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00:03
Gave up on the pun. All attempts were too lame.
Oh cool I just got Fanatic.
3
I've got 24 days to go. :(
It'd be 16, but some bs didn't register me online that day.
i got 87 xD
If I didn't go on vacation, I'd have it. :(
Rather amusingly, I earned Yearling on Math at almost the exact same time.
lol
I don't get Yearling on SO until June.
I'm still a newbie. :D
00:09
Oh wow, you're "younger" than me.
I've always considered myself as one of the newer people on SO.
It's my second yearling badge over there. I didn't know you could get more than one of them..
@Mysticial Yup. It's the only way I can justify not having 88k rep.
Also yesterday (UTC) we finally got 75 avid users (though it seems like 76 is actually needed for "Okay", and 10 2k users.
@LoganM Quick! Upvotes!
Kidding. :P
I've actually upvoted literally every post that was correct and by a user near 200, even ones I wouldn't normally look at like Naruto.
00:15
Sadly, the closest guy to 200 hasn't been on in 12 days.
@Eric The closest guy to 200 in my book is actually this guy. All he needs is 1 upvote and then to hit the association bonus anywhere. Though that's closest only in terms of the amount of effort needed on this site.
@LoganM No. You need 200 to get the association bonus.
Yeah, he still needs the assoc bonus by getting (at minimum) 52 rep on SO.
@Mysticial Yes, I know. But he seems to use SO fairly regularly, so he'd get that rep even if he never posted here again.
@LoganM He's not actually that active on SO.
00:22
@Eric I'm measuring activity in terms of frequency of visits. He visits nearly every day.
Ah.
Besides, as we already stated, association bonuses are easy enough to exploit if necessary.
Does anyone have any idea of good anime to seed with? I have some seeding questions but some are pretty obscure. And until I read Attack on Titan I can't ask a lot about it, either.
@Eric Ask obscure stuff. It's hard to predict what will generate traffic. Or you could look at MAL entries sorted by popularity: myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=bypopularity
Interesting. FMA is 5th, and FMAB is 8th. Yet we don't have a huge collection of FMA questions in the same way as, say, Naruto or Bleach.
Then again, we have 3x as many Naruto as Bleach.
00:29
Naruto and Bleach are underrepresented on MAL. Lots of their fans don't watch anything else, and thus have no need for MAL accounts.
I only have an account at MAL because @Mysticial made me.
Today is our lowest Q/D since 2/20, and tied for our lowest overall since I started collecting statistics.
Shit... 4.0...
Not good. Not good at all.
I don't think there's anything we can do about it. Most of our top users are busy right now. I thought I'd have time during spring break, but I still have lots of work to do.
@LoganM Lots as in 5 days worth? Or lots as in 2 days worth?
00:35
Maybe during the summer will be better for those of us who are in school.
I hope so. I won't be getting much time during the summer.
Mysticial probably won't either.
@Eric It's not really that simple. I'm trying to finish up a paper, and it depends on how many changes my advisor wants.
Ah, I see.
Welp... I guess we need Krazer and JNat to save the day.
It could be month's worth of work or it could be finished tomorrow.
I'm going to go get dinner. Be back in a little while.
See you.
01:26
Back
Also I just checked. We had 5 questions on 3/6, so if we want our Q/D not to drop any further today we need at least 5 questions today.
OTOH I agree with what Robert said when he said not to focus on the stats themselves too much, but on what they represent. We shouldn't be asking questions just to get the stats higher, we should be asking them to generate more content.
@LoganM That's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to pick well-known series with questions that will be Googled, and maybe lead to more questions.
I'm concerned about the stats, but not for stats' sake. For the sake of what the declining number means.
The trouble for me is that I want to ask lots of questions like the Paca Plus one, but about much longer games with no translation. It's extremely likely no one here will have played them, and they're unlikely to be as easy as that one to answer. If I throw out too many, it'll just wreck the stats in a different way.
I have to try to find stuff that's mainstream enough to be viable here with only a couple dozen regular users. Which means that VNs, LNs, and drama CDs are almost totally out of the picture.
01:52
I'd take a challenge if it's in English. I can't find Japanese answers on the web, sadly.
The English translation helped Paca Plus, to be honest.
And not in the conventional way.
There's probably something I can ask about G-senjou no Maoh or Ever17 or something like that, which have English translations and are very good. I'll see what I can come up with.
Awesome. And if all else fails.. Death Note. :P
@Eric G-senjou no Maoh is pretty similar to Death Note in a lot of ways, but it's ultimately a much better story. If they made an anime of it I think it would have a good chance at being the top show of the year.
It does look pretty good, actually. Though I haven't seen DN through, so, I can't speak on that.
 
