I watch it. The manga is really good though.

Reuben Renquist

Curious, does anyone by the dvds to watch, or have a site, or some other to get the episodes?

buy*

Logan M

20:10

I typically buy the series which I care about, but for everything else I torrent it.

iKlsR

lulz

Reuben Renquist

;)

One anime I enjoyed to is lucky star

oh and Death Note is one of my favourite (when you forget what happens)

Sakamoto

21:47

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Q: What has been added and/or changed in the 2 Gurren Lagann movies compared to TV series?

From what I heard, the 2 Gurren Lagann movies are shortened version of the TV series. Is there anything new added or modified in the movies, or is it just a summary of the TV series? If there is any addition or modification, would you please list them out? I am aware that the content is compress...

gurren-lagann

Eric

22:11

Holy spam.

JNat

@Eric what spam?

Eric

@JNat Like 7 messages in my inbox.

JNat

@Eric ah, yeah

5 hours ago, by Logan M

When @Eric shows back up he's going to have tons of messages in his inbox.

Eric

@JNat Yup, got that one too.

Mysticial

23:55

@Eric lol nice :)

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