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03:08
@LoganM Changed the Henneko tag?
@Eric See the edit on the Meta post.
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A: How should we tag 'Hentai Ōji to Warawanai Neko.'?

Logan MAfter thinking about it overnight, I'm going to suggest hentai-prince-stony-cat, which at 23 characters, just barely fits. Advantages: Fairly unambiguous. Catches all the important English keywords for SEO (even "hentai" though it will still be filtered if the person has safesearch enabled). C...

@LoganM To be fair, it hadn't shown up on the meta homepage yet. :P
Alright, I'm good with that change.
@Eric The tag edit still hasn't shown up on the main page for me yet ;P
Ah, that did for me. I happened upon it as soon as it went active.
Basically, I saw 5 English language articles today from different sources, and all of them were using HenNeko, so it seems like that's what they're going with for the anime.
03:14
As long as it's widely used, I'm fine with it. And the synonyms are good, too, since I suspect people will be typing in "hentai" to find it.
And this gives us the added SEO bonus of avoiding said word.
@Eric It's only an SEO bonus if people actually search for "henneko". Using "hentai" isn't going to hurt us in terms of search engine traffic. It just doesn't get factored in at all.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAATSSSSSSS UP
:)
@Washu Hey
What's going on?
@LoganM Actually, there's a good way to tell if people search for that. Google Trends.
@LoganM eating pizza and trying to figure out which Get Backers episodes are not fillers....
03:17
Grr. Or maybe it's going to be a jerk to me like always.
I've never been successful at getting Google trends to validate my opinions, so I've become a bit suspicious about its accuracy.
Well, its biggest issue is not showing things below a certain volume.
@Washu That's probably a reasonable question for the main site.
Compare:
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=the%20hentai%20prince%20and%20the%20stony%20cat&cmpt=q
and
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=henneko&cmpt=q
Like, wtf?
That's utterly useless.
03:20
Indeed.
Though.
"henneko" gets 38,700 results. "the hentai prince and the stony cat" gets 287,000. (Matching whole phrase.)
This is all hearsay, though. What matters is what's in the fan community.
BTW I got onto the Reverse Engineering private beta.
Nice. Now you can take it down from the inside.
9 questions per day, 3.4 answer ratio. I'm jelly.
That's the goal. Though I have to admit there's exactly 1 question I understand the title of.
lol
... Oh, shit. We're down to 3.9.
"When is applying reverse engineering techniques acceptable?"
03:24
@LoganM What are some others?
@Eric I've got some mediocre deleted questions which I'll add to keep us above 4.0 for now.
I'll find something to ask as well.
@LoganM Do you think "What are the names of all the Angels in Neon Genesis Evangelion?" is a good question? I mean, it's dead simple, unless I ask people to name the ones in things like the card game and such as well.
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Q: Which GetBackers episodes are filler?

WashuI'm watching GetBackers and after the fight against Makubex in Infinity Fortress i only find fillers and story with no plot-related history. Which ones are the fillers and which correspond to the manga?

It was one of the questions in the proposal, I just hesitate to ask it.
@Eric It's very meh-worthy, but I think it's on topic and potentially allowable. That's the sort of thing that's better if you answer it yourself.
03:29
Sure. That's no problem. I'll save it for later, then, I'd rather ask something that will draw answers.
The other RE questions right now are:
Getting the Java source code for a .jar wrapped in an .exe
Reverse engineering a Solaris driver
What is the best sandbox for dissecting a harmful binary?
What hints in machine code can point me to the compiler which was used to generate it?
How are x86 CPU instructions encoded?
How is a structure located within a disassembled program?
Is there a good reference for COM object signatures?
What is the current state of the art for platform modeling?
I underestimated my own abilities. I also understand the machine code one, at least in principle.
I could potentially answer 4 of those. Not too shabby, but I bet many people there are more qualified to answer them.
I was sort of hoping there would be more than just software. But given that it is SE, I was expecting it to be very software-centric, and I was correct about that.
I'm going to wait on asking all my mediocre questions since they're literally failed attempts at tumbleweed because someone commented on them the first time. At best they're mostly going to be unanswered for several months. If our Q/D is still below 4 at around 2200 UTC then I'll ask them.
I shall upvote all ye questions so ye may not receive Tumbleweed! :P
@Eric I just have to post >40 questions per day so that you can't upvote all of them.
03:40
Tch. That's cheating!
@Eric If I can actually manage that for a whole week, I think I deserve more than just one tumbleweed badge.
If you can literally ask 41 questions a day for one week, that would be astounding.
I would buy you drinks.
@Eric If I'm only asking 41 questions per day, you could upvote all of them before any of them reached 1 week old, at least if I only continued for a week. I'd need to continue that for about 40 days. To do it in one week, I'd need to ask 281 questions all in one day.
.... Geez.
Yeah, go do that, please.
We'd have more than 20 q/d.
For two weeks, anyway.
BTW that Ponyo question is a bit problematic. It's probably okay, but I worry it might draw answers from people who don't really know the answer.
03:46
@LoganM It's okay. I do know the answer, and I'm more than ready to downvote people just guessing at it. I'm fairly sure that we have a decent group of people who won't pretend to be painters.
@Eric If I'm going to do it, it'll take a while to prepare. 281 questions isn't something I can generate in 24 hours, or even 24 days.
TBH, I'd rather see you do it over time. Filling us up for two weeks won't help in the long run.
I'm not doing it for the site. I'm doing it to get a tumbleweed badge.
I'd make sure all of the questions are mediocre enough to be deserving of tumbleweed.
If you want Tumbleweed, ask a subpar but complicated question in a tag with only a few questions.
Or a very, very long question about a series no one knows.
No one will bother to read it to see if it's "good", most likely.
@Eric That's what my previous attempts were. All 3 of them generated comments.
03:49
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. That's bogus.
I've gotta head off. 'Night.
See you tomorrow.
Tumbleweed, Tenacious, and Unsung Hero... badges that I'll never get.
lol
@Eric night
And given my answering habits, I doubt I'll ever get Reversal on SO either...
Tenacious and Unsung Hero aren't badges I really want. Tumbleweed I mostly want since it's a pretty silly badge IMO.
Reversal is extremely unlikely to happen on this site anytime soon. The only questions that make it to -5 are the ones which have no hope of ever generating good answers.
04:27
New closed beta site: Digital Protection. They never made it out of private beta.
With their stats, IMO it was a good decision. Having 0 users with 200 rep at 20 days is kind of ridiculous, and they didn't generate anywhere near enough questions. I don't think there was any way to make the site viable.
 
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15:29
wow we're seeing a sharp increase in traffic this week
i have another 2 questions about this anime... but i don't know if too many people watch it
@Krazer that's great :D
15:52
@Krazer thanks for the edit :)
16:24
@Krazer That's awesome! That bodes well for summer; if the increase is as a result of Spring Break, then we should see increases around other holidays as well.
16:50
@Eric check this one
I seriously don't know why
Do you think you can edit the grammar errors?
17:18
I'm just going to leave this CatOverFlow
@Washu this should be SO chatroom theme
@Krazer you mean the cats?
a chat room where you discuss various cat programming stuff or programming related to cats
I found a G+ post about someone saying that Squirtle would taste like watermelon. I just had to take the opportunity to link him to the Pokémon-eating question.
@Eric nice!
17:24
@Krazer You should learn to program in LOLCAT. :D
@Eric i'm learning LOLCAT :D
@JNat That question sure is coming in handy. :)
@Washu Good!
HAI
CAN HAS STDIO?
VISIBLE "HAI WORLD!"
KTHXBYE
love the KTHXBYE
@Krazer Bueno.
17:29
@Eric I remember that from here: scratch.mit.edu/projects/Bwiisfat/2063074
> I believe that Squirtels will taste like watermelon, very runny, and would go well with Bulbasaur salad with Charizard hot sauce.
does anyone know if FB posts support HTML?
@Krazer Oh, that's a different one. This one also said that Pikachu would taste like pineapple.
@JNat I doubt it.
@Eric bah
What HTML were you looking to use?
I just wanted to make it look good with <a href="URL">this text is a link</a>
instead of a two-line link
in the middle of text
17:34
There might be a way to do that... Give me a minute.
@JNat only the Facebook Notes editor is WYSIWYG
@Krazer that's what I gathered from a quick search too
I reckon'd so
Yeah, no luck. I am on my phone so it's harder to do good searching. But nothing useful turned up for "Facebook anchor link".
@Eric thanks, never mind
17:39
No worries. I have nothing else to do on my train ride. XD
@Eric take some pictures~
... Sure! Lol
Sadly I can't post them to chat from here. :(
we can wait
did you bring anything else to pass your time?
Ohh they closed the proposal for world domination :(
Good. I know the suspense is killing you.
@Washu :(
@Krazer I have a laptop but no Internet with it. And a Spanish textbook.
17:44
@Washu world domination scheme should be more subtle
@Krazer yeah :/
@Krazer can you check if my grammar is ok in this question?
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Q: Why does Shaoran looked like he liked Yukito a lot?

WashuIn Sakura Card Captor when Shaoran meets Yukito he starts to feel embarrased or even blushed by his presence. I always though he liked Sakura but when these scenes happened i was kinda confused.

Wow hot girl in Java Room
@Washu how do you know the goods are reals?
@Washu if that makes her real, then Mysticial really is Asuna Yuuki :p
xD
Let me dream about it :P
17:54
@MadaraUchiha -sama, gratz on Fanatic!
@MadaraUchiha yes, congrats!
Thanks :)
@MadaraUchiha Congratz!
@MadaraUchiha My Lord why didn't you kill Hashirama when you were little?
@Washu I was foolish. I should've killed him on the spot.
@MadaraUchiha of course my lord, but i know you will win the war so no worries
18:18
@Krazer I present to you Exciting Train Riding, featuring such exciting thrills as "Newspaper" and "Construction".
@Eric where are you going?
I'm at home now. Those are from my commute today.
@Eric I see you had some fun
pretty exciting ride no?
@JNat Indeed. The newspaper was quite accommodating, too.
18:34
@Eric I recognize that Metro
@Krazer You do? Been to Canada? lol
@Eric Canada is really cool!
most of the ppl are very friendly
compared to americans
Canada is pretty awesome. Except the weather.
Blergh. Today is nice, but it's a rarity.
In winter/spring, anyway.
@Eric I'll take the ppl there over the weather any day~
lol :)
So that's why you like me so much. :D
18:36
I can't help that Canadians are so likable
Except Justin Bieber.
@Eric he was alright until they infected him with america
@Krazer That's no excuse.
@Eric I know america is a bad excuse
lol
Whereabouts do you live?
18:41
You know where the colonial capital of America was?
the suburbs of that area
Ah, okay. Is it nice?
weather and calamity-wise, yes
ppl wise, not so much
Aw :(
@Krazer New Amsterdam?
You're welcome in my country anytime!
18:44
@JNat I should have mentioned during the Revolutionary War
@Eric If I manage to untangle myself, it will be amongst of the first things I do
Yay!
Is it just me, or are a log of the imgur images are not loading in the gif room?
Maybe my connection just sucks.
@Krazer that would be what then? The land of cheesesteaks?
nvm... they're loading... very slowly...
@JNat yes
18:49
@Krazer lol
@Mysticial your browser hasn't crashed yet! the gifs aren't big enough
bbl
19:07
Gentlemen, I present to you... the Beetlejuice Rollercoast in Minecraft
19:51
deviously simple phishing exploit with the anchor tag
i need some help with java :/
anyone knows?
Ask away.
@Krazer I clicked there with the scroll, which opens in a new tab, and it sent me to the right place
@JNat are you on fire fox?
@Krazer yes
19:59
@Eric write a program whose output is the program itself
try another browser
@Krazer when I click with Left mouse button it does not lead me there
I see
@Krazer Easy enough in PHP :P
@Krazer With PHP: <?php echo file_get_contents(__FILE__); ?>... other languages are slightly less trivial, but, oh well. :P
@Eric With PHP: "Hello World"
(no <?php ?> tags, no PHP parsing)
20:06
@MadaraUchiha Oh, pfft. That's cheating, 'cuz you're basically using HTML. lol
@Eric It's still a PHP file
@MadaraUchiha Still cheating!
how many quines can you do?
@Krazer I'd have to look up the code for most languages' method to get the current file. I don't know Python's, Java's, or C++'s (if they all even have one). Unless I'm allowed to determine where the file executes from and its filename.
the shortest and simplest has to be in HQ9+
20:20
@Krazer What is it? quine();?
20:46
@Eric q
... lol
I just looked up the spec.
My favorite is 9.
the whole point of it is 9 lol
@Krazer And H.
Hey
Reading in the source file is clearly a cheating way to write a quine.
so I guess the proper way of doing it would be to process its own output?
20:54
The proper way to do it is to embed its own source in it.
a program can process data more than once
like: function c($b) { return "<"."?\n$b?".">\n$b"; } ob_start("c"); ?
wonder what I did with the C++ one I wrote a while back. Actually, more accurately, with the C++ program that generates C++ programs that are quines.
I'd be curious to learn more
They're not that magical. Take a program that prints out a string — fairly trivial, <?php echo $str ?> if I remember PHP correctly
Now, add in code to first write out $str=... to set $str
And that's it.
<?php
echo '$str = hex2bin("' . bin2hex($str) . '");';
echo $str
?>
that ought to basically do it
I don't have a php interpreter on this machine to actually do it, though :-P
@derobert ideone.com/xNkknW Have at it, lol.
21:10
Well, I have a Perl one here, so here is a perl quine:
$str = "print\ \"\\\$str\ \=\ \\\"\\Q\$str\\E\\\"\;\\n\"\;\
print\ \$str\;\
";
print "\$str = \"\Q$str\E\";\n";
print $str;
how about this one? ideone.com/7afh3G
@Krazer yep, that appears to work
@derobert I'm not up to par with my perl, but would it be possible to make it shorter using eval?
@Krazer no doubt that can be made much shorter
The point is, a quine doesn't need some trick like locating the program's source code on disk and reading it in, or any special language feature. Wikipedia explains the math, of course :-P
Now that I think about it, we never helped @Washu with his java problem xD
21:19
I'm failing hard
@Krazer He never asked! I offered, lol.
(Strictly speaking, the empty string is a valid perl program. It produces no output. So that'd be the shortest perl quine. But of course, that's an abuse of the rules. A famous one in the IOCCC, actually)
@derobert I thought the same. Actually, it works in many languages. Even Java, if it's in the root of the project.
ECMAScript, too!
(function a(){alert('('+a+')()')})()
@Eric i though "Ask Away" meant ask it away of this place
21:20
@Eric I thought java required a main? But its been ages since I worked with Java.
@Washu ... Oops. No, it means "go ahead and ask".
@derobert Hmm. I think you can get away with it. But I should probably check. It's not like I write empty programs very often.
@Washu now unless we as "Ask away from here"
@derobert Ah, yeah. You're right. spoj: The program compiled successfully, but main class was not found.
Python, for sure, though, allows the empty string as a program.
@Eric Indeed, its not legal in C. But the compiler the IOCCC was using accepted it anyway. So it won abuse of rules.
... Derp.
21:22
@Eric i need more english slang
Eh, I need to stop using it so much. xD
Anyway, what can we help with?
Is there any method to copy information of a jtable to the clipboard?
I have tried this but it is not working
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A: Copying DefaultTableModel data to clipboard

camickrThe default Copy function of JTable will copy selected rows of data to the clipboard. See Action Map Action for an approach that gives you access to this Action. Using the supplied class the code would be: Action copyAction = new ActionMapAction("Copy Table", table, "copy"); JButton copyButton...

Curious: If it's not working, why did you accept the answer?
(As I see one of the answers is accepted.)
... or for that matter, if it doesn't work, why not add a comment asking for clarification?
@Washu What exactly is "not working?"
21:32
@Eric The one i accepted worked but they asked me to change a few things and it doesn't now... that's why i'm trying the 2nd
@Krazer the clipboard receives nothing
I agree with derobert, a reply on that answer might help you.
(I'm not accustomed to Swing, so I won't be much help.)
Hm ok ._.
22:01
Even by giving bounties to questions
still not enough attention..
@Washu I don't recommend bountying things unless you're sure there is a definitive answer. I'm not sure there is one in the case of the K-On question.
@LoganM as you can see in the last line of the answer is this
Who is that old man doll? Was that doll based from a real person or from another anime or just a random creation from K-ON! itself?
You can answer it is just a random creation
There's also a smaller version of it.
I'm not sure it's the same creature, necessarily. This one has a mustache.
@Washu There is likely no way to find a valid source to support that claim, so even if it's correct it's not an acceptable answer.
._.
22:23
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Not Q/A just fun!

Proposed Q&A site for me and my friends!

Closed before being launched.

Best proposal I've seen. The proposed questions are priceless.
@Eric LOL
Reminds me of this one:
Lol
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Polls

Proposed Q&A site for everyone with an opinon

Closed before being launched.

We need more users in Klingon proposal
@LoganM Very nice, lol. I see the guy that started the "just fun" one also tried to start a "Python" SE for his dad and friends.
22:30
World Domination got closed a couple of days ago ;.;
@LoganM Yup. :(
On the bright side Applied Propaganda is still going strong.
:(
@Washu If you want to bring in more users for the Klingon proposal, we need to advertise on every platform we have available.
Going to C++ to link it..
wish me luck
22:33
We should make community ads to post to Scifi and any other sites that will take them.
gl :P
ok
Hm, how can we ask Scifi to take a look on that? @LoganM
@Washu No, they don't need to do anything.
We post in this thread:
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Q: Community Promotion Ads - 2013

Grace NoteIt's been about a year now, so it is now time for the reboot of the Community Promotion Ads! What are Community Promotion Ads? Community Promotion Ads are community-vetted advertisements that will show up on the main site, in the right sidebar. The purpose of this question is the vetting proces...

@LoganM Then how can we advertise it on their sites?
@LoganM ohhh, i'm terrible at designing
All we need to do is make a 220x250 pixel ad and post in this thread and the corresponding ones for any other launched SE sites which would be appropriate.
22:37
@LoganM We have one in that thread already, though.
Two, actually.
@Washu I am too
@Eric KLU doesn't have any.
Ohhhh. Yes. :P
For all the hype, RE only has 28 questions after about 2 days. Given how quickly they built up support, I was expecting a lot more than that. I think we had around 100 in the first day IIRC.
I FOUND ANOTHER COOL SITE Relationships
@Washu I'm already following that one
I'm intending to drown them with questions about relationships with fictional characters.
22:45
Lol
xd
Speaking of Xd, does anyone know any other instances of this facial expression? I'm pretty sure I've seen it many other times, but the only one that immediately comes to mind is Hachikuji from Bakemonogatari, and I can't seem to find the clip where she does it.
hmmm, that doll in k-on, isn't that the dude from Phoenix?
though Sarutahiko has more hair
(or, maybe that's not the right character name)...
but that nose comes from Tezuka
@LoganM That's an awesome image, lol. But I know I've seen the face elsewhere, though I don't know what it's called or how to search for it.
@Eric This one is from Tonari no Kashiwagi-san, which is one of the funniest manga I read. In this case he was trying to say something in German, but he confused Brust and Wurst, which are pronounced almost identically in Japanese.
... xD Oh, man.
23:15
@Eric Anyway if you find any other examples of it in the next day or so post them here. It doesn't look like I need to ask this question today, so I'll wait until we have a day of low activity. I think 2 examples is enough to establish this as a trope, but no reason not to include more.
@LoganM Gotcha. I'll take a look in some more chibi-style stuff. It might even be in FMA's random chibi excerpts.
23:33
The closest I could find in Bakemonogatari is this. She doesn't have the > wink or the thumbs up but she has the の-style eyes and tongue sticking up. In principle I could get it with the mouth closed also, but I'd have to go screencap the episode to do that.
23:58
The wink is part of it, though.
A rather important part.
To me, the "breasts are really tasty" one has a completely different emotion tied to it than that one.

